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Our 4-yr old Golden Retriever absolutely loves to ride in the car. It's out
the front door and a bee-line to the car. We have taken her on several road
trips. The longest drive she (and ourselves) have endured is 13 hours. She
always has access to fresh water in the car and drinks plenty while on the
road. We make frequent stops at rest areas for potty time and a short walk.
She has both middle seats of our Honda Odyssey to herself and spends 95% of
the time sitting, looking out the side windows, the other 5% "half sitting"
with her rear on the seat and standing on the floor. She pants virtually
the entire time. The panting stops within 15 - 30 minutes of either being
out of the car, or if she is left in the car while we are in a restaurant
(for example). On the last trip we gave her 25mg of Acepromazine which
"takes her down a notch", but I don't like giving her drugs.

Questions: Is all the panting doing any damage to her health? Should we
skip the doggy drug and just live with the panting on long (all day in the
car) trips?

Thanks in advance

Russ Young (Seattle WA heading to Visalia CA next week with the wife and
dog)

zpl

Some dogs just pant when they get in the car. Sometimes redirecting the
airflow towards them helps, sometimes not. If the dog likes the car, there
is no need to drug her.

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY zpl,

That's BULLSHIT. The dog is PANTING cause he's STRESSED.

HOWEver, we're all real glad to know it doesn't BOTHER YOU none.

NHOWE get the heel HOWETA The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Forum.

The Puppy Wizard. <} ; ~ ) >

(all day in the

the wife and

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY Jokerpit,

No bother, it's The Puppy Wizard's pleasure.


That's OBVIHOWESLY caused by ANXIETY over being locked in
a crate. It's kinda like a cigarette smoker discoverin they only
got
WON smoke left and twelve HOWERS to go before the store opens,
or they got cigarettes and NO MATCHES... THEY PAINIC!!!

Same same same same, for the dog. FEATURE THIS, Jokerpit.
You KNOW according to the "alpha theory" that ALL GOOD THINGS
come from "alpha." HOWE does that make the ALPHA look when the
dog is DENIED ATTENTION, FOOD, WATER, or a RELIEF when
he NEEDS it? That usurps the ALPHA METHOD and teache the
dog Alpha don't give a crap abHOWET his FEELINGS. A mom
dog wouldn't let her pups cry for WON MOMENT withHOWET
goin NUTS trying to get to them.

While that may work, it frequently doesn't, and ALWAYS increases
ANXIETY.
Think of it as havin cigaretts and no matches, or havin matches
and no cigs.
Better yet, think of it as bein a junky with a habit and a fix,
and no cooker to fix
it in. They'd GO NUTS.


Your welcome. See The Puppy Wizard's posts on "crate training JERRYIZED."


The Puppy Wizard has PROVEN all behavior and many DIS-EASES are
caused by STRESS from traditional and "alpha" methods training and
of
curse, withholding of bribes, forced control and inapupriate
confinement
to avoid dealing with "untrainable" and risky behaviors.

MOST dogs in shelters and pHOWENDS are there because of behavior
problems. The irresponsible RESCUE and shelter folks like paulette
"kind
to KILL SHELTERS" and disciple cris and the other MENTAL CASES we
got HEELPIN dogs are DISADVANTAGING dogs and their families by
taking PROBLEM DOGS HOWETA their original HOWESES to find
HOWESES who'll TOLERATE or MANAGE to AVOID the behavior problems.
No less than 15% of them will FAIL in their NEW HOWES and the
original
owners will soon buy another dog as a REPLACEMENT, and HOPE that
LUCK will prevail with their new puppy...

DOG TRAININ AIN'T LUCK, as PROVEN by the 100% CONSISTENT
RESULTS The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Students REPORT RIGHT HERE Jokerpit, you know, the WONS
HOWER DOG LOVERS CALL LIARS, SHILLS, and FORGERIES.

AS YOU'VE SEEN HERE, ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS CAN BE
100% REHABILITATED NEARLY INSTANTLY, simply by STOPPING
ALL NEGATIVE interactions, including bribes, rewards, and crating.

That's it, Jokerpit. END OF STORY. There truly IS ONLY WON WAY
to appupriately handle and train ALL dogs and children.

