the puppy wizard

THAT'S INSANE.

It only takes a couple moments to TRAIN a dog NOT to dig.

dixie sugar

How? They generally do this at night or when no one is in the yard with
them.

Dixie

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY Dixie Sugar,


You mean HOWE do you E***TINGUISH ANY behavior.

It's EZ!

ALL the INSTRUCTIONS are in your FREE copy of
The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual available for FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com

PROBABLY they try to do it behind your back
on accHOWENT of you've scolded them pryor.
HOWEver, THAT ain't NO PROBLEM for The
Amazing Puppy Wizard on accHOWENT of
THAT'S HOWE COME HE'S The Amazing Puppy Wizard.
REMEMBER? <{) ; ~ ) >

ALL behaviors are the SAME SAME SAME SAME.

ALL behaviors are E***TINGUISHED or MODIFIED
to YOUR DESIRE NEARLY INSTANTLY using
EFFECTIVE NON PHYSICAL SCIENTIFIC and
PSYCHOLOGICAL CONDITIONING, RELAXATION
and DESENSITIZATION techniques as taught
in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.


The OBJECTIVE and IF DONE PUPPERLY, the RESULT
of BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION is the dog QUICKLY BECOMES CONDITIONED
and SELF CON-TROLLED
so YOU don't have to BE THERE to ENFORCE CON-TROLL.

THAT'S the DIFFERENCE between EFFECTIVE NON
PHYSICAL SCIENTIFIC and PSYCHOLOGICAL CON-
DITIONING Vs AVERSIVES / AVODIANCE & BRIBERY
as the E***PERTS tell us to use:
Hello dog ma,
"dog ma" <"karma-dog(NOSPAM)"@excite.com> wrote in message news:3A4BA282.6BA77DC3@excite.com...


If "Its probably useless to punish the dog for digging
up the trees" and will probably make the problem
worse, WHAT IS TELLING HER "NO!" and removing
her going to accomplish???

Punishment is NOT subjective. IT either IS, or IT AIN'T.

That makes making value judgement calls EASY. If you
gotta think, "is this punishment, is this going to hurt, scare,
intimidate, admonish, bribe or withhold attention or affection"
then, it PROBABLY IS PUNISHMENT and is CHOWENTER
PRODUCTIVE at best and DEADLY, in it's worst case scenario.


Well, that's calling koehler a LIAR, isn't it? I know you're
not a koehler trainer, but you've GOT to UNDERSTAND
that MOST of our rpdb regulars ARE koehler trainers
and as such, they're a sensitive lot, and would prefer
that you not disparage their life's work.

They only kill dogs that are from bad breeding,
because well bred dogs are designed through
the marvels of selective breeding, to be HONEST
in their work AND SO F****VING... whatever
the heell all that means...


Yes. Occasionally, you'll find a decent class where pain
fear force intimidation avoidance bribery are not prerequisite.
But for everyone I meet who's had an excellent experience
with "obedience classes," I meet two who've left training with
a traumatized dog and many of them come out of it with bad
temperament problems, and they're told to kill the dog because
he's 99% good, but that 1% of the time they get psycho, is too much.

Tying or crating a dog can cause a lot of temperament
problems, for sure. HOWEver, we can address those
problems, but NOT before the dog has had a little training.

And you should have kept going over to a can you've set
out to be available for such an instance, and then casually
walk by the damaged area, and subtly ask, "what's that?"
as you drop the can with pennies in it and continue about
your business without saying anything. That's the only
instance sound will be used without being followed by
instant, prolonged, non physical praise. It's all in your
FREE copy of my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

THAT'S SUCCESS???

You could have forgone all that had you read
my manual four months ago.


It's a little more involved than just occupy the dog with
toys and exercise. That won't have much of an impact
at all. The secret to success is in the method.


Your pal, Jerry "The Phony," Howe,
The Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

==================


From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST


And how do we know this aspect of his advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.

His advice could be subject to an empirical ****ysis.

--Marshall =================
"Marshall Dermer" <dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@uwm.edu...

