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1 9th August 02:22
wardmanager
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HOWEDY bringmewater,

You can't.

Dogs and preverbal children do not have the
capacity to understand the meaning of "NO!".
All tellin them "NO!" does is make them fear
and hate you and adds value to the behavior.

HOWEver, you CAN E***TINGUISH ANY behavior
NEARLY INSTANTLY using praise in advance
and effective non physical scientific and
psychological distraction and praise con-
ditioning techniques as taught in your own
FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual <{); ~ ) >

OtherWIZE you'll end up lookin like THIS:

Aggression, Opposition And Allelomimetic Behavior -
Teaching RESPECT For Your HIGHER INTELLIGENCE -
"BAD DOG ALWAYS WORKS!!!"

Here's professor SCRUFF SHAKE:

Mine will go "bonkers" if he has been exercise deprived.

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: new puppy bitting/chewing hands
Date: 1999/07/05
In article <976F54CA8C2C77AB.9DF245927D0DAB8B.90BA464FE454E.. .@lp.airnews.net


At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral
function. But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy
by its neck and shake it a bit, and the frequency
of the biting decreases then you will have achieved
too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has
decreased; and two, you have established "No"
as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted biting.

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before
mild forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's
mouth closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad
Dog" came before stronger punishement (the
kind discussed above).

My dog is about 1.5 years old. "No" is usually
sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog" to
stop a behavior.

"Bad Dog" ALWAYS works.

then, of course, quickly say "Good Dog" when
he is appropriately behaving.

In providing verbal punishment and reinforcement
as in using nonverbal punishement and reinforcement,
timing is very important.

Use these consquences to control behavior much
as in the game where a child is told "your getting hot"
or "your getting cold." If the delay between the behavior
and the consquence is too long then the behavior will
not appropriately change.

--Marshall

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Update on Puppy Biting Date: 1999/06/14
In article <37675817.19034...@news3.bga.com> clayn@NO_JUNKdillonet.com writes: :


Distraction can be a BIG mistake! Why? Because if
your manipulation of the chew toy is reinforcing then
you are inadvertently reinforcing your dog for biting if
you follow his biting with activating the chew toy.

The standard way to curtail biting is to either "yelp
loudly," "clamp the dog's mouth shut with your hand,"
or "pick him up by the scruff of his neck" and say "no"
whenever he bites.

All of these are punishment procedures and
to work they must be put into place promptly,
within say .5 sec, after the bite.

Isolating the dog after a bite is another form
of punishment called time-out (from reinforcement
but it is hard to rapidly implement--within .5
sec of a bite.

If one of these procedures does not work, that is,
your dog behaves as if it were a game, then you
are not using an effective punisher/procedure.

Well, be patient.

You can, of course, use differential reinforcement
of other behavior to eliminate biting. If there is a
situation in which your dog often bites. then create
the situation and if your dog goes without biting for
1 sec. offer a reinforcer (click and treat if you use
a clicker).

Then gradually increase the time that your dog
must go without biting for the reinforcer to be
delivered. Eventually, your dog will not bite and
the other behaviors that you have been reinforcing
will be more frequent.

Another factor to consider is whether your dog
is getting sufficient exercise.

Mine will go "bonkers" if he has been exercise deprived.

Best wishes,

Marshall

"Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap,"
professora gingold.

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will
Seem Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe.
This Is A Normal Reaction The First Few Times
It Happens, But You'll Get Over It." mike duforth,
author: "Courteous Canine."

"I have heard advice stating that you should
pre-load your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work
as efficiently as possible. What does this mean?

When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first
time, spray one squirt directly into the dog's mouth
and walk away. The dog won't be too thrilled with
this but just ignore him and continue your normal
behavior." --Mike Dufort author of the zero selling
book "Courteous Canines"

Dogs is dumb critters. You CANNOT teach a pre
verbal child or dumb critter the MEANING of
ANY THING on accHOWENT of they CAN'T UNDERSTAND
the MEANING of "NO!", bringmewater.

THAT'S HOWE COME DOG LOVERS and PARENTS ABUSE
their innocent children and dumb animals, bringmewater.

THAT'S HOWE COME dogs and children GET behavior
and temperament problems, bringmewater.

Tellin a dumb critter or innocent child "NO!"
only INTIMIDATES and makes them FEAR and MISTRUST
you and teaches them that whatever you're trying
to PROTECT them from is VERY WORTH GETTING when
you turn your back on them and teaches them to
DO LIKEWIZE when they get afraid or an***IHOWES
and run HOWETA ideas and information and got to
resort to pain fear force and intimidation.

THAT'S HOWE COME DOGS EAT POISON and TURN ON THEIR
ABUSERS and GET DEAD, bringmewater <{); ~ ) >

We've been through this with EVERY DEAD DOG we've
enterTRAINED TO DEATH RIGHT HERE bringmewater.

You and your punk thug coward mental case pals
just continue to IGNORE the CASE HISTORY DATA
and SCIENTIFIC DO***ENTATION PROVING every thing
The Amazing Puppy Wizard and HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Students ALL OVER The WHOWE
WILD WORLD SEZ who TOLD YOU HOWE they done it EZ
GENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY and FOR FREE, to boot <{); ~ ) >

But you bums PREFER to HURT and INTIMDIATE your
dogs so NUTHIN can train them on accHOWENT of
ALL behavior problems are CAUSED by your mistaken
ignorant viciHOWES cruel Sadistic methods to force
bribe avoid and intimidate your dogs JUST LIKE HOWE
you do your children AND IT DON'T WORK but THAT'S
ALL YOU KNOW and anything DIFFERENT like 100% CONSISTENT
NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS by NOT DOIN NUTHIN that you do
WORKS LIKE FREAKIN MAGICK ONLY BETTER but you gotta
STOP HURTING your dogs and you CAN'T on accHOWENT of
THAT DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN CON-TROLL and THAT
REALLY PISSES YOU PIGS OFF, don't it. BWEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAAAA!!!


BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAAA!!!

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.
- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.

Lynn K.

"The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
may acquire those rights which never could have been
withholden from them
but by the hand of tyranny.