That's gonna make a lot of E***PERTS UNCOMFORTABLE, havin
to advise their student's they've been misleading them. Of curse,
the
altenative is they'll FIND HOWET that they've been LYING to them
to
AVOID coming to grips with their MISINFORMATION and ABUSIVE
METHODS which THEY WAS TAUGHT by the likes of professor
SCRUFF SHAKE and william koehler and lyingdogDUMMY and Master
Of Deception blankman and sindy SADIST mooreon and lying frosty
dahl and lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn and the rest of these MENTAL
CASES who call The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual DANGERHOWES and INEFFECTIVE and
call The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Students who REPORT 100% TOTAL NON PHYSICAL NON
ADVERSARIAL CONTROL NEARLY INSTANTLY, LIARS, PAID SHILLS,
and FORGERIES by The Puppy Wizard.

YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THAT NHOWE, Jokerpit.


INDEED. Thank you.

The Puppy Wizard is fixin to GET LAWS with TEETH in them passed to
PROTECT HOWER dogs and children from the liars, abusers, SADISTS
and MENTAL CASES who NEED to HURT innocent beings to compensate
for their fragile defective ego's, weak fear-ridden mind's, and
inferiority complexes.

That means you'll have to change a lot of your ways of training
and relating
to your own dogs, Jokerpit. You'll feel uncomfortable at first,
but that'll all
change when you SEE and FEEL the difference and benefits that
handling
your critters withHOWET any compulsion will bring to you, your
dogs, and
your HOWEshold.

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Bousie
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Geday.


Hey J,

I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same
old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the
only advice worth reading.

The problem with your method J is that I can't
answer the questions on the NG no more, people
are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand
that dog training requires a disiplined method, I'm
now really understanding that they are all result
orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to
stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they
want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not
realising they create a new one as they deal with the last.

I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they
don't even realise the errors of thier ways and
they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority,
after all if everyone says thats the way then it
must be. I've finally realised people don't want
to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog,
they want a little puppet that sits and stays and
downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so
they think, then when the dog acts like a dog
they come squealing to the NG asking how to
stop the dog being a dog.

I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind
that I think demonstrates the way we approach
dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a
cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or
behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents
something about the dog, all of them create what
a dog is.

The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out
the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you
can, problem is each one you stamp out another
takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed
they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise,
but thats the traditional way.

Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds
all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog,
that's what we get hold of with all the little circles
inside, we don't see the little circles we see the BIG
circle the macro as you put it and use that to train.

I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they
are critising something they don't even understand
or even have the capacity to understand.

See ya,

Paul

===============


Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h67d@corp.supernews.com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's
methods with our dog. We had the same problem as the
original poster has with Buzz. One day working with the
family pack exercise and practicing the recall command
with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and
daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you
might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method
and *judge the results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always
comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave
it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay,
walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from
our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm
forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive and
nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
then she was in a shelter for months. They (most of them)
wanted to give up and kill her Now she's gained confidence
and trust with us. Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just once
when she heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that
the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources. In my
opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and leaves
out the bad. Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry personally.
I've emailed him and instant messaged him. I have not bought a
"Doggy Do Right". He's offered help for free.)
-----

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Here's two Pauls:

Date: 5/22/03 11:24:35 PM Eastern
Daylight Time
From: p@cfl.rr.com
To: Witsenddog@aol.com

Well, let me tell you, your Wits' End
Dog Training Method works.

My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons
around the barbecue on the patio. I
used this system on four different occasions.

When she went out today, she looked
everywhere else but the barbecue.
Amazing, just amazing.

I will write to Amanda about the video.

I am really excited to learn more, and
understand. Maybe just a little reassurance
that I am going about it the right way.

Thanks again Paul

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbousie@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Dog vs cat food (stealing cat food)
Date: 2001-03-03 22:18:03 PST

It's possible to teach a dog not to eat out of a cat bowl
without too much difficulty.

My dogs don't touch the food in the cat bowls although
Roz licks up any bits that have been dropped around the bowls :-)

I used a can with stones in it to create a distraction
anytime the dogs tried to eat the cats food, followed
with immediate praise. It worked a treat.

The cats bowls are down all the time, usually there is
food left over but the dogs don't eat it, even if we go
out and leave the dogs with access inside through a dog door.

Paul

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were everyone would have obedient dogs.

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100% TOTAL NON PHYSICAL CONTROL, NEARLY
INSTANTLY, BY NEARLY EVERY FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual Student.

