27th April 08:52
From: Morag Cave (email@example.com)
Subject: Re: JUMPING / MOUTHING On PEOPLE
Date: 2001-08-19 23:56:46 PST
Sorry to jump in here, but unfortunately when, in the mood, my
mouth tends to act before my brain has time to think.
I may personally find Jerry's post a tad laborious and I hated
the upper case bits and the bla bla bla extra lines, but, the
basics of what he was saying made sense and did work for me
(athough he never did get as far as telling me how to stop
Harry getting out of the garden so I was forced to resort to a
2.5m fence) .......and, in Jerry's defence, whenever I
contacted him personally, he was great, his suggestions did
actually work and never once did he try to palm me off with
these silly gizmos that I keep hearing reference to (not that
I would have paid any attention to them anyway). I also
preferred his way of doing things as opposed to anything that
I regarded as cruel or demanded mega submission from the
I must admit that I actually found Jerry's manual to be quite
easy reading and quite commonsensical.
.... if you are patient, I'll give you my added opinion after
seeing the hounds from hell through 6 months of unlearning
everything and me having to start at toilet training again
"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net wrote in message
I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do
know she's not here with us. I really can't blame
anyone here for her loss.
I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because
of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the
idea that my using a shock collar could have any
bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home.
Up until I started using it my main concern had
been keeping my dogs in their own yard.
Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my
concern became how to keep them from running
off for days on end.
I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled
in the anti- shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world
now <g A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained,
doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard,
and doesn't bark all the time.
IOW a great companion and friend.
Thanks Jerry! =====================
misty" <Momisty@webtv.net> wrote in message news:6946-3B6337A1firstname.lastname@example.org...
Robert Crim writes:
I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since
I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough
of the manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher and the
posts of Marylin Rammell to believe and use it. This naive
child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marylin
for putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile
crap at the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers.
The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging
idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe
we would not have had to hold the head of a really
magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the
needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped
his last gasp.
To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into
good behavior. Naive is believing that people that hide
behind fake names are more honest than people that use
their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog
breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.
"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marylin Rammell are going to
just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you
act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care.
I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and take
it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You
would never believe the results, so you'll never know.
I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh?
As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.
Yes it was, and that is sad.
Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen to
the box first?)
Robert Crim was a former Gang Of Thugs Member, and
hated me a much as the rest of our Thugs do. Robert was a
long time friend and prominent contributor to rpdb, till Jerry
came along and smartened him up. He learned the hard
way, and no longer posts to his former pals, because it is
just too painful knowing his pals would rather HURT and
KILL their dogs than to admit that JERRY is RIGHT.