The question is not can they REASON,
nor can they TALK,
but can they SUFFER?" -
- Jeremy Bentham

"Thank you for fighting the fine fight-
-even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.

The Puppy Wizard sez

"A dog is a dog as a child is a child. They only
respond in PREDICTABLE NORMAL NATURAL
INNATE INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE ways to
situations and cir***stances of their environment
which we create for them.

ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING. Damn The Descartean War of
"Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words
And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME SAME
SAME, For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS. <"Terri"@cyberhighway


Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people that
use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante
dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than
those that have studied and lived by their craft for
decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll never know.


I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)
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2 9th August 19:05
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Default How to teach NO



HOWEDY kwbrown,

YOU MURDERED YOUR OWN DEAD DOG ****a on accHOWENT
of you couldn't stop jerkin an chokin an shockin IT. REMEMBER?


YOU MURDERED YOUR OWN DEAD DOG ****a on accHOWENT
of you couldn't stop jerkin an chokin an shockin IT.

MOST of the E***PERTS givin him ADVICE HAVE likeWIZE
MURDERED THEIR OWN DEAD DOGS on accHOWENT of THE SAME
SAME SAME SAME REASON <{); ~ ) >


You MENTAL CASES told bringmewater NOT to get two same aged pups.

"WATER SEEKS IT'S OWN LEVEL". BWEEEEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!


THAT will tell you sumpthin...


Like HOWE you got?


Oh, you mean bein POLITE.


YOU MURDERED YOUR OWN DEAD DOG ****a on accHOWENT of
you couldn't stop jerking choking and shockin IT JUST
LIKE HOWE diddler and janet boss and racetrack silly have done.

We should always PLAY NICE.


Ahh, he didn't WANT that...


On accHOWENT of being the pathetic mental cases
you are you won't be able to NOT respond and
EMBARRASS yourselves in the process when The
Amazing Puppy Wizard comes along draggin your
POSTED CASE HISTORIES of HURTING INTIMIDATING
SHOCKING CHOKING BRIBING CRATING and MURDERING
YOUR OWN INNOCENT DEAD DOGS, like ****a FOR E***AMPLE.


diane is a MENTAL CASE, like yourself.


INDEEDY. diane was amongst the first to organize
COMPLAIN TO The Amazing Puppy Wizard's ISP's on
accHOWENT of HE DON'T HURT INTIMIDATE and MURDER
dogs like you and your punk thug coward mental case pals.


INDEED. "Birds of a feather."


So of curse you're gonna offer him the HEELP he
NEEDS so he DON'T MURDER HIS OWN DOG LIKE HOWE
YOU MURDERED YOUR OWN DEAD DOG ****a.


YOU MURDERED YOUR DEAD DOG ****a to teach her the "NO!" command.


"KWBrown" <arfenarfNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns94FD59F06AF48arfenarfhotmailcom@130.133.1. 4...

Well, there's competitors and then again, there's competitors.

You mean, cause you don't know HOWE to
train a dog withHOWET HURTIN IT.


Well that's INSANE.


Sez HOWER mentally ill koehler / shock collar contingient.

The discussions are OVER. Clicker training
fails cause you're bribing and withholding
bribes and attention and any stimuls is gonna
override that stinkin weenie you're bribin IT with.


No, you're a dog abuser a liar and a dog murderer.

Ask your own DEAD DOG ****a.


You've got no right hurting and murdering
dogs as you've done. The Amazing Puppy
Wizard told you three years ago you'd
MURDER that DEAD DOG ****a like you
just done a couple months ago.


It's all being indellibly inscribed in The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's Archive on Google, no need to whisper.


And you used a needle with poison in it
to MURDER your DEAD DOG ****a.

Whoopie. HOWE MANY DEAD DOGS does
it take till a little girl like you with a clicker
and weenie gets a real hunting dog trained to HUNT?

You mean like lying frosty dahl and lying
"I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn and susan fraser
and sinofabitch and the rest of these lyin
dog abusing mental cases do?


INDEEDY! And you GOT A DEAD DOG to show for it.

You mean, that syringe full of blue juice?


You mean dogman. tommy soronson. joey finnochiario. lyingdogDUMMY.

You think HURTIN dogs to train them is
a matter of FEELINS???

You mean, cause you're not AFRAID of
the agility behavior problems?

You mean, the same handler that just
murdered your own DEAD DOG ****a?

You mean yourself, don't you.

What was your body language when you
MURDERED your own DEAD DOG ****a
cause you wouldn't stop HURTING her?

Subject: Re: When is euth. warranted?
Date: 2004-02-04 10:43:42 PST HOWEDY kwbrown,
"KWBrown" <arfenarfNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns94844CFCECFD4arfenarfNOSPAMhotmai@130.133. 1.4...

Any dog is subject to DEFENDING hisself from ABUSE.
<snip diddler's IDIOCY>


Sudden RAGE is CAUSED by HURTING and INTIMIDATING your dogs.


Pehaps that's on accHOWENT of you ABUSE them.


CAUSE ABUSERS DENY THEIR ABUSE, kwbrown.


INDEEDY. That's CAUSED by withholding bribes
and RELYING ON pain fear force and intimidation.


AIN'T NO SUCH THING IN DOGS, it's only in HUMANS.

INDEEDY! IT DOESN'T EXIST unless you ABUSE the dog.

ALL AGGRESSION IS FEAR.

Like when you MURDERED YOUR DOG.
You did it cause you're a natural born coward and dog abuser.

It's an OCD behavior problem CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
ALL OCD'S ARE CAUSED BY MISHANDING.


Only difference is the dog isn't bein HURT or
INTIMIDATED at the moment IT REMEMBERS
HIS ABUSE and his "victim" doesn't NEED to BE his ABUSER.


RIGHT. ****a was ABUSED since DAY WON,
and WE CAN PROVE IT through your own postin
history right here in The Puppy Wizard's Archives.


NO. She was owned and abused by a PSYCHOPATH.


You mean you could FORCE and INTIMIDATE her
enough to CONTROL HER when you was standing
there ready to HURT and INTIMDATE her someMOORE.