It's the GENTLEST, FASTEST, MOST EFFECTIVE,
NON FORCE, NON CONFRONTATIONAL, NON BRIBE,
SCIENTIFIC and PSYCHOLOGICAL technique in the
Whole Wild World, BAR NONE.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Bousie" <paulbousie@clear.net.nz>
To: "'Don Fitz'" <donfitz69@hotmail.com>; <Amanda@DCFWatch.com>
Cc: <jhowe2@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: Jerry Howe


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Subject: Re: Get off the bed... please?

Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbousie@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Good dogs!!! bad dogs.??
Date: 2000/10/21

Something occurred this morning that made me think how
we treat our dogs and what expectations we have of them.

Because it was a Saturday we slept in and the dogs
eventually jumped up on the bed on my wife's side. After
a brief greeting she very abruptly demanded they get down,
"OFF THE BED" she insisted, Sam looked at her perplexed,
so she repeated the "order", so Sam tried to lick her face,
"GET OFF" she said abruptly.

Sam got down but was unsure what he had done wrong. After
a bit they both came over and jumped up on my side, I patted
them etc and eventually asked them to get down, "off the bed,
good dogs" and they hopped off immediately with no prob's.

Eileen asked me why they obey me and not her so easily.
I told her they got down for me because I asked them to,
they know the command "off the bed" or "off anything" so
there is no need to demand it of them, ask them and they
will comply, demand it and they get confused because
they think you are annoyed with them but they don't know
why so they try to "make amends" which is why Sam licked her.

I have found giving dogs "payment" in advance i.e. "Sam
sit goodboy" makes the dogs want to respond, after all, all
dogs want to be "good dogs" and if you tell them they are
good then they feel an obligation to obey your request.

Telling Sam he's a good dog after he sit's apart from been too
late is also a gamble because if he doesn't sit then there's
no positive interaction.

Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say "good dog"
sincerely at the end of the request and I bet you'll find your
dog thinking then responding everytime.

Paul

=======================


From: Paul B (NOSPAMpanders@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Get off the bed... please?
Date: 2001-07-03 03:05:59 PST

A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies to
every aspect of the relationship with your dog.

Paul.

========================

Subj: Fear of Thunder
Date: 6/29/02 6:07:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Jraltman
To: Witsenddog

Dear Jerry,

I hope you'll be able to post this message so more
people who are at their wit's end will be able to help
their dogs.

To review:

Our puppy was uncomfortable during thunder storms.
At the beginning of the problem, she paced restlessly
from room to room. She couldn't settle and sleep.

From there the problem grew. She would run to the far
southeast corner of the house (which makes sense
because most storms here come from the northwest)
and she'd cower in the corner of the couch and shake.

!st attempt to help her:

I'd pick her up, brush and massage her (call me a nut -
I've sung to her when I've done her daily brushing since
she was tiny so of course I sang too) and when she
relaxed, I'd put her in her crate. She then slept and I
thought the problem was solved.

Traumatic event:

We were out in the park playing with one of her doggy
friends when it began to rain. On the way home, there
was the loudest, longest, thunder clap I've ever heard.

From that day on, the problem got worse and worse.
I couldn't calm her with singing and massage. The fear
spread. She wouldn't go out if it was raining. No thunder,
just gently summer rain, and she wouldn't go out.

The solution:

I surfed the net and came across a free manual Wit's
End Dog Training Method and a product called Doggy
Do Right that seemed better than anything else I came
across.

A phone call to Jerry Howe, author of the manual and
Director of Research, Biosound Scientific, convince me
to try both the manual and the product.

Problem solved:

I followed Jerry's suggestions (more phone calls - he is
most generous with his time and advice). The first two
thunder storms my puppy was restless but not running
around in a blind panic.

The third storm, she barked her deep, stranger danger
bark after each clap of thunder. The fourth storm, she
seemed uneasy at first. Soon she was asleep at my
feet and she napped through the rest of the storm.

A miracle. I am endlessly grateful to Jerry
for his manual and his machine.

A word about Doggy Do Right. It is odd to buy a
machine that emits a sound I cannot hear. I took
the chance because Jerry offered a full refund
including shipping.

Though I heard nothing, my puppy clearly did. When
I first turned on the machine, she got the cutest, most
quizzical look on her face. She looked at me as if to
say: "What's that? I never heard that before."

