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HOWEDY Laura,
You can fix that in a few minutes of EZ gentle work. All you gotta do is learn HOWE to distract and praise him when he gets nerveHOWES. But that won't address the cause of his nerveHOWESNESS. That IS curiHOWES, ain't it. Maybe he needed a break. There's lots of techniques you can use to break your dog's anxiHOWESNESS in your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual. That's pretty potent stuff. Could react opposite on him and make him MOORE anxiHOWES. OtherWIZE, it's probably harmless but unnecessary. You can cure his anxiHOWESNESS NEARLY INSTANTLY if you follow the instructions in your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual. You won't be gettin no suggestions from these lying dog abusing punk thug cowards and active long term incurable mental cases and asylum escapees... You been readin these forums??? You're welcome. From: Chris Williams (k9apple@webtv.net) Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel and your family. A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR. She reports far fewer panic problems than she's had before. ============================ Chris Williams writes: "The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what I've always done without thinking of it as "training". New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased the last of Mac's fireworks trauma," ==================== From: Paul B (abcde@clear.net.nz) Subject: Re: dog chewing he paw raw. Date: 2004-01-01 22:19:01 PST "NotGiven" <noname@nonegiven.net> wrote in message news:7j0Jb.5486$kK.2473@bignews3.bellsouth.net... Both my dogs at some stage have licked a spot somewhere on their bodies and I have always managed to train them to stop. In all cases there was nothing wrong that licking would have helped (Roz has had cut pads, stitches in her belly and skin itrritations, all tempting her to lick), none of their licking has been due to any allergies. When I see the dog licking more than normal I look at the spot to see whats there and decide if a vet appointment is needed or to wait and see, keeping a close eye. To stop the licking I distract the dog and give it some friendly banter, when it starts licking again I repeat, usually after about 4 times the dog stops, for the moment at least, if it starts again then repeat, before long the dog has no more desire to lick that spot at all. Paul From: Hennie van Dalen Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11 The same thing worked with my lab licking/chewing problem too. He had an itch due to blocked **** glands and started chewing and licking his tail at the root. After the glands were squeezed, and the itch was gone he still wouldn't stop. (because the place he chewed raw was itching) After some training (roughly the same methode as yours) he stopped. -- Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11 http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/ (h.vandalen11***removethis***@chello.nl) "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWizard@earthlink.net> schreef inbericht news Lpzb.2640$Qd6.1560@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...My dog (a 1 year old Yellow Lab) was biting his tail at the root (Vet said his **** gland was blocked, and was causing an itch). After squeezing it, he still wouldn't stop biting his tail. The vet advised a neck-funnel (don't know wat you US-guy's call those) so he couldn't reach his butt. I hate those things, i think they will drive a dog nuts. I tried the wits end method. (difficult to read such a long textfile if English is not your native language) Luckily this is without all the "HOWE's" etc.so at least it's readable for somebody like me. The minute he started to bite i trew my key's next to him on the floor, and praised him (he stopped biting and looked up when he heard the sound) I did this 7 times, after that the tailbiting completely stopped. Just give the wits end method a try. One of the possible downloadlocations is http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11 =============== "Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis***@chello.nl> wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00... RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for "Read The F***ing Manual" ;-) I used the manual and it works very good! But it is a long text to read (76 pages printed on A4-size paper) My lab is 1year old now, and teaching him something new takes about 30minutes (depending on what to teach offcourse) My other dog (a 7year old staffordshire terrier-mix) is a bit slower in learning, but he is used to me calling him a "bad dog"whenever he did something i didn't want him to do, or it might be the age. Sometimes it looks like Sam (the lab) WANTS to learn something new: he wants me to bring along the can filled with washers whenever we go for a walk. It is a very "humane" way of teaching: the dog is allways a "good dog", and never a "bad dog" There is nu punishment or prong-collars involved. For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog, he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask permission" first, and to my surprise it worked! My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them), maybe this helped too. Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html -- Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11 http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/ ================= From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu) Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST And how do we know this aspect of his advice is right? Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible. His advice could be subject to an empirical ****ysis. --Marshall ================= "Marshall Dermer" <dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@uwm.edu... From: Paul B (NOSPAMpanders@zfree.co.nz) Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST Hello Marshall, The way I view it from my observation of how my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for a second and then will either continue the behaviour or do something else. The praise reassures the dog that the sound distraction is not a threat or punishment, however if everytime the dog resumes a particular behaviour it's distracted immediately (and praised immediately for reassurance) then it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling and it ceases. A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable alternate behaviour is offered. One example, Sam used to jump up on me when I arrived home, I would shake can to distract him right at the moment he was about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of course this was fine so I let it be. While the concept of shake cans is not new, I haven't read any other advice that says to praise immediately regardless of what the dog does next (the common advice is to praise once the dog is doing a desired behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn) and from my own experiences is an important part of the process. "Estel J. Hines" <ejhines@comcast.net> wrote in message news:w86dna9lBfNZgbTdRVn-hA@comcast.com... Nuthin E***CEPT HOWE IT'S DONE. Like a SCRUFF SHAKE, professor? You mean like SCREAMING "NO!" into ITS face for 5 seconds? NO, professor SCRUFF SHAKE. THAT AIN'T HOWE IT WORKS. NO, professor. You don't UNDERSTAND the METHOD. ****-yize THIS, professor SCRUFF SHAKE: Here's professor of ****-ytic behaviorISM research at UofWI marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM "NO!" into ITS face for five seconds and lock IT in a box for ten minutes contemplation" dermer: "At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function. But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases then you will have achieved too things. First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased; and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher. How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted biting. ******IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?******* When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above). "No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog" to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works." That's HOWE COME your dog has OCD behaviors and is deathly ill from The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME. And The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ you can't post here abHOWETS noMOORE cause you're a liar and a dog abuser and a coward and a MENTAL CASE. Here's HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard teaches HIS FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Students to train their critters NEARLY INSTANTLY: "The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior Never Change, Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results For All Handler's And All Dogs, As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual." Disciple Paulie Writes: I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and they always are, always. Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say "good dog" sincerely at the end of the request and I bet you'll find your dog thinking then responding everytime. A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies to every aspect of the relationship with your dog. Obedience and affection are not related, if they were everyone would have obedient dogs. Paul. ======================== Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands How Wits End Training Really Works, They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey And don't Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That Deals With Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built On Trust And Understanding." Two HOWETA three Pauls PREFER NOT HURTIN DOGS as The Puppy Wizard teaches in HIS FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual. Here's two Pauls: Date: 5/22/03 11:24:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: p@cfl.rr.com To: Witsenddog@aol.com Well, let me tell you, your Wits' End Dog Training Method works. My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons around the barbecue on the patio. I used this system on four different occasions. When she went out today, she looked everywhere else but the barbecue. Amazing, just amazing. I will write to Amanda about the video. I am really excited to learn more, and understand. Maybe just a little reassurance that I am going about it the right way. Thanks again Paul ============================= "Ted Rumple" <rumplemint@kalbar.net> wrote in message news:30aa784b.0309290208.135e9ab1@posting.google.c om... -----Original Message----- From: Don Fitz [mailto:donfitz69@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 11:53 a.m. To: Amanda@DCFWatch.com; paulbousie@clear.net.nz Subject: Jerry Howe Hi, Jerry uses your email in his posts and I was wondering what you have to say of his training methods. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Bousie" <paulbousie@clear.net.nz> To: "'Don Fitz'" <donfitz69@hotmail.com>; <Amanda@DCFWatch.com> Cc: <jhowe2@bellsouth.net> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:45 AM Subject: RE: Jerry Howe If you have read the newsgroup posts then you must already have a good idea about what I think. His methods are the best I have come across. They aren't a quick fix but an entire training concept so if you aren't in for the long haul then don't bother. If you go his way then you have to forget all the other gibberish that other people spew, you have to believe in what you are doing, then and only then will you get the results. You can't combine his methods with other training methods, not until you understand what you are trying to achieve, and even then I have only ever combined about 2 other trainers ideas and even then just a snip of what they suggest which works in parallel with the Wits End concept. His methods make you as the trainer completely responsible for your actions, his methods make you think and work out your own solutions for any given situation, the default (the recall) is always there to get things under control again. His ideas and concepts teach you to work with the dog, to develop a team and a willingness to work together which is surely the best way to be. His methods don't use force or intimidation but they do totally emphasize the absolute importance of pack (family pack) structure, without that you can achieve almost nothing. If you are wondering how a dog can be trained without any negativity the answer lies in the recall, anytime your dog doesn't follow through with a request you call him / her to you, since the recall is the first thing taught and it is taught in such a way it becomes a reflex the dog always returns to you, it is a subordinate position for the dog and we release it by asking for a "heel" which is an "equal" position. His methods are very good, his understanding of dogs is excellent, I recommend his methods. Paul Bousie ============== "melisande" <melisande55@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:rLo08.751$0H.535937@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net... It's moore than a chapter, it's a comprehensive, total, complete, gestalt method to train all animals to any level you desire. My methods work faster than any others, anywhere at any price, including the thirty five level of medical grade static like stimulation devices and pronged spiked pinch choke collars our "experts" here love so much. Good. Crates aren't inherently bad, only the way they're misused. Good. I've got a lot in common with folks who are gentle and treat animals kindly. You mean the sound distraction and praise techniques. Yes, one of my students Paul B wrote an excellent post recently I'll include it at the bottom. It'll explain HOWE the distraction and praise process works from his POV as an experience handler using my methods. Why? That should be spontaneous and in association with every glance towards you and every thought. Oh. Patting is O.K., only not in conjunction with a thought or command, as it will interrupt the thought process and may lock the dog's thoughts on an inappropriate idea. It's called positive thigmotaxis, the opposition reflex. Like if we're walking our dog and want to prevent him from interacting with another dog, and we pull back on the collar, that often triggers the dog to go out of control. As long as there's contact on the collar, the dog will continue his original thoughts about interacting with the passerby. Then because the dog is out of control, the handler needs to further force restraint, making communication with the dog's MIND, impossible. Any time your dog is close enough to be patted is fine to pat him, as long as we're not working with a command or thought we want him to process. Yes, it's caused quite a stir here. If my methods are as effective and fast and safe as I claim and my students confirm, that pretty much means that all of my critics are DEAD WRONG, and all's that's left for me to do is shovel some dirt over them over and let 'em push up daisies. =================== On 18 Feb 2003 01:02:05 -0800, javagsd@yahoo.com (Lynn K.) wrote: Hell, if Jerry Howe had simply pointed to his training manual occasionally instead of trying to bludgeon people with his "method", I might have given it a 3rd read to try to find something I could use in there. Maybe not. Lynn K. "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes@easynews.com wrote in message news: 4d94effc.0305311438.5d92388d@posting.google.com... I read through his manual and tried the techniques on my puppy, who looked like growing up to be a mean-assed dog like her daddy. Guess what? It worked. More forceful methods might have allowed me to control her, but I don't think I'd have the exquisitely gentle and well-behaved dog I do now. Charlie -------------------- "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes@easynews.com wrote inmessage news: pjaootcg8dgrptuu96383933eqk2jjp7b2@4ax.com... I read up on rotties, pitbulls, etc., and quite a bit of the literature suggested I needed to assert my dominance and "make the dog earn everything it gets." I tried this once or twice, just by taking a stern tone of voice, and the results were terrible. The pup got scared and just wanted to stay away from me. That's why I support Jerry Howe and his FREE Wits' End Dog Training manual -- that and the fact that Jerry is an all-around great guy. The core takeaway I got from Jerry's manual is this: make yourself