She became MOORE MISTRUSTFUL as YOU ABUSED
HER MOORE and MOORE according to the ADVICE of
HOWER DOG LOVERS HERE.

BWEEEHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

Perhaps that jerking and choking on your pronged
spiked pinch choke collar and shocking and locking
IT in a box to AVOID sitations you couldn't HURT
your dog for, is what CAUSED her to become MOORE
FEAR AGGRESSIVE.

ALL AGGRESSION IS FEAR.

NO. There was NUTHIN WRONG with ****a
that NOT ABUSING her wouldn't CURE, NEARLY INSTANTLY.


****a had been ABUSED since DAY WON.


You mean "Springer DISPLACED FEAR AGGRESSION."


INDEEDY. We're lookin at a NORMAL DOG
owned and abused by a PSYCHOPATH.


You mean, lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn?
SHE'S A CERTIFIED BONAFIDE MENTAL
CASE, PATHOLOGICAL LIAR, and DOG
ABUSER:

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver: For barking in
the crate - leave the leash on and pass it through the crate
door. Attach a line to it. When he barks, use the line for
a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
Lynn K.

The Puppy Wizard has NEVER MURDERED
a dog for BAD BEHAVIOR. But you did. And
so do your pals here:


Well Soup is RIGHT again.

"MOSTLY" doesn't cut it.


You CHOSE to HURT and INTIMIDATE your
DEAD DOG like your MENTALLY ILL PALS:

WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg Of Lithium And 50 mg Of Zoloft Every Day
For Twenty Years
I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM

"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-depression)
requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day.
I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to learn more,
while happily sharing pertinent information I have learned.

But if I were ever to post such sh*t, I would hope that every
other reader of this group would be rightfully outraged."

"Community is an evolutionary thing that we earn
the right to participate in by observing the easily
understood rules and contributing to in constructive ways."
Lynn K.

As you progressively INTIMIDATED and HURT HER.

That's INSANE. Kids got no MOORE right to
living in safety than your carpenter or plumber
or any other visitor to your HOWES.

THAT'S CAUSE YOU HURT AND INTIMIDATED HER.


The Puppy Wizard intends to make HURTING
dogs and children ILLEGAL.


BWEEHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!

LIARS DOG ABUSERS AND CERTIFIED MENTAL
CASES CANNOT TALK ABHOWET MORALS
ETHICS PRINCIPLES or COMMON HUMAN DECENCY.

YOU HURT YOUR DOG AND THAT'S HOWE COME
YOU NEEDED TO MURDER IT.


The LIABILITY of HURTING DOGS is your CHOICE to risk.

BWEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

THAT'S HOWE COME YOU HURT
HER IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!


SHE COPIED YOUR ACTIONS AND ATTITUDES.


PROVEN BY YOUR OWN WORDS indellibly
archived forver in The Puppy Wizard's Archives..


IT'S PROVEN IN YOUR OWN WRITING.


We don't gotta SEE a DOG ABUSER ABUSING
the dog they write abHOWET ABUSING. We
CAN'T SEE a BEHAVIOR the dog is THINKING.

WE KNOW HOWE COME DOGS TURN ON THEIR ABUSERS, kwbrown.

YEARS OF MISHANDLING AND ABUSE
as PROVEN by your own posting history, kw.

That's cause SUDDEN DISPLACES RAGE SYNDROME
only happens to 10% of HOWER DEAD DOGS... same
same as OCD behavior problems only happens to 10%
of HOWER MOST SENSITIVE DOGS.


AND SO YOU HURT and INTIMIDATED HER TO DEATH.

BWEEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

The Puppy Wizard routinely rehabilitates dogs
all over the Whole Wild World JUST LIKE ****a,
NEARLY INSTANTLY, withHOWET HURTIN THEM,
from settin right here, stark ravin nekkid.

FOR FREE.

YOU CHOSE TO HURT and MURDER YOUR DEAD DOG.


Care to DIS-CUSS your "training???," kwbrown?
You already have, in The Puppy Wizard's Archives.


BRIBERY INCREASES ANXIETY.

BWEEEEEHAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!

YOU'LL GET OVER IT, like mikey d sez:

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will
Seem Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe.
This Is A Normal Reaction The First Few Times
It Happens, But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth,
author: "Courteous Canine."

You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING is COURTEOUS?


No, GROOMIN didn't MURDER YOUR DOG.
HOWE you handled IT when you groomed IT
did HOWEver, make your dog FEARFUL
and MISTRUSTFUL, so you MURDERED
YOUR DOG cause THAT'S the nature of
a NATURAL BORN COWARD.


You smacked and further intimidated your
DEAD DOG when SHE SCARED YOU
while you was pinching and pulling her
matted coat. WE E***PECT TO GET
BIT when we DO THAT.


In the end YOU BLAMED THE DOG and MURDERED IT.

INDEEDY! Just like Rober Crim... E***CEPT
HE REFUSED TO REPEAT HIS MISTAKES.


Here's HOWE COME kwbrown MURDERE her
DEAD DOG ****a: HOWEDY kwbrown,
"KWBrown" <arfenarfNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9484493D720ABarfenarfNOSPAMhotmai@130.133. 1.4...


INDEED? You mean THIS?: "Don't Let Your Dog
Scream. Use Your Hand To Hold His Muzzle
Closed And Tell Him To Quit Moaning," cindymooreon.


Perhaps that's on accHOWENT of The Puppy Wizard.


And you won't be able t o read Master Of Deception
blankman's viciHOWES web pages pretty soon, either.


too.

INDEEDY! What a recommendation!


You JUST MURDERED your own DEAD DOG
on accHOWENT of THEIR E***PERT ADVICE!

Here's HOWE COME:

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch Right,
Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They Have A Very
Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse Into A Heap. About
The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep The Pressure Up," sindy
"don't let the dog SCREAM" mooreon, author of HOWER
FAQ's pages on k9 web.

You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to MAKE
IT HUNT is NECESSARY???

"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It A Sharp Tap
Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know Jack Wouldn't HaveDone
It If He Thought Solo Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him
Because Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.