She looks at the machine when it is on. She rests on the floor
beneath it. It is obvious from her behavior that she is aware
of its cycles.

Amazing.

Thank you Jerry. =============
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"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes@easynews.com wrote
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I read up on rotties, pitbulls, etc., and quite a
bit of the literature suggested I needed to assert
my dominance and "make the dog earn everything it
gets."

I tried this once or twice, just by taking a stern
tone of voice, and the results were terrible.
The pup got scared and just wanted to stay away from
me.

That's why I support Jerry Howe and his FREE
Wits' End Dog Training manual -- that and the fact
that Jerry is an all-around great guy.

The core takeaway I got from Jerry's manual is this:
make yourself the center of your puppy's world -
- his personal Lord Jesus. Never give him a reason
to fear you or think you're angry. Love the heck
out of him, and you'll end up with a great dog.

This has truly worked with my puppy. She'll do
anything I want her to, if she understands, because
she trusts me 100 percent, and nothing is more
important in her world than her relationship
with me. http://www.geocities.com/viscouspuppy
Charlie

=========================

Thank you,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092
Phone: 1-888-BIOSOUND (1-888-246-7686)
Phone: 1-888-WITSEND (1-888-948-7363)
http://www.doggydoright.com

The Puppy Wizard. <}TPW ; ~ ) >

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY Jokerpit,

From: The Puppy Wizard (ThePuppyWizard@earthlink.net)
Subject: Distraction And Praise -
CHOWEnter Surfing / Poison Proofin
Date: 2003-08-01 22:00:56 PST

HOWEDY People,

You will really enjoy and benefit from this post, I expect...

Any time we interact in a behavior by telling the dog no, or
physically restrain, correct, or distract him with bribes or
alternate incompatible behaviors, we become part of the
behavior either as a player or competitor, in the dogs mischief.

Using sound as a distraction must always be followed by
immediate, prolonged, non physical praise. Interrupting a
behavior with sound should never be associated with us,
as in voicing no, or telling the dog to stop it.

The behavior should not be distracted with any intervention.
We want the behavior to begin again, so that we may have
another opportunity to properly address the behavior with
another sound and praise.

That way, we can completely end a problem while the dog is
thinking about it, and we are prepared to address the issue
before it becomes out of control.

The sound must never occur twice in a row
from the same direction.

In other words, if you snapped your fingers in front
of the dog to stop him from chewing on your shoelace,
you'd praise him for five to fif**** seconds immediately
upon snapping your fingers.

The behavior will hopefully resume, and the next sound
of the snap of your fingers must come from behind the
dog, or even from a friend assisting or a soda can with
a few pennies in it from across the room, or any source
of sound, even a coincidental extraneHOWES sHOWEND,
(except our voice!), followed by prolonged non physical
praise, until the dog is no longer thinking about the behavior
or resumes it.

The third interruption of the behavior usually gets the
message across, and the dog will think about the behavior
for just a moment before engaging in it once again for the
fourth and last time... That split second of thinking about
engaging in the behavior requires praise. That moment
of thinking about resuming the behavior and the praise
it earns him will validate the prior interruptions of that
THOUGHT.

Do not react to it with a challenge of shouting no, or
physically removing the temptation. We're NOT interested
in STOPPING the BEHAVIOR, we want to EXTINGUISH
THE THOUGHT OF THE BEHAVIOR.

The dog then needs to test it out, to be sure that the same
behavior will be dealt with in exactly the same manner. They
will usually make a fourth attempt at the behavior, and if you
follow through appupriately, he will learn not to do that
behavior anymore. But only on the one shoelace!

You must then take that behavior to other instances
to fully cease his desire for and thinkin abHOWET
the behavior.

The behavior will not be completely broken until he
has taken the process of elimination to the second,
third, and fourth opportunity, to explore that behavior.

And, even at that, you may need to repeat the process
in four completely different places. That means that the
worst behavior may need up to sixty-four properly timed
interruptions and praise. Usually it happens much quicker
than that.

Breaking a behavior in this manner reduces stress,
takes us out of the position of negative enforcer or
competitor or playmate, and allows the dog to extinguish
a behavior because he simply doesn't get any satisfaction
from it and the thought no longer occurs or appeals to him.