the center of your puppy's world -- his personal Lord Jesus. Never give him a reason to fear you or think you're angry. Love the heck out of him, and you'll end up with a great dog. This has truly worked with my puppy. She'll do anything I want her to, if she understands, because she trusts me 100 percent, and nothing is more important in her world than her relationship with me. http://www.geocities.com/viscouspuppy Charlie I came here almost two years ago with an aggressive female pup from hard-core "protection" stock. The message I got from nearly everyone was that I need to show my dog who is boss, draw lines in the sand, absolutely refuse to tolerate this and that. Jerry has a different approach, and he delivered some extremely helpful insights. Now, my dog is not quite two years old, and I could probably put her in some kind of obedience competition against a Fred Hassan dog even though I've had no experience or training whatsoever except Jerry's manual and some personal tips from him that were well worth following. My Holly is an exceedingly well-behaved pet who gets along well with everyone. And I believe Jerry Howe is the best dog resource on the Internet, bar none. Charlie BOTH THESE GUYS GOT DEAD DOGS CAUSE THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE THEIR Puppy Wizzzard TILL IT WAS TOO LATE. "misty" <Momisty@webtv.net> wrote in message news:16990-3CAB1F8C-1@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net... "misty" <Momisty@webtv.net> wrote in message news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net ============ <"Terri"@cyberhighway Robert Crim writes: I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it. This naive child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers. The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp. To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake names are more honest than people that use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and lived by their craft for decades. "Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care. I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll never know. I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right. Yes it was, and that is sad. Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen to the box first?) =============== Thank you, Jerry Howe, Director of Research, BIOSOUND Scientific Director of Training, Wits' End Dog Training 1611 24th St Orlando, FL 32805 Phone: 1-407-425-5092 http://www.doggydoright.com The Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW; - ) > ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES? ,-._,-, V)"(V (_o_) Have a great day! / V) (l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <{}YPW; ~ } > oo-oo |
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HOWEDY Laura,
You can fix that in a few minutes of EZ gentle work. All you gotta do is learn HOWE to distract and praise him when he gets nerveHOWES. But that won't address the cause of his nerveHOWESNESS. That IS curiHOWES, ain't it. Maybe he needed a break. There's lots of techniques you can use to break your dog's anxiHOWESNESS in your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual. That's pretty potent stuff. Could react opposite on him and make him MOORE anxiHOWES. OtherWIZE, it's probably harmless but unnecessary. You can cure his anxiHOWESNESS NEARLY INSTANTLY if you follow the instructions in your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual. You won't be gettin no suggestions from these lying dog abusing punk thug cowards and active long term incurable mental cases and asylum escapees... You been readin these forums??? You're welcome. From: Chris Williams (k9apple@webtv.net) Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel and your family. A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR. She reports far fewer panic problems than she's had before. ============================ Chris Williams writes: "The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what I've always done without thinking of it as "training". New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased the last of Mac's fireworks trauma," ==================== From: Paul B (abcde@clear.net.nz) Subject: Re: dog chewing he paw raw. Date: 2004-01-01 22:19:01 PST "NotGiven" <noname@nonegiven.net> wrote in message news:7j0Jb.5486$kK.2473@bignews3.bellsouth.net... Both my dogs at some stage have licked a spot somewhere on their bodies and I have always managed to train them to stop. In all cases there was nothing wrong that licking would have helped (Roz has had cut pads, stitches in her belly and skin itrritations, all tempting her to lick), none of their licking has been due to any allergies. When I see the dog licking more than normal I look at the spot to see whats there and decide if a vet appointment is needed or to wait and see, keeping a close eye. To stop the licking I distract the dog and give it some friendly banter, when it starts licking again I repeat, usually after about 4 times the dog stops, for the moment at least, if it starts again then repeat, before long the dog has no more desire to lick that spot at all. Paul From: Hennie van Dalen Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11 The same thing worked with my lab licking/chewing problem too. He had an itch due to blocked **** glands and started chewing and licking his tail at the root. After the glands were squeezed, and the itch was gone he still wouldn't stop. (because the place he chewed raw was itching) After