You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?

Subject: "Don't Let Your Dog Scream. Use Your Hand
To Hold His Muzzle Closed And Tell Him To Quit Moaning,"
cindymooreon.

Hey, check it out? Here's our cindy "Don't Let Your Dog
Scream" mooreon's forced fetch page, the one she refused to
discuss and threatened to sue us for quoting from. So here it
is in full. Barf warning.
"Cindy" <tit...@io.com> wrote in message news:C80%7.207860$m05.17713518@bin5.nnrp.aus1.giga news.com...

Yes. You only feel good when you're hurting something.

Looks can be deceiving like your pronged spiked pinch choke
collar. HOWE can we know what a dog feels? You bums want a new
definition for hurt. We got to have broken bones or blistered
skin to have hurt.

myself.

No doubt. Sadists and cowards only enjoy inflicting pain.


Below is your forced fetch page... Hello cindymooreon,
"Cindy" <tit...@io.com> wrote in message news:M%eY7.109765$m05.9709385@bin5.nnrp.aus1.gigan ews.com...

I wouldn't bet on that.

That's usually a result of ANXITY from being punished for jumping or mouthing.

That's nice of them. Birdies can cause a lot of damage to a dog's eyes.


Yeah. You prefer they don't.


Ever play ball with a dog?


Yeah. That's HOWE COME cindymooreon likes to twist and pinch
ears and toes and chuck and cuff and shock dogs to make them do that.

That's pinched choked shocked and beaten into them.


That's pinched choked shocked and beaten outta them.

Visual oral reflex.

Because if they don't play they get jerked and choked and
shocked and beaten till they do play. And they get hung if
they object to their training.


Yeah. Like your pal lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn's flunkie sar dog Jive...

Hey, check it out? Here's your forced fetch page, the one you
refused to discuss and threatened to sue us for quoting from.
So here it is in full.
Thanks for the FUN:

Here's MOORE reasons why our Gang Of Thugs are EMBARRASSED by
their own works. Here's the post cindymooreon of our faqs page
at k9web threatened to sue us for copyright infringement if we
quoted it:

What is Force Fetching All About?

by Cindy Tittle Moore
Copyright 1997,1998 by the
author; all rights reserved.

THE FORCE FETCH

Alright! Now you are (finally) ready to force fetch your dog.
I repeat, you want to have an experienced person help you out,
someone who has already force fetched her own dogs whether for
obedience or field. This step in the training entails what is
termed avoidance behavior. In a nutshell, the dog is taught
how to "turn off" a negative stimulus. He is carefully taught
that he has complete control over it.

This is a very effective way of teaching, but does
require a more astute sense of timing than some other training
methods and is very difficult for some people to do, for a
variety of reasons. However, if the dog properly knows HOLD at
this point, it's easily done with a minimum of fuss.

Return to your quiet starting place, with the dog on a collar
and leash in front of you, sitting quietly. Instead of opening
his mouth as you have been for the HOLD, put your hand through
the dog's collar (to hold him steady) and with your thumb and
forefinger pinch

the tip of his ears and say TAKE IT (or FETCH, or whatever
you want) Watch his mouth closely -- the moment he opens his
mouth, pop that dumbbell in, let go of his ear but not the
collar, and PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE. Do this three or four times
per session.

When he is opening his mouth in anticipation of the dumbbell,
the next step is to hold the dumbbell just past his lips. This
next step is for him to move his head forward that inch (or
half inch) necessary to get the dumbbell. At this point, he
has a pretty good notion that getting that darned thing into
his mouth is the way to turn off the ear pinch. Most dogs will
lean forward and get it. That's his second milestone! Praise,
praise, praise and repeat three or four times this session.
Remember, I said these sessions were no more than 5 minutes or
so each. That's still true.

Gradually extend the distance so he has to reach further to
get it. Now here is where a few subtleties come into play.
It's not enough for him to merely reach out and grab it. You
want him to commit to getting it. You want him to be intent on
getting it. If he sort of limply reaches over and gets it,
that's not what you want. If you pinch him but have to drag
him toward the dumbbell, that's not what you want either.
We're back to the visualization.

What do you want him to do? You want him to, if necessary,
bust through just about anything to get that dumbbell. So hold
on to that collar until you feel him pulling out of it to get
that. That's his committment.

You want to say TAKE IT and have him just about explode out to
get the dumbbell. As you get further along in this, you will
release him when he's made a good committment -- this will
help shape a speedy response nicely. I think you can see why
it helps to have an experienced person around when you are
doing this! It can be difficult to keep all these things in
mind when you are actually sitting there with a dog in your
hands.

About the ear pinch: You must keep the pressure up until the
instant he has the dumbbell securely in his mouth. Many people
have problems getting the pinch right, either they do not
pinch enough, or they have a very stoic dog in which case case
a collar may be needed to help make the pinch more effective.
Also some dogs are screamers, and if they find that they can
stop the pinching by screaming, they've learned the avoidance
technique just fine -- but not with the behavior you had in
mind!

Don't let your dog scream. Use your hand to hold his muzzle
closed and tell him to quit moaning. Some dogs will collapse
into a heap. Don't let them do that, that's why your hand is
in the collar. Hold them up and get them back into a sitting
position. What your dog is doing is trying to find other ways
of avoiding the ear pinch.

You need to be firm and consistent and demonstrate that
getting the dumbbell is the only means of avoidance.

Remember to keep him under control. When he gets that dumbbell
in his mouth, pull him gently around back to you and sit him
back down. You may in fact want to sit him at your side in the
heel position (whether or not he actually knows the heel
position), hold the dumbbell in front of him, command him to
take it and then pull him back to a front or finish position
as you wish. The pattern will do him good later.

The next major milestone is putting the dumbbell on the ground
for him to pick up. For many dogs this can be a big deal and
may be difficult. Set the dumbbell on the ground just in front
of them, with your hand on the dumbbell. He may not reach for
it, he may refuse -- keep up the ear pressure until he finally
picks it up. If he really doesn't seem to understand this,
then break this down into an intermediate step where you hold
the dumbbell, but about 1/2 way between the ground and his
mouth.