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpanders@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST

Hello Marshall,

The way I view it from my observation of how
my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts
the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just
interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for
a second and then will either continue the
behaviour or do something else.

The praise reassures the dog that the sound
distraction is not a threat or punishment,
however if everytime the dog resumes a
particular behaviour it's distracted immediately
(and praised immediately for reassurance) then
it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling
and it ceases.

A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place
and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be
otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable
alternate behaviour is offered.

One example, Sam used to jump up on me
when I arrived home, I would shake can to
distract him right at the moment he was
about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions
he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of
course this was fine so I let it be.

While the concept of shake cans is not new,
I haven't read any other advice that says to
praise immediately regardless of what the
dog does next (the common advice is to
praise once the dog is doing a desired
behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted
behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn)
and from my own experiences is an important
part of the process.

--- Original Message -----
From: Paul Bousie
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Geday.

Hey J,

I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same
old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the
only advice worth reading.

The problem with your method J is that I can't
answer the questions on the NG no more, people
are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand
that dog training requires a disiplined method, I'm
now really understanding that they are all result
orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to
stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they
want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not
realising they create a new one as they deal with
the last.

I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they
don't even realise the errors of thier ways and
they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority,
after all if everyone says thats the way then it
must be. I've finally realised people don't want
to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog,
they want a little puppet that sits and stays and
downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so
they think, then when the dog acts like a dog
they come squealing to the NG asking how to
stop the dog being a dog.

I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind
that I think demonstrates the way we approach
dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a
cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or
behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents
something about the dog, all of them create what
a dog is.

The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out
the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you
can, problem is each one you stamp out another
takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed
they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise,
but thats the traditional way.

Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds
all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog,
that's what we get hold of with all the little circles
inside, we don't see the little circles we see the BIG
circle the macro as you put it and use that to train.

I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they
are critising something they don't even understand
or even have the capacity to understand.

See ya,

Paul
=====================
"Paul B" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3edc57c5@clear.net.nz...

100% TOTAL NON PHYSICAL CONTROL, NEARLY
INSTANTLY, BY NEARLY EVERY FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual Student.

It's the GENTLEST, FASTEST, MOST EFFECTIVE,
NON FORCE, NON CONFRONTATIONAL, NON BRIBE,
SCIENTIFIC and PSYCHOLOGICAL technique in the
Whole Wild World, BAR NONE.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Bousie" <paulbousie@clear.net.nz>
To: "'Don Fitz'" <donfitz69@hotmail.com>; <Amanda@DCFWatch.com>
Cc: <jhowe2@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: Jerry Howe

==============================

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY diana aka lush,

The QUESTION is HOWE to TRAIN a dog
to NOT DO a "SELF REWARDING" behavior
when the handler ain't standin there ready
to HURT INTIMIDATE BRIBE or give an
alternate incompatible behavior as a REWARD
for UNDESIRABLE or BAD BEHAVIORS.

THAT'S EZ!

It's CALLED trainin.

If a dog is pupperly TRAIN he won't DO
undesirable behaviors when there ain't
no ABUSER present to ENFORCE CON-TROLL.

REMEMBER lush?

Your own DEAD DOG Stone DIED from
STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-
EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

REMEMBER?

Your DEAD DOG Stone DIED from GOIN INSANE.

NO PROBLEMO.

We can E***TINUGISH ANY BEHAVIOR NEARLY
INSTANTLY withHOWET havin to HURT BRIBE
AVOID behaviors or INTIMIDATE the dog.

You mean the QUESTION of HOWE to STOP
anxiHOWES behavior when you're not standin
there ready to HURT and INTIMDATE your dog
someMOORE like HOWE you couldn't CON-
TROLL your own DEAD DOG Stone's DESTRUCTIVE
SEPARATION anxiHOWESNESS that made
her PHYSICALLY ILL and GOT HER DEAD?

THAT'S EZ, lush.

Your DEAD DOG Stone GOT DEAD on accHOWENT
of YOU STRESSED HER INTO INSANITY, like yourself.