The other secret is giving the dog a payoff for every
time they look at you. Each time you notice eye contact
from your dog, you must praise him verbally, to prevent
his idle mind from doing the devils work. Touching the
dog will distract his thoughts from the context.

You can get all the information you need to properly
handle and train your dog without force, fear, confrontation,
scolding, or punishment in the Wits' End Dog Training Method
manual available for FREE at: http://www.doggydoright.com
The Puppy Wizard. <} : ~ ) >
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----- Original Message -----
From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo

Aloha Jerry,

Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders. I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now. It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.

Your program is awesome, but you already know
that. Keep up the good work!

Hoku

==================

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Bousie
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Geday.


Hey J,

I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same
old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the
only advice worth reading.

The problem with your method J is that I can't
answer the questions on the NG no more, people
are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand
that dog training requires a disiplined method, I'm
now really understanding that they are all result
orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to
stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they
want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not
realising they create a new one as they deal with the last.

I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they
don't even realise the errors of thier ways and
they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority,
after all if everyone says thats the way then it
must be. I've finally realised people don't want
to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog,
they want a little puppet that sits and stays and
downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so
they think, then when the dog acts like a dog
they come squealing to the NG asking how to
stop the dog being a dog.

I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind
that I think demonstrates the way we approach
dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a
cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or
behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents
something about the dog, all of them create what
a dog is.

The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out
the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you
can, problem is each one you stamp out another
takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed
they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise,
but thats the traditional way.

Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds
all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog,
that's what we get hold of with all the little circles
inside, we don't see the little circles we see the BIG
circle the macro as you put it and use that to train.

I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they
are critising something they don't even understand
or even have the capacity to understand.

See ya,

Paul

===============


Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h67d@corp.supernews.com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's
methods with our dog. We had the same problem as the
original poster has with Buzz. One day working with the
family pack exercise and practicing the recall command
with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and
daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you
might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method
and *judge the results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always
comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave
it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay,
walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from
our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm
forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive and
nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
then she was in a shelter for months. They (most of them)
wanted to give up and kill her Now she's gained confidence
and trust with us. Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just once
when she heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that
the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources. In my
opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and leaves
out the bad. Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry personally.
I've emailed him and instant messaged him. I have not bought a
"Doggy Do Right". He's offered help for free.)
-----

M.
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http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: mick@crneckiy.com
AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227

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Here's two Pauls:

Date: 5/22/03 11:24:35 PM Eastern
Daylight Time
From: p@cfl.rr.com
To: Witsenddog@aol.com

Well, let me tell you, your Wits' End
Dog Training Method works.

My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons
around the barbecue on the patio. I
used this system on four different occasions.

When she went out today, she looked
everywhere else but the barbecue.
Amazing, just amazing.

I will write to Amanda about the video.

I am really excited to learn more, and
understand. Maybe just a little reassurance
that I am going about it the right way.

Thanks again Paul

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbousie@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Dog vs cat food (stealing cat food)
Date: 2001-03-03 22:18:03 PST

It's possible to teach a dog not to eat out of a cat bowl
without too much difficulty.

My dogs don't touch the food in the cat bowls although
Roz licks up any bits that have been dropped around the bowls :-)

I used a can with stones in it to create a distraction
anytime the dogs tried to eat the cats food, followed
with immediate praise. It worked a treat.

The cats bowls are down all the time, usually there is
food left over but the dogs don't eat it, even if we go
out and leave the dogs with access inside through a dog door.

Paul

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To: "'Don Fitz'" <donfitz69@hotmail.com>; <Amanda@DCFWatch.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:45 AM
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Subject: Re: Get off the bed... please?

Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbousie@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Good dogs!!! bad dogs.??
Date: 2000/10/21

Something occurred this morning that made me think how
we treat our dogs and what expectations we have of them.

Because it was a Saturday we slept in and the dogs
eventually jumped up on the bed on my wife's side. After
a brief greeting she very abruptly demanded they get down,
"OFF THE BED" she insisted, Sam looked at her perplexed,
so she repeated the "order", so Sam tried to lick her face,
"GET OFF" she said abruptly.

Sam got down but was unsure what he had done wrong. After
a bit they both came over and jumped up on my side, I patted
them etc and eventually asked them to get down, "off the bed,
good dogs" and they hopped off immediately with no prob's.