Once he's picked the dumbbell off the ground, that's a major
milestone and you are just about home free.

As before slowly place the dumbbell further away on the ground
in front of him. Make sure he is pulling out of your hold on
the collar before you let him pick the dumbbell up. If he
drops the dumbbell from this point on, you will get control
of him (put him in a sit with a firm hold on his collar) and
pinch him back to the dumbbell -- he can pick it up now so
there is no need for you to put it in his mouth any more. HE
is the one responsible for getting it.

When he is reliably picking up the dumbbell a few feet from
you, then you can stop using the pinch at the beginning of the
exercise.

You will instead reserve it for when he drops the dumbbell or
refuses to pick it up, etc. So for example, you might go out,
place the dumbbell 6 feet away, put the long lead on him, tell
him to take it. Let's say he hesitates and doesn't go out.
Then you pinch, force him to commit, send him to the dumbbell.
Let's say he goes and gets it, but starts playing with it.
Pull him in, and if he hasn't already dropped the dumbbell,
take it out of his mouth, put it back where it was, and pinch
him to it.

There is one last problem you need to watch for. Many dogs,
especially retrievers, will start pouncing on the dumbbell
once they are able to run out a few steps to it before picking
it up. So transition to this point with a long cotton lead
about 20-30 feet long.

With this you can spin him round the moment he scoops up the
dumbbell, teaching him that he cannot play with it. If your
dog drops the dumbbell, use the lead to pull him back to you
(do not let him try to pick it up), and pinch him back to it.
the basic rule of thumb is that if he drops it, he will be
pinched back to it regardless.

Thoughts to Consider

Force fetching is never completely done, per se (as with any
exercise taught to a dog). You may need to do a refresher
course when it's something new to pick up, or if it's
something disgusting (like a very dead bird) to pick up. He
may also start to get lazy, you need to keep an eye on him.
You may also realize you omitted some step in training him
that shows up later so you will have to go back and fix it.

But you should also take care to make sure he doesn't forget
any of these hard-earned lessons! Make him carry things for
you. He can carry his own ball out to the park. He can carry
his own utility articles to the ring. He can help you carry a
light bag of groceries into the house. He can help you carry
firewood. They will just love this, and it's a good way to
keep the talents honed. Use it!
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HOWEDY diddler,


BARKING is a SYMPTOM of SUMPTHIN WRONG. You CANNOT IGNORE
your dog when he barks and you CANNOT REPRESS normal natural
innate instinctive reflexive behaivors or you'll make the
dog DEATHLY ILL JUST LIKE HOWE MOST of HOWER DOG LOVER'S
dogs are sufferin from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASES
aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME <{); ~ ) >.

Of curse. That's NORMAL when you lock a dog in
a box and restrict food water and schedule breaks
and feeding and TELL DOGS "NO!" for DOIN STUFF.


You mean anyHOWE <{); ~ ) >

After all, these ARE The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Forums
and School Of HARD KNOCKS and HUMAN BEHAVIOR
RESEARCH LABORATORIES <{); ~ ) >

Yeah, that's where HOWER DOG LOVERS go to talk abHOWET their TRAGEDIES...


Duh? He was told not to try to raise two same
age same *** puppys... DESPITE that's JUST WHAT
The Amazing Puppy Wizard tells folks to DO, if
THAT'S HOWE they PREFER.

INDEEDY.

Raising two same aged dogs is EZier than WON at a time.

He got to go see The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) >


No it AIN'T, diddler. The software is workin PERFECKTLEY.

You just don't know HOWE to compute shoot strangle noose
leg hold snare trap bludgeon inject poison gas poison or
even track straight, diddler <{); ~ ) >

Here's diddler at her best.

"Let's just say it was UGLY"

"Franticly And Desperately Demanding To Go Out,
I Finally Put Her In The barn, Locked Securely In A
Horse Stall For The Night," diddler

"My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing Up
Trash. USING FOOTHOLD TRAPS IN THE SNOW I
FIND, IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE"

WHEN YOU CAN'T FIND ANY CATS TO SHOOT,
SHOOT HUNGRY DOGS INSTEAD FOR GETTING
IN THE GARBAGE:

diddy (d...@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Oh My God

Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is
fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and
listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent
the night franticly** and desperately demanding to go out.

After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
securely in a horse stall for the night.

She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.

At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
was not going to be tolerated.

This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
(normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
(not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
confinement.)

I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of blood on
the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.

That blood didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..
and corresponding coyote breeding season.

Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.
She had blood (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh.

I had her at the vets office this morning before he
opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched
up with huge air pockets.

Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I
said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard
that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather
because she was chewing it. That would explain
EVERYTHING.

The strings are binding and bunching up her intestines,
cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as
it works its way through.

Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to
require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant
afford. I will manage.

Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical
for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have
treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a
clue that she was sick. I feel so badly.
--
diddy

==============================*====

From: diddy (d...@diddy.net)
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK

Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way
I would react. There would be none left standing
to deal with the threat just in case.

If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
continents stop me from pursuing justice.

Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If
someone is feeding his dog outside, his own
dog might not mean THAT much to him.

If he was feeding his dog outside though, many
dogs are food aggressive, and that could most
certainly spark a dog aggression thing.

(and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what
was it doing in his yard?)

I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
horses and called him to help me find it. I would
do the same for threatening my dog.

My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
trash up and down our road for years making an
unbelievable mess.

When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
cheered. Animal control had never been able in
years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)

------------------------------*---

From: diddy
(d...@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet ownership.

I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes, Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.

To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will not
look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has never
been harmed by any of the dogs. Danny is there all the
time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.

------------------------------*-------------------------

From: diddy (d...@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: cats : Crating/Caging: What constitutes abuse?
Date: 2002-08-23 09:18:08 PST Lyn wrote:

Here it would be abuse. If you like your cat you keep it
home. I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance
animal trapline.

This morning there was a cat in a snare. Ordinarily,
an animal caught in a snare can be released unharmed.
One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes (and the
complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats)

Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals,
to me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they
can't become lunch.. whatever.

Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped,
and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it's
intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the
diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the
spine) around the waist area.