You've got a VERY LONG POSTED CASE HISTORY
of FAMILIAL and ANIMAL ABUSE. You've HURT
INTIMIDATED and MURDERED your own DEAD
DOG Stone and you'll DO and SAY ANY THING
to DEFEND your alleged RIGHT to HURT and
INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs JUST LIKE HOWE
you DONE to your own DEAD DOG Stone and
LIED abHOWET it.

REMEMBER NHOWE, lush you drunken lying
dog abusing punk thug coward and ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASE?


NO lush. You don't give a STUPID answer
and GRIN abHOWET it. NOT withHOWET
The Amazing Puppy Wizard comin along
behind and IDENTIFYING E***POSING
and DISCREDITING you as the lying dog
abusing punk thug coward and active long
term incurable MENTAL CASE you are.

REMEMBER NHOWE lush you lying dog
abusing punk thug coward and active long
term incurable MENTAL CASE?


From: Diane (dbergman@wwdc.com)
Subject: biting and attention
Date: 1999/10/13

I hope I'm not being a pest,(I have at least one
question a week) but I've never owned a lab
before and I think my 8month old lab/shepherd
has severe problems.

This newsgroup made me realize she is normal.

Her major problem is biting but I'm told labs and
shepherds are both bad for that as puppies.

Tonight I went to answer the phone and she took
my arm and wouldn't let go. I had to hang up as
my arm still has puncture wounds.

Has anyone had this problem?

I think she gets upset that all my attention is not
on her anymore. (I do spend a lot of time with
her and everyone tells me that I spoil her too much)

She also bites when she needs to go outside.

Any suggestions?

------------------------------------------------------------------

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

THAT'S A SYMPTOM OF MENTAL ILLNESS.


BOTH THESE GUYS GOT DEAD DOGS
CAUSE THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE THEIR
Puppy Wizzzard TILL IT WAS TOO LATE.
"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net>
wrote in message news:16990-3CAB1F8C-1@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...

"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net>
wrote in message news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net

============ <"Terri"@cyberhighway

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive
childs since I freely admit to having read and, I
hope, understood enough of the manual and it's
counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of
Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant
barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of
supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had been
posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to
hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our
arms while he was given the needle and having to
hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a
dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that
people that hide behind fake names are more
honest than people that use their real names.

Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have
studied and lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really
stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and
Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because
you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea,
and I don't really care.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day
and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use
and testing. You would never believe the results, so
you'll never know.


I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and
Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get
what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.


Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===============

AND THOSE ARE THE RESULTS OF MENTAL ILLNESS.

Thank you, Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St Orlando, FL 32805 Phone: 1-407-425-5092
The Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW; - ) >

ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?

,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <{}YPW; ~ } >
oo-oo

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY hotkey,


You could do that.

OR you could just E***TINGUISH the behavior
NEARLY INSTANTLY if you FOLLOW THE
INSTRUCTIONS in your FREE copy of The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual available
FOR FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com


THAT'S HOWE COME DOGS DO anxiHOWESNESS
behaviors like E***CESSIVE barking digging fighting
chewing self mutilation fence jumping and of curse, FEAR
AGGRESSION and RUNNIN HOWET on their abusers.

THAT'S HOWE COME we got so many "STRAY" dogs.
Dogs and children ALMOST NEVER GET LOST they
RUN HOWET on their ABUSERS.

And NOWON had ANY trainin advice OTHER
than HURT and INTIMDIATE your dogs or NOT
LET THE DOGS HOWET unless you're standin
there ready to HURT and INTIMIDATE the dogs someMOORE.


Yeah. And NOWON had ANY trainin advice
to E***TINGUISH their E***CESSIVE DIGGING.


You can E***TINGUISH E***CESSIVE digging
or ANY behavior or ANY behavior PROBLEM NEARLY
INSTANTLY so long as you don't VARIABLY REINFORCE
the BAD BEHAVIORS with PUNISHMENT and REWARDS

UNLESS you can HURT INTIMIDATE and REWARD
ALL BAD BEHAVIORS NEARLY INSTANTLY EVERY
TIME and THAT'S HOWE COME DOGS DIE from
STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE and
THAT'S HOWE COME you bums CANNOT TRAIN
your dogs NO MATTER WHAT. BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHAHAHAHAA!!!