some training (roughly the same methode as yours) he stopped. -- Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11 http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/ (h.vandalen11***removethis***@chello.nl) "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWizard@earthlink.net> schreef inbericht news Lpzb.2640$Qd6.1560@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...My dog (a 1 year old Yellow Lab) was biting his tail at the root (Vet said his **** gland was blocked, and was causing an itch). After squeezing it, he still wouldn't stop biting his tail. The vet advised a neck-funnel (don't know wat you US-guy's call those) so he couldn't reach his butt. I hate those things, i think they will drive a dog nuts. I tried the wits end method. (difficult to read such a long textfile if English is not your native language) Luckily this is without all the "HOWE's" etc.so at least it's readable for somebody like me. The minute he started to bite i trew my key's next to him on the floor, and praised him (he stopped biting and looked up when he heard the sound) I did this 7 times, after that the tailbiting completely stopped. Just give the wits end method a try. One of the possible downloadlocations is http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11 =============== "Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis***@chello.nl> wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00... RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for "Read The F***ing Manual" ;-) I used the manual and it works very good! But it is a long text to read (76 pages printed on A4-size paper) My lab is 1year old now, and teaching him something new takes about 30minutes (depending on what to teach offcourse) My other dog (a 7year old staffordshire terrier-mix) is a bit slower in learning, but he is used to me calling him a "bad dog"whenever he did something i didn't want him to do, or it might be the age. Sometimes it looks like Sam (the lab) WANTS to learn something new: he wants me to bring along the can filled with washers whenever we go for a walk. It is a very "humane" way of teaching: the dog is allways a "good dog", and never a "bad dog" There is nu punishment or prong-collars involved. For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog, he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask permission" first, and to my surprise it worked! My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them), maybe this helped too. Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html -- Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11 http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/ ================= From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu) Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST And how do we know this aspect of his advice is right? Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible. His advice could be subject to an empirical ****ysis. --Marshall ================= "Marshall Dermer" <dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@uwm.edu... From: Paul B (NOSPAMpanders@zfree.co.nz) Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST Hello Marshall, The way I view it from my observation of how my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for a second and then will either continue the behaviour or do something else. The praise reassures the dog that the sound distraction is not a threat or punishment, however if everytime the dog resumes a particular behaviour it's distracted immediately (and praised immediately for reassurance) then it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling and it ceases. A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable alternate behaviour is offered. One example, Sam used to jump up on me when I arrived home, I would shake can to distract him right at the moment he was about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of course this was fine so I let it be. While the concept of shake cans is not new, I haven't read any other advice that says to praise immediately regardless of what the dog does next (the common advice is to praise once the dog is doing a desired behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn) and from my own experiences is an important part of the process. "Estel J. Hines" <ejhines@comcast.net> wrote in message news:w86dna9lBfNZgbTdRVn-hA@comcast.com... Nuthin E***CEPT HOWE IT'S DONE. Like a SCRUFF SHAKE, professor? You mean like SCREAMING "NO!" into ITS face for 5 seconds? NO, professor SCRUFF SHAKE. THAT AIN'T HOWE IT WORKS. NO, professor. You don't UNDERSTAND the METHOD. ****-yize THIS, professor SCRUFF SHAKE: Here's professor of ****-ytic behaviorISM research at UofWI marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM "NO!" into ITS face for five seconds and lock IT in a box for ten minutes contemplation" dermer: "At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function. But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases then you will have achieved too things. First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased; and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher. How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted biting. ******IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?