This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to extricate this ca**t
was exceedingly difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because
I feared damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I
imagined this cat was not likely to survive.

It would have been much simpler to dispatch the unfortunate
cat and take out the dead body. Instead, this cat wore a
collar. it deserved a chance, and the owner deserved closure**.
(no id on the collar) .

It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be taken t**o
the vet for examination. I will probably never know if this
particular cat survives the experience or not.

People in the area were aware that trapping was being done a**nd
apparently still let their cats run free, b oth endangered b**y
the traps and by the coyotes being targeted that are causing** a
problem with their cat population.

Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have tri**ed
to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have been **a
kindness, but then... cats weren't supposed to be attracted **to
this type of trap, in this position, and then they weren't
supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this situation.
If you like your pet, you keep them home. ==============================*========
"diddy" <d...@nospam.diddy.net> wrote in message news:Xns9554DA8F98950danny@216.196.97.142...


diddy wrote:

I certainly was NOT going to keep him, Nor was
I going to throw him away. I was going to go the
distance and get him back home (we fixed some
other problems while he was here) He's now a
happy and great dog, although I wasn't so fond
of him when he first came, and although we grew
close, the whole experience was not among my
fondest memories, until the end.

I needed to redirect his energies. He used escape for
entertainment. Once I gave him very many jobs to do,
and taught him LOTS of positive job skills to redirect
his energies. Once he found positive alternatives, he
finally forgot his negative behaviors which were severely
entrenched by the time I got him.

The first 6 months were awful for both of us.
------------------------------*-------------------

All the "awful"-ness was caused by diddy. Just as all
the awfulness of the blood coming out of Reka's rectum
was caused by diddy and her INSANE need to prevent
her dog with "getting away" with anything (such as telling
diddy she was deathly ill).

Only she led you to believe that she was the hero. Kind2dogs wrote:


diddy wrote:

I think 4 hours or so, I had put him in a supposedly
"Secure" place, while I had to leave. When I got
home, he had trashed my house. From then on,
when I left, he got put in the horse stall.

He trashed my horse stall.

He then got a new horse stall, wore a E-collar,
I electrified the perimeter of the stall and we
were finally able to contain him while we worked
on his escape problems.

Once he learned that I was more determined to
defeat him, he finally subdued. But escaping, to
him was a game.

Both of us had a throughly miserable time during
the stand off. The dog is actually now a very good
citizen. He just had to meet someone more determined,
and stubborn and willing to go the distance to do what it
took, before he would stop.

Like I said, I thought he and I were going
to grow old together.

I am not going to go into exactly where we
went before we got that accomplished.

Let's just say it was "ugly" ------------------------------
"diddy" <d...@diddy.net> wrote in message news:Xns95D87E1A8C786danny@216.196.97.142...


IOW, you got THE SAME PROBLEM and NO METHOD, eh diddler?


Duh? You need a E***CUSE?


And do it again...

Your dogs are HYPERACTIVE on accHOWENT of you ABUSE THEM, diddler.


IN FACT, you CAN'T STOP THEM.

That's what the OP wanted to learn HOWE to do, diddler. REMEMBER?


You been takin your anti psychotic medications, diddler?


You got it, diddler.

From: Kathy Levee (kle...@zoo.uvm.edu)


You'd think the dog could find his
own way back to his HOWES???


But IT can't find ITS way back to his own HOWES?


Like run HOWET on his people and not return?

You FORGOT MURDERIN the vet's office kitty kat
and escaping and destructively chewing a rug and
gettin locked in a box in an HOWEtbuilding to muffle
his CRYING till he was SHITTIN BLOOD and went in for intestinal obstruction.


Naaah. You want a MARVEL? Marvel at that
STUPID KAT that PAINICKED when diddler
snared IT in her leg hold STRANGLE / CHOKE
choke trap. She'd have BLUDGEONED IT had
IT not been wearin a collar. Perhaps she was
lookin for a REWARD, bein a SUBSISTANCE hunter and all.

Ummm, better RETHINK THAT. Your PAL diddler
is a Satanist or somethin weird like that.


diddy wrote:

I certainly was NOT going to keep him, Nor was
I going to throw him away. I was going to go the
distance and get him back home (we fixed some
other problems while he was here) He's now a
happy and great dog, although I wasn't so fond
of him when he first came, and although we grew
close, the whole experience was not among my
fondest memories, until the end.

I needed to redirect his energies. He used escape for
entertainment. Once I gave him very many jobs to do,
and taught him LOTS of positive job skills to redirect
his energies. Once he found positive alternatives, he
finally forgot his negative behaviors which were severely
entrenched by the time I got him.

The first 6 months were awful for both of us.

------------------------------*-------------------

All the "awful"-ness was caused by diddy. Just as all
the awfulness of the blood coming out of Reka's rectum
was caused by diddy and her INSANE need to prevent
her dog with "getting away" with anything (such as telling
diddy she was deathly ill).

Only she led you to believe that she was the hero. Kind2dogs wrote:


diddy wrote:

I think 4 hours or so, I had put him in a supposedly
"Secure" place, while I had to leave. When I got
home, he had trashed my house. From then on,
when I left, he got put in the horse stall.

He trashed my horse stall.

He then got a new horse stall, wore a E-collar,
I electrified the perimeter of the stall and we
were finally able to contain him while we worked
on his escape problems.

Once he learned that I was more determined to
defeat him, he finally subdued. But escaping, to
him was a game.

Both of us had a throughly miserable time during
the stand off. The dog is actually now a very good
citizen. He just had to meet someone more determined,
and stubborn and willing to go the distance to do what it
took, before he would stop

Like I said, I thought he and I were going
to grow old together.

I am not going to go into exactly where we
went before we got that accomplished.

Let's just say it was "ugly"

You call tying the dog to a wall training, diddler, like
HOWE you trained your fence to train your dog?

diddy wrote:

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

"I admit our system fails occasionally"


"I admit our system fails occasionally"

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

"I admit our system fails occassionally"


"I admit our system fails occassionally"

"I admit our system fails occassionally"


"I admit our system fails occassionally"

"I admit our system fails occassionally"


"I admit our system fails occassionally"


"I admit our system fails occassionally"

"I admit our system fails occassionally"
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From: "Jerry Howe" <j...@cfl.rr.com>

Date: 2000/03/24
Subject: Re: Help! Good dog turned bad!


