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From: "RobDar" <rob...@houndsong.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:57:08 -0600

Subject: Re: Great Place for Electronic Dog Training Collars

yep...some people hate the collars....and some Beagles NEED a collar!

THAT'S INSANE. E***CESSIVE BARKIN is a SYMPTOM of SUMPTHIN WRONG.


THAT'S INSANE. You can TRAIN ANY DOG not to bark E***CESSIVELY
in a few minutes if you know HOWE, withHOWET HURTIN them as robdar PREFERS.

THAT'S SHEER IDIOCY.


LikeWIZE, THAT'S EZ TO DO if you know HOWE.

Oh? DO TELL???


On accHOWENT of robdar DON'T KNOW HOWE to train a dog
not to do ANYTHING <{) ; ~ ) >


BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!

Then WHAT'S THE SHOCK COLLAR FOR???


NO. So called obedience training will make the dog MORE SUBMISSIVE
and MORE AFRAID and will INCREASE his FEAR BARKING.

Naaah??? DO TELL?

"yep...some people hate the collars....and some Beagles NEED a collar! "


BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

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HOWEDY robdar, RobDar wrote:


INDEEDY. IN FACT, you're a PROFESSIONAL DOG ABUSER:

Northwest Indiana Beagle Rescue (Roberta & Darin Lee)

The only requirement is that the dog has to used to
being kept in outdoor kennels without howling like
a fool at every leaf that blows or voice it hears.

Contact Darin Lee
RobDar's HoundSong Rescue rob...@houndsong.com
From: "RobDar" <rob...@houndsong.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:57:08 -0600
Subject: Re: Great Place for Electronic Dog Training Collars

yep...some people hate the collars....and some Beagles NEED a collar!


Well then, you probably got no need for us or your "behaviorialist":
From: "RobDar" <whats-it-to-...@goaway.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:40:58 -0600

Subject: Re: A new dog in the family

Hmmm...
I am a believer that so long as the dogs are not making efforts to harm
each
other that they will work things out on their own. I believe dogs will
naturally develope a more functional and beneficial relationship when
they
are allowed to do so on their own. Though this is somewhat predicated
on the
fact that I know a wee bit about certian behaviors/ pack behaviors/ and
know
what warning signs to look for...and anything I am not sure of, We have
a
behavioralist just a phone call away.

I guess my advice is...the more you can learn about your dogs behavior
the
better of you and your dogs will be...but you knew that already.


BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

What's your "behavioralist" got to say, robdar???


You jerk choke and shock innocent defenseless dumb critters.


You're the abuser, robdar.


A DOG IS A DOG, robdar.

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated
At UofOH Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive
Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific
Management Of Doggys. <{) ; ~ ) >


THAT'S IRRELEVENT you dog abusing punk thug coward.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

Opposite *** aggression is the MOST UNNATURAL thing in the
WHOWEL WILD WORLD for a dog to do, after HOWEsbreakin problems.


Naaah? DO TELL???


FIGGER IT HOWET, dog abuser.


IOW, you COULDN'T TRAIN her.


Where you jerked and choked IT somemore.

BWEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! grant teeboon of the RAAF
was gonna get hisself a "bark buster's" franchise.


IOW they KNOW HOWE to HURT and INTIMDIATE their dogs.


NAAAAAH???:

From: Paul Bousie
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Geday.

Hey J,

I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same
old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the
only advice worth reading.

The problem with your method J is that I can't
answer the questions on the NG no more, people
are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand
that dog training requires a disiplined method, I'm
now really understanding that they are all result
orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to
stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they
want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not
realising they create a new one as they deal with
the last.

I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they
don't even realise the errors of thier ways and
they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority,
after all if everyone says thats the way then it
must be. I've finally realised people don't want
to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog,
they want a little puppet that sits and stays and
downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so
they think, then when the dog acts like a dog
they come squealing to the NG asking how to
stop the dog being a dog.

I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind
that I think demonstrates the way we approach
dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a
cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or
behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents
something about the dog, all of them create what
a dog is.

The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out
the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you
can, problem is each one you stamp out another
takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed
they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise,
but thats the traditional way.

Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds
all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog,
that's what we get hold of with all the little circles
inside, we don't see the little circles we see the BIG
circle the macro as you put it and use that to train.

I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they
are critising something they don't even understand
or even have the capacity to understand.

See ya,
Paul =====================


You mean she's HYPERACTIVE from ABUSE.

You mean she's HYPERACTIVE and HOWETA CON-TROLL.

That so? You SHOCK your dogs to "get their barking under CON-TROLL."


You mean your jerking choking and shocking made her PARANOID.

THAT'S FEAR, robdar.


Oh, well then, all you gotta do is TRAIN her not to jump at the windows.


On accHOWENT of your'e a dog abusing mental case, robdar.


You mean she doesn't FEAR you HURTIN her somemore.

ON ACCHOWENT OF YOU'VE ABUSED HER.

You've driven the dog INSANE.

You mean YOU never know, robdar. The Amazing Puppy
Wizard KNOWS quite well HOWE COME your dogs is INSANE.


THAT'S HOWE COME SHE'S INSANE.


You mean they AIN'T READY TO MURDER HER.

DOGS DON'T HAVE "FITS" UNLESS THEY'RE ABUSED.


You mean you jerked and choked and shocked her.

THAT'S INSANE.


BWEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!!!

You mean AVOIDING EVERY THING.


You mean you was INCONSISTENT.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

ASK YOUR BEHAVIORALIST.

Oh, and while your at it, give him his own FREE COPY
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual:

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