******* When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above). "No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog" to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works." That's HOWE COME your dog has OCD behaviors and is deathly ill from The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME. And The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ you can't post here abHOWETS noMOORE cause you're a liar and a dog abuser and a coward and a MENTAL CASE. Here's HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard teaches HIS FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Students to train their critters NEARLY INSTANTLY: "The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior Never Change, Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results For All Handler's And All Dogs, As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual." Disciple Paulie Writes: I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and they always are, always. Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say "good dog" sincerely at the end of the request and I bet you'll find your dog thinking then responding everytime. A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies to every aspect of the relationship with your dog. Obedience and affection are not related, if they were everyone would have obedient dogs. Paul. ======================== Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands How Wits End Training Really Works, They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey And don't Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That Deals With Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built On Trust And Understanding." Two HOWETA three Pauls PREFER NOT HURTIN DOGS as The Puppy Wizard teaches in HIS FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual. Here's two Pauls: Date: 5/22/03 11:24:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: p@cfl.rr.com To: Witsenddog@aol.com Well, let me tell you, your Wits' End Dog Training Method works. My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons around the barbecue on the patio. I used this system on four different occasions. When she went out today, she looked everywhere else but the barbecue. Amazing, just amazing. I will write to Amanda about the video. I am really excited to learn more, and understand. Maybe just a little reassurance that I am going about it the right way. Thanks again Paul ============================= "Ted Rumple" <rumplemint@kalbar.net> wrote in message news:30aa784b.0309290208.135e9ab1@posting.google.c om... -----Original Message----- From: Don Fitz [mailto:donfitz69@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 11:53 a.m. To: Amanda@DCFWatch.com; paulbousie@clear.net.nz Subject: Jerry Howe Hi, Jerry uses your email in his posts and I was wondering what you have to say of his training methods. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Bousie" <paulbousie@clear.net.nz> To: "'Don Fitz'" <donfitz69@hotmail.com>; <Amanda@DCFWatch.com> Cc: <jhowe2@bellsouth.net> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:45 AM Subject: RE: Jerry Howe If you have read the newsgroup posts then you must already have a good idea about what I think. His methods are the best I have come across. They aren't a quick fix but an entire training concept so if you aren't in for the long haul then don't bother. If you go his way then you have to forget all the other gibberish that other people spew, you have to believe in what you are doing, then and only then will you get the results. You can't combine his methods with other training methods, not until you understand what you are trying to achieve, and even then I have only ever combined about 2 other trainers ideas and even then just a snip of what they suggest which works in parallel with the Wits End concept. His methods make you as the trainer completely responsible for your actions, his methods make you think and work out your own solutions for any given situation, the default (the recall) is always there to get things under control again. His ideas and concepts teach you to work with the dog, to develop a team and a willingness to work together which is surely the best way to be. His methods don't use force or intimidation but they do totally emphasize the absolute importance of pack (family pack) structure, without that you can achieve almost nothing. If you are wondering how a dog can be trained without any negativity the answer lies in the recall, anytime your dog doesn't follow through with a request you call him / her to you, since the recall is the first thing taught and it is taught in such a way it becomes a reflex the dog always returns to you, it is a subordinate position for the dog and we release it by asking for a "heel" which is an "equal" position. His methods are very good, his understanding of dogs is excellent, I recommend his methods. Paul Bousie ============== "melisande" <melisande55@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:rLo08.751$0H.535937@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net... It's moore than a chapter, it's a comprehensive, total, complete, gestalt method to train all animals to any level you desire. My methods work faster than any others, anywhere at any price, including the thirty five level of medical grade static like stimulation devices and pronged spiked pinch choke collars our "experts" here love so much. Good. Crates aren't inherently bad, only the way they're misused. Good. I've got a lot in common with folks who are gentle and treat animals kindly. You mean the sound distraction and praise techniques. Yes, one of my students Paul B wrote an excellent post recently I'll include it at the