AIN'T YOU HAD ENOUGH YET, Dixie Sugar?


You're welcome.

From: Diane (dbergman@wwdc.com)
Subject: biting and attention
Date: 1999/10/13

I hope I'm not being a pest,(I have at least one
question a week) but I've never owned a lab
before and I think my 8month old lab/shepherd
has severe problems.

This newsgroup made me realize she is normal.

Her major problem is biting but I'm told labs and
shepherds are both bad for that as puppies.

Tonight I went to answer the phone and she took
my arm and wouldn't let go. I had to hang up as
my arm still has puncture wounds.

Has anyone had this problem?

I think she gets upset that all my attention is not
on her anymore. (I do spend a lot of time with
her and everyone tells me that I spoil her too much)

She also bites when she needs to go outside.

Any suggestions?

------------------------------------------------------------------

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

THAT'S A SYMPTOM OF MENTAL ILLNESS.


BOTH THESE GUYS GOT DEAD DOGS
CAUSE THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE THEIR
Puppy Wizzzard TILL IT WAS TOO LATE.
"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net>
wrote in message news:16990-3CAB1F8C-1@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...

"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net>
wrote in message news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net

============ <"Terri"@cyberhighway

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive
childs since I freely admit to having read and, I
hope, understood enough of the manual and it's
counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of
Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant
barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of
supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had been
posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to
hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our
arms while he was given the needle and having to
hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a
dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that
people that hide behind fake names are more
honest than people that use their real names.

Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have
studied and lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really
stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and
Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because
you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea,
and I don't really care.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day
and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use
and testing. You would never believe the results, so
you'll never know.


I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and
Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get
what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.


Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===============

AND THOSE ARE THE RESULTS OF MENTAL ILLNESS.

Thank you, Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092

The Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW; - ) >

ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?

,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <{}YPW; ~ } >
oo-oo

the puppy wizard

THAT'S INSANE.

It only takes a couple moments to TRAIN a dog NOT to dig.

dixie sugar

How? They generally do this at night or when no one is in the yard with
them.

Dixie

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY Dixie Sugar,


You mean HOWE do you E***TINGUISH ANY behavior.

It's EZ!

ALL the INSTRUCTIONS are in your FREE copy of
The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual available for FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com

PROBABLY they try to do it behind your back
on accHOWENT of you've scolded them pryor.
HOWEver, THAT ain't NO PROBLEM for The
Amazing Puppy Wizard on accHOWENT of
THAT'S HOWE COME HE'S The Amazing Puppy Wizard.
REMEMBER? <{) ; ~ ) >

ALL behaviors are the SAME SAME SAME SAME.

ALL behaviors are E***TINGUISHED or MODIFIED
to YOUR DESIRE NEARLY INSTANTLY using
EFFECTIVE NON PHYSICAL SCIENTIFIC and
PSYCHOLOGICAL CONDITIONING, RELAXATION
and DESENSITIZATION techniques as taught
in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.


The OBJECTIVE and IF DONE PUPPERLY, the RESULT
of BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION is the dog QUICKLY BECOMES CONDITIONED
and SELF CON-TROLLED
so YOU don't have to BE THERE to ENFORCE CON-TROLL.

THAT'S the DIFFERENCE between EFFECTIVE NON
PHYSICAL SCIENTIFIC and PSYCHOLOGICAL CON-
DITIONING Vs AVERSIVES / AVODIANCE & BRIBERY
as the E***PERTS tell us to use:
Hello dog ma,
"dog ma" <"karma-dog(NOSPAM)"@excite.com> wrote in message news:3A4BA282.6BA77DC3@excite.com...


If "Its probably useless to punish the dog for digging
up the trees" and will probably make the problem
worse, WHAT IS TELLING HER "NO!" and removing
her going to accomplish???