Hello Cindi,

I teach all my dogs to relieve themselves on command. It's not too
much to ask, and it helps knowing that when the opportunity was
given, that the dog really understood it was going to be his last
opportunity for a while.

I've had dogs get into the position and look back as if to say "see,
I didn't have to go."

But here's a funny one for you. Many years ago the "Tonight Show" was
hosted by Johnny Carson, and he'd always say "we're going to take a
break and come right back," at which point one of my student's dogs
went over to the t.v. and lifted his leg on it!

Next lesson was breaking the dog from taking commands from any one
other than his owner...

"Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and
judge things by reason's way, not by popular say." Montaigne

"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin

"If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman.
;~) DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS... J>>>

"CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw.

"I know that most men, including those at ease with problems
of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the
simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to
admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in
explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which
they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their
lives."
Leo Tolstoy

Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more
complaints to my personal email than any other controversial
post I have made to date, bar none?:

caveat
If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would
rather not have to do, then you shouldn't be doing them. If you
have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke
him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold,
hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are
appropriate, that the dog won't think of you as the punisher,
or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can't train your
dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe.

Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Wits' End Dog Training
Witsend...@aol.com
http://www.doggydoright.com
Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed.
-Francis Bacon-

There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem,
bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who
ever can't hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all.
-Nietzsche-

The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned
qualities.

The Wits' End Dog Training Method challenges the learning
centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged,
develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter.

The Wits' End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split
seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless
hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding.
-Jerry Howe-
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5 9th August 19:05
thepuppyfaerie
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HOWEDY bringmewater,

That's silly. If you're feedin dry commercial
dog food free feeding is the best method.


Your pups are only nine weeks old, they NEED 4 feedins.


THAT'S SHEER IDIOCY. You should NEVER have someWON
other than family handle your dogs.


BWEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

Commercial dog food is GARBAGE, bringmewater.

Yeah. That'll cause digestive upset and teach your dogs to TRUST you...


YOu been told to lock your dogs in a box and ignore their cries
or punish and spray aversives in their faces to quiet them.

LIKE THIS:

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
Lynn K.

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.


No dog should be locked in a box on accHOWENT of
THAT makes them fearful and hyperactive.


and ACTIVE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES.

From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST


It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.

Works like a charm.

My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.

I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple. Mike


From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com)
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST

I've been having a problem with my dog, Axel,
relieving himself in the house while I'm away
from home.

I've used TPW method's, and yesterday I was out
for 12 hours, and Axel didn't have one single "accident".

Today, I had hoped that the results would be just as
good - and they were (I was out for 11 hours).

The problem began when, as a puppy, Axel would
relieve himself in the house and I would point at the
mess and tell him "NO" or "Bad Dog".

That made him afraid to relieve himself in the house
or infront of me.

After I got TPW's training manual, I corrected my
mishandling of these instances.

When I came home to an "accident", I would simply
drop a can near the area and ask Axel "What's that?"
Then I would clean it up - with out showing him I was
the least bit upset about the mess, and when he looked
at the spot I would tell him "Good boy, you're a good dog".

This has been an ongoing problem, and thanks to the
Puppy Wizard, we've finally got it taken care of...

Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's methods
by alternating sounds and praising him while or before
he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's been going into
the room with the cat box and barking. That's because
he's thinking about getting into the box, but he knows he
shouldn't.

Thank you, Jerry, for all you help. You've been a
blessing to all of us.

AIMEE

===================

From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com):

I own a black an tan coonhound. We got him
as a puppy, and due to constant mishandling
(pulling on his lead, negative corrections, and
the occasional use of a bark collar) I ended
up with a very anxious dog.

I couldn't leave him home alone, I couldn't
crate him, I couldn't even take my dog for
walks because he feared EVERYTHING.

I was going to have to get rid of him if things
didn't turn around.

My husband and I searched the internet for
answers - AND WE FOUND THE PUPPY WIZARD.

For all of you disbeliveers out there HIS METHODS WORK!

I've followed his manual, and we now have a
dog that can be left home alone, that heels
on command, that can go outside and NOT
be afraid of everything he sees.

Not only have his methods helped our dog, but
our marriage has gotten better. We had fallen
into a rut - constant bickering and tension, we
never laughed or had FUN together - but now,
with the same mindset used in THE PUPPY
WIZARDS dog training, our communications
channels have opened, and we now work
together instead of against one another.

For all the "Literalists" out there, NO WE DID
NOT TEACH EACH OTHER TO SIT, STAY,
OR HEEL.

We simply eliminated the nagging and the
acting out to get NEGATIVE attention from
one another since we weren't getting
the POSITIVE attention we wanted.

So, it's been proven - THE PUPPY WIZARDS
METHODS WORK.

It's up to you to accept them. Yes, there's alot
of blame that we have to accept, but once we
realize that we've caused these problems to
arise, we can strive to make things better.
AIMEE =================


BWEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHHAHAAA!!!

Your PALS are lying dog abusing punk thug
coward MENTAL CASES who choke shock bribe
intimidate and MURDER their own dogs and
LIE abHOWET it, bringmewater <{); ~ ) >

Your vet is a IDIOT.

IMAGINE? Your vet certainly knows his shit.

Yeah... you're SETTIN IN IT.

Your CASE HISTORY is CRUCIAL to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's AGENDA.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{); ~ ) >
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HOWEDY matty,


BEWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!!
You SHOULDA, matty.


Afterall your AFTERALL matty, The Amazing Puppy
Wizard WOULDN'TA NOTICED you was FILTERING HIS
Posts on PEEIN, you freakin lazy simple little
girl boy <{); ~ ) >

Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:53:55 GMT
Subject: Re: how to get him to use a tray? HOWEDY matty,
"Rocky" <> wrote in message news:Fri9571F27CA4192australianshepherdca@rocky-dog.com...