bottom. It'll explain HOWE the distraction and praise process works from his POV as an experience handler using my methods. Why? That should be spontaneous and in association with every glance towards you and every thought. Oh. Patting is O.K., only not in conjunction with a thought or command, as it will interrupt the thought process and may lock the dog's thoughts on an inappropriate idea. It's called positive thigmotaxis, the opposition reflex. Like if we're walking our dog and want to prevent him from interacting with another dog, and we pull back on the collar, that often triggers the dog to go out of control. As long as there's contact on the collar, the dog will continue his original thoughts about interacting with the passerby. Then because the dog is out of control, the handler needs to further force restraint, making communication with the dog's MIND, impossible. Any time your dog is close enough to be patted is fine to pat him, as long as we're not working with a command or thought we want him to process. Yes, it's caused quite a stir here. If my methods are as effective and fast and safe as I claim and my students confirm, that pretty much means that all of my critics are DEAD WRONG, and all's that's left for me to do is shovel some dirt over them over and let 'em push up daisies. =================== On 18 Feb 2003 01:02:05 -0800, javagsd@yahoo.com (Lynn K.) wrote: Hell, if Jerry Howe had simply pointed to his training manual occasionally instead of trying to bludgeon people with his "method", I might have given it a 3rd read to try to find something I could use in there. Maybe not. Lynn K. "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes@easynews.com wrote in message news: 4d94effc.0305311438.5d92388d@posting.google.com... I read through his manual and tried the techniques on my puppy, who looked like growing up to be a mean-assed dog like her daddy. Guess what? It worked. More forceful methods might have allowed me to control her, but I don't think I'd have the exquisitely gentle and well-behaved dog I do now. Charlie -------------------- "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes@easynews.com wrote inmessage news: pjaootcg8dgrptuu96383933eqk2jjp7b2@4ax.com... I read up on rotties, pitbulls, etc., and quite a bit of the literature suggested I needed to assert my dominance and "make the dog earn everything it gets." I tried this once or twice, just by taking a stern tone of voice, and the results were terrible. The pup got scared and just wanted to stay away from me. That's why I support Jerry Howe and his FREE Wits' End Dog Training manual -- that and the fact that Jerry is an all-around great guy. The core takeaway I got from Jerry's manual is this: make yourself the center of your puppy's world -- his personal Lord Jesus. Never give him a reason to fear you or think you're angry. Love the heck out of him, and you'll end up with a great dog. This has truly worked with my puppy. She'll do anything I want her to, if she understands, because she trusts me 100 percent, and nothing is more important in her world than her relationship with me. http://www.geocities.com/viscouspuppy Charlie I came here almost two years ago with an aggressive female pup from hard-core "protection" stock. The message I got from nearly everyone was that I need to show my dog who is boss, draw lines in the sand, absolutely refuse to tolerate this and that. Jerry has a different approach, and he delivered some extremely helpful insights. Now, my dog is not quite two years old, and I could probably put her in some kind of obedience competition against a Fred Hassan dog even though I've had no experience or training whatsoever except Jerry's manual and some personal tips from him that were well worth following. My Holly is an exceedingly well-behaved pet who gets along well with everyone. And I believe Jerry Howe is the best dog resource on the Internet, bar none. Charlie BOTH THESE GUYS GOT DEAD DOGS CAUSE THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE THEIR Puppy Wizzzard TILL IT WAS TOO LATE. "misty" <Momisty@webtv.net> wrote in message news:16990-3CAB1F8C-1@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net... "misty" <Momisty@webtv.net> wrote in message news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net ============ <"Terri"@cyberhighway Robert Crim writes: I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it. This naive child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers. The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp. To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake names are more honest than people that use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and lived by their craft for decades. "Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care. I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll never know. I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right. Yes it was, and that is sad. Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen to the box first?) =============== Thank you, Jerry Howe, Director of Research, BIOSOUND Scientific Director of Training, Wits' End Dog Training 1611 24th St Orlando, FL 32805 Phone: 1-407-425-5092 http://www.doggydoright.com The Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW; - ) > ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES? ,-._,-, V)"(V (_o_) Have a great day! / V) (l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <{}YPW; ~ } > oo-oo |
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