Punishment is NOT subjective. IT either IS, or IT AIN'T.

That makes making value judgement calls EASY. If you
gotta think, "is this punishment, is this going to hurt, scare,
intimidate, admonish, bribe or withhold attention or affection"
then, it PROBABLY IS PUNISHMENT and is CHOWENTER
PRODUCTIVE at best and DEADLY, in it's worst case scenario.


Well, that's calling koehler a LIAR, isn't it? I know you're
not a koehler trainer, but you've GOT to UNDERSTAND
that MOST of our rpdb regulars ARE koehler trainers
and as such, they're a sensitive lot, and would prefer
that you not disparage their life's work.

They only kill dogs that are from bad breeding,
because well bred dogs are designed through
the marvels of selective breeding, to be HONEST
in their work AND SO F****VING... whatever
the heell all that means...


Yes. Occasionally, you'll find a decent class where pain
fear force intimidation avoidance bribery are not prerequisite.
But for everyone I meet who's had an excellent experience
with "obedience classes," I meet two who've left training with
a traumatized dog and many of them come out of it with bad
temperament problems, and they're told to kill the dog because
he's 99% good, but that 1% of the time they get psycho, is too much.

Tying or crating a dog can cause a lot of temperament
problems, for sure. HOWEver, we can address those
problems, but NOT before the dog has had a little training.

And you should have kept going over to a can you've set
out to be available for such an instance, and then casually
walk by the damaged area, and subtly ask, "what's that?"
as you drop the can with pennies in it and continue about
your business without saying anything. That's the only
instance sound will be used without being followed by
instant, prolonged, non physical praise. It's all in your
FREE copy of my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

THAT'S SUCCESS???

You could have forgone all that had you read
my manual four months ago.


It's a little more involved than just occupy the dog with
toys and exercise. That won't have much of an impact
at all. The secret to success is in the method.


Your pal, Jerry "The Phony," Howe,
The Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

==================


From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST


And how do we know this aspect of his advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.

His advice could be subject to an empirical ****ysis.

--Marshall =================
"Marshall Dermer" <dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@uwm.edu...

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpanders@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST

Hello Marshall,

The way I view it from my observation of how
my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts
the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just
interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for
a second and then will either continue the
behaviour or do something else.

The praise reassures the dog that the sound
distraction is not a threat or punishment,
however if everytime the dog resumes a
particular behaviour it's distracted immediately
(and praised immediately for reassurance) then
it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling
and it ceases.

A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place
and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be
otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable
alternate behaviour is offered.

One example, Sam used to jump up on me
when I arrived home, I would shake can to
distract him right at the moment he was
about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions
he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of
course this was fine so I let it be.

While the concept of shake cans is not new,
I haven't read any other advice that says to
praise immediately regardless of what the
dog does next (the common advice is to
praise once the dog is doing a desired
behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted
behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn)
and from my own experiences is an important
part of the process.

--- Original Message -----
From: Paul Bousie
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Geday.

Hey J,

I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same
old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the
only advice worth reading.

The problem with your method J is that I can't
answer the questions on the NG no more, people
are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand
that dog training requires a disiplined method, I'm
now really understanding that they are all result
orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to
stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they
want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not
realising they create a new one as they deal with
the last.

I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they
don't even realise the errors of thier ways and
they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority,
after all if everyone says thats the way then it
must be. I've finally realised people don't want
to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog,
they want a little puppet that sits and stays and
downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so
they think, then when the dog acts like a dog
they come squealing to the NG asking how to
stop the dog being a dog.

I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind
that I think demonstrates the way we approach
dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a
cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or
behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents
something about the dog, all of them create what
a dog is.

The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out
the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you
can, problem is each one you stamp out another
takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed
they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise,
but thats the traditional way.

Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds
all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog,
that's what we get hold of with all the little circles
inside, we don't see the little circles we see the BIG
circle the macro as you put it and use that to train.

I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they
are critising something they don't even understand
or even have the capacity to understand.

See ya,

Paul
=====================
"Paul B" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3edc57c5@clear.net.nz...