Ya think so, matty?


Yeah. That cookie after the fact will really
reinforce the pryor behavior he ain't thinkin of, eh matty?


Should take TWO DAYS, matty.

NOT QUITE, matty.

Just settin right here stark ravin nekkid watchin
Dr. Phil, who is teachin kids to HOWEsbreak themselves, IN WON
DAY... just like HOWE The Puppy Wizard Teaches in your FREE
copy of HIS FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

You can also fill a squeaky toy with water and
use it to demonstrate... Just march it right over
there and give it the routine... use your imagination.

HOWEDY People,

A lot of my detractors got a big kick out of my training
tip for housebreaking or paper training a puppy, using
a water filled squeaky toy to teach the command while
letting the squeaky toy demonstrate the behavior we
are seeking... like in The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate
Toy Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming / Submissive
Urination / Car Sickness Technique.

That's called allelomimetic behavior, i.e. the dog copies
actions he observes, monkey see, monkey do.

Sure, I've provided them with lots of good belly laughs
and opportunities to criticize and berate me, until our
readers write back, telling us HOWE well it works,
NEARLY INSTANTLY, maybe faster... like freakin
MAGICK, only BETTER.

Of course HOWER Gang Of Thugs claims those posters
are me, posting under an alias. I don't post anonymHOWESLY,
anything I've got to say is coming straight from the shoulder.

Like for example, my Surrogate Toy Separation Anxiety
Technique. Everyone said I was crazy telling a toy "good
bye" upon leaving and "hello" upon returning, to get the
dog to copy the action of the toys while we are out, in
order to receive the same big greeting when we return...

Sure, that sounds crazy...

Our professor lying doc "scruff shake and scream no
into its face" dermer and cindy "don't let the dog scream,
grab its muzzle and tell it not to be such a moaner"
mooreon was havin a good laugh at that, till Marilyn
wrote in that it cured a seriously destructive separation
anxiety dog INSTANTLY, saving him from being returned
to the pHOWEND where he'd be MURDERED for gettin
thrown HOWETA four HOWESES for destructiveness.

That's when HOWER good professor SCRUFF SHAKE
and SCREAM "NO!" into ITS face for five seconds and
lock IT in a box for ten minutes meditation" dermer of
the UofWI department of ****-ytic behaviorISM,
killfiled Marilyn...

Since he won't speak with me, why don't WON of you
ask him HOWE he arrives at 5 seconds of screaming
NO while scruff shaking?

I got that Surrogate Toy tip from working with a crazy
student of mine. She was trying to figure out a way
her little dog wouldn't feel alone all day, so we worked
that out together...but it works great, and I'm satisfied

You will be too, IF you learn NOT to force control and
confront and scold or punish dogs to control them.
You can always go back to jerking and choking your
dog on a pronged choke collar if you aren't satisfied
following my non force, non confrontational approach
to teaching your dog to naturally WANT to do everything
you ask.

HOUSEBREAKING TECHNIQUE

The more you try to "housebreak" your dog, the
more anxiety he'll associate with it, and you will
never get it done. Here are directions that will
quickly get you in good shape with her, but you
must follow the directions exactly.

You may not have just a housebreaking problem, but
also a behavior problem. Every time you react to your
dog's housebreaking mistake, you are reinforcing it as
a negative attention getting device.

That's why screaming NO or scolding or doing anything
to call your attention to a behavior TEACHES the dog he
can pull your chain.

Here's what you need to do to end your dog's ability to
pull your chain besides reading the FREE WEDTM manual available
for
FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com

Any malbehavior is being reinforced when you confront
the dog about the behavior.

This becomes a vicious cycle, the punishment or
scolding only create more stress and anxiety, which
may cause other behavior problems as a replacement,
even though confronting the dog may seem to "work."
Obviously, confronting the dog should not have been
the recommended method to deal with this, or any
behavior problem. If that's the kind of advice your
getting from your pet professionals, run like the
****ens and tell them to call Jerry.

Keeping the lead on your dog while you go about the
house is often recommended, and might occasionally
work. HOWEver, you can't just tie a dog on your belt
and expect him to act like a key chain.

The only time the dog should be on lead with you is
when the dog is properly on command. Otherwise, the
restriction will cause stress and further promote other
behavior problems.

How can you deal with the dog tied to you if you
haven't learned proper lead handling techniques? The
pup isn't a sack of sand that can be dragged around
and dropped anywhere you put it. Any pulling on the
dog's collar will cause out of control behavior.

It's called the opposition reflex, positive thigmotaxis.

Now, when accidents happen, how do you deal with
this? It's real simple, but you have to not let the dog
see your reaction, or he'll still be "rewarded" for the
"crime."

Ignore the incident. Walk right past the "mistake." It
may not have been a mistake, and you can't call your
physical or verbal attention into the problem without
creating more difficulty for yourself.

Prearrange a soda can with six pennies in it, in a
convenient central location. The can must be picked up
silently and unobtrusively, casually. In the presence
of the dog, walk by the "dirty deed." You should just ask,
"what's that?" in a calm, curious tone as you SUBTLY
drop the can next to the spot and continue about some
other business, without saying ANYTHING further.

That's HOWE you'll address any chewing or other
damage. Continue doing something else for a moment
(like open the window), and then ask the pup if he'd like
to do something, like go outside, or anything to get him
out of the way so that you may clean the spot and
retrieve the can without him observing and hearing you
cuss under your breath about the mess and extra work.

When the dog returns to that room with you, he's going
to look at the spot, and look back up at you. You must
tell him he is a good boy, and sound like you really
mean it.

This will blow the dog's mind, and will render his
negative attention getting device that he's using
against you, useless. With a couple of examples
of this, the dog will begin to search for other ways
to command your attention. Hopefully, he will pick
a positive attention getting device. If not, don't
worry about that, just address the behavior
according to the techniques, and break each in
turn, based on their importance to your lifestyle.

All dogs need attention. What you need to do, is give
him that attention prior to the dog getting into trouble.

Any time the dog makes even brief eye contact, or
glances out of the corner of his eye at you