Eileen asked me why they obey me and not her so easily.
I told her they got down for me because I asked them to,
they know the command "off the bed" or "off anything" so
there is no need to demand it of them, ask them and they
will comply, demand it and they get confused because
they think you are annoyed with them but they don't know
why so they try to "make amends" which is why Sam licked her.

I have found giving dogs "payment" in advance i.e. "Sam
sit goodboy" makes the dogs want to respond, after all, all
dogs want to be "good dogs" and if you tell them they are
good then they feel an obligation to obey your request.

Telling Sam he's a good dog after he sit's apart from been too
late is also a gamble because if he doesn't sit then there's
no positive interaction.

Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say "good dog"
sincerely at the end of the request and I bet you'll find your
dog thinking then responding everytime.

Paul

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From: Paul B (NOSPAMpanders@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Get off the bed... please?
Date: 2001-07-03 03:05:59 PST

A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies to
every aspect of the relationship with your dog.

Paul.

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Subj: Fear of Thunder
Date: 6/29/02 6:07:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Jraltman
To: Witsenddog

Dear Jerry,

I hope you'll be able to post this message so more
people who are at their wit's end will be able to help
their dogs.

To review:

Our puppy was uncomfortable during thunder storms.
At the beginning of the problem, she paced restlessly
from room to room. She couldn't settle and sleep.

From there the problem grew. She would run to the far
southeast corner of the house (which makes sense
because most storms here come from the northwest)
and she'd cower in the corner of the couch and shake.

!st attempt to help her:

I'd pick her up, brush and massage her (call me a nut -
I've sung to her when I've done her daily brushing since
she was tiny so of course I sang too) and when she
relaxed, I'd put her in her crate. She then slept and I
thought the problem was solved.

Traumatic event:

We were out in the park playing with one of her doggy
friends when it began to rain. On the way home, there
was the loudest, longest, thunder clap I've ever heard.

From that day on, the problem got worse and worse.
I couldn't calm her with singing and massage. The fear
spread. She wouldn't go out if it was raining. No thunder,
just gently summer rain, and she wouldn't go out.

The solution:

I surfed the net and came across a free manual Wit's
End Dog Training Method and a product called Doggy
Do Right that seemed better than anything else I came
across.

A phone call to Jerry Howe, author of the manual and
Director of Research, Biosound Scientific, convince me
to try both the manual and the product.

Problem solved:

I followed Jerry's suggestions (more phone calls - he is
most generous with his time and advice). The first two
thunder storms my puppy was restless but not running
around in a blind panic.

The third storm, she barked her deep, stranger danger
bark after each clap of thunder. The fourth storm, she
seemed uneasy at first. Soon she was asleep at my
feet and she napped through the rest of the storm.

A miracle. I am endlessly grateful to Jerry
for his manual and his machine.

A word about Doggy Do Right. It is odd to buy a
machine that emits a sound I cannot hear. I took
the chance because Jerry offered a full refund
including shipping.

Though I heard nothing, my puppy clearly did. When
I first turned on the machine, she got the cutest, most
quizzical look on her face. She looked at me as if to
say: "What's that? I never heard that before."

She looks at the machine when it is on. She rests on the floor
beneath it. It is obvious from her behavior that she is aware
of its cycles.

Amazing.

Thank you Jerry. =============
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I read up on rotties, pitbulls, etc., and quite a
bit of the literature suggested I needed to assert
my dominance and "make the dog earn everything it
gets."

I tried this once or twice, just by taking a stern
tone of voice, and the results were terrible.
The pup got scared and just wanted to stay away from
me.

That's why I support Jerry Howe and his FREE
Wits' End Dog Training manual -- that and the fact
that Jerry is an all-around great guy.

The core takeaway I got from Jerry's manual is this:
make yourself the center of your puppy's world -
- his personal Lord Jesus. Never give him a reason
to fear you or think you're angry. Love the heck
out of him, and you'll end up with a great dog.

This has truly worked with my puppy. She'll do
anything I want her to, if she understands, because
she trusts me 100 percent, and nothing is more
important in her world than her relationship
with me. http://www.geocities.com/viscouspuppy
Charlie

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Thank you,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092
Phone: 1-888-BIOSOUND (1-888-246-7686)
Phone: 1-888-WITSEND (1-888-948-7363)
http://www.doggydoright.com

The Puppy Wizard. <}TPW ; ~ ) >