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INSTANTLY, BY NEARLY EVERY FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual Student.

It's the GENTLEST, FASTEST, MOST EFFECTIVE,
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SCIENTIFIC and PSYCHOLOGICAL technique in the
Whole Wild World, BAR NONE.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Bousie" <paulbousie@clear.net.nz>
To: "'Don Fitz'" <donfitz69@hotmail.com>; <Amanda@DCFWatch.com>
Cc: <jhowe2@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: Jerry Howe

==============================

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY diana aka lush,

The QUESTION is HOWE to TRAIN a dog
to NOT DO a "SELF REWARDING" behavior
when the handler ain't standin there ready
to HURT INTIMIDATE BRIBE or give an
alternate incompatible behavior as a REWARD
for UNDESIRABLE or BAD BEHAVIORS.

THAT'S EZ!

It's CALLED trainin.

If a dog is pupperly TRAIN he won't DO
undesirable behaviors when there ain't
no ABUSER present to ENFORCE CON-TROLL.

REMEMBER lush?

Your own DEAD DOG Stone DIED from
STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-
EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

REMEMBER?

Your DEAD DOG Stone DIED from GOIN INSANE.

NO PROBLEMO.

We can E***TINUGISH ANY BEHAVIOR NEARLY
INSTANTLY withHOWET havin to HURT BRIBE
AVOID behaviors or INTIMIDATE the dog.

You mean the QUESTION of HOWE to STOP
anxiHOWES behavior when you're not standin
there ready to HURT and INTIMDATE your dog
someMOORE like HOWE you couldn't CON-
TROLL your own DEAD DOG Stone's DESTRUCTIVE
SEPARATION anxiHOWESNESS that made
her PHYSICALLY ILL and GOT HER DEAD?

THAT'S EZ, lush.

Your DEAD DOG Stone GOT DEAD on accHOWENT
of YOU STRESSED HER INTO INSANITY, like yourself.

You've got a VERY LONG POSTED CASE HISTORY
of FAMILIAL and ANIMAL ABUSE. You've HURT
INTIMIDATED and MURDERED your own DEAD
DOG Stone and you'll DO and SAY ANY THING
to DEFEND your alleged RIGHT to HURT and
INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs JUST LIKE HOWE
you DONE to your own DEAD DOG Stone and
LIED abHOWET it.

REMEMBER NHOWE, lush you drunken lying
dog abusing punk thug coward and ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASE?


NO lush. You don't give a STUPID answer
and GRIN abHOWET it. NOT withHOWET
The Amazing Puppy Wizard comin along
behind and IDENTIFYING E***POSING
and DISCREDITING you as the lying dog
abusing punk thug coward and active long
term incurable MENTAL CASE you are.

REMEMBER NHOWE lush you lying dog
abusing punk thug coward and active long
term incurable MENTAL CASE?


From: Diane (dbergman@wwdc.com)
Subject: biting and attention
Date: 1999/10/13

I hope I'm not being a pest,(I have at least one
question a week) but I've never owned a lab
before and I think my 8month old lab/shepherd
has severe problems.

This newsgroup made me realize she is normal.

Her major problem is biting but I'm told labs and
shepherds are both bad for that as puppies.

Tonight I went to answer the phone and she took
my arm and wouldn't let go. I had to hang up as
my arm still has puncture wounds.

Has anyone had this problem?

I think she gets upset that all my attention is not
on her anymore. (I do spend a lot of time with
her and everyone tells me that I spoil her too much)

She also bites when she needs to go outside.

Any suggestions?

------------------------------------------------------------------

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

THAT'S A SYMPTOM OF MENTAL ILLNESS.


BOTH THESE GUYS GOT DEAD DOGS
CAUSE THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE THEIR
Puppy Wizzzard TILL IT WAS TOO LATE.
"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net>
wrote in message news:16990-3CAB1F8C-1@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...

"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net>
wrote in message news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net

============ <"Terri"@cyberhighway

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive
childs since I freely admit to having read and, I
hope, understood enough of the manual and it's
counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of
Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant
barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of
supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had been
posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to
hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our
arms while he was given the needle and having to
hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a
dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that
people that hide behind fake names are more
honest than people that use their real names.

Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have
studied and lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really
stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and
Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because
you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea,
and I don't really care.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day
and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use
and testing. You would never believe the results, so
you'll never know.


I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and
Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get
what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.


Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===============

AND THOSE ARE THE RESULTS OF MENTAL ILLNESS.

Thank you, Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St Orlando, FL 32805 Phone: 1-407-425-5092
The Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW; - ) >

ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?

,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <{}YPW; ~ } >
oo-oo

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY hotkey,


You could do that.

OR you could just E***TINGUISH the behavior
NEARLY INSTANTLY if you FOLLOW THE
INSTRUCTIONS in your FREE copy of The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual available
FOR FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com


THAT'S HOWE COME DOGS DO anxiHOWESNESS
behaviors like E***CESSIVE barking digging fighting
chewing self mutilation fence jumping and of curse, FEAR
AGGRESSION and RUNNIN HOWET on their abusers.

THAT'S HOWE COME we got so many "STRAY" dogs.
Dogs and children ALMOST NEVER GET LOST they
RUN HOWET on their ABUSERS.

And NOWON had ANY trainin advice OTHER
than HURT and INTIMDIATE your dogs or NOT
LET THE DOGS HOWET unless you're standin
there ready to HURT and INTIMIDATE the dogs someMOORE.


Yeah. And NOWON had ANY trainin advice
to E***TINGUISH their E***CESSIVE DIGGING.


You can E***TINGUISH E***CESSIVE digging
or ANY behavior or ANY behavior PROBLEM NEARLY
INSTANTLY so long as you don't VARIABLY REINFORCE
the BAD BEHAVIORS with PUNISHMENT and REWARDS

UNLESS you can HURT INTIMIDATE and REWARD
ALL BAD BEHAVIORS NEARLY INSTANTLY EVERY
TIME and THAT'S HOWE COME DOGS DIE from
STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE and
THAT'S HOWE COME you bums CANNOT TRAIN
your dogs NO MATTER WHAT. BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHAHAHAHAA!!!


AIN'T YOU HAD ENOUGH YET, Dixie Sugar?


You're welcome.

From: Diane (dbergman@wwdc.com)
Subject: biting and attention
Date: 1999/10/13

I hope I'm not being a pest,(I have at least one
question a week) but I've never owned a lab
before and I think my 8month old lab/shepherd
has severe problems.

This newsgroup made me realize she is normal.

Her major problem is biting but I'm told labs and
shepherds are both bad for that as puppies.

Tonight I went to answer the phone and she took
my arm and wouldn't let go. I had to hang up as
my arm still has puncture wounds.

Has anyone had this problem?

I think she gets upset that all my attention is not
on her anymore. (I do spend a lot of time with
her and everyone tells me that I spoil her too much)

She also bites when she needs to go outside.

Any suggestions?

------------------------------------------------------------------

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

THAT'S A SYMPTOM OF MENTAL ILLNESS.


BOTH THESE GUYS GOT DEAD DOGS
CAUSE THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE THEIR
Puppy Wizzzard TILL IT WAS TOO LATE.
"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net>
wrote in message news:16990-3CAB1F8C-1@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...

"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net>
wrote in message news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net

============ <"Terri"@cyberhighway

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive
childs since I freely admit to having read and, I
hope, understood enough of the manual and it's
counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of
Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant
barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of
supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had been
posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to
hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our
arms while he was given the needle and having to
hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a
dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that
people that hide behind fake names are more
honest than people that use their real names.

Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have
studied and lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really
stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and
Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because
you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea,
and I don't really care.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day
and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use
and testing. You would never believe the results, so
you'll never know.


I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and
Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get
what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.


Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===============

AND THOSE ARE THE RESULTS OF MENTAL ILLNESS.

Thank you, Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092

The Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW; - ) >

ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?

,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <{}YPW; ~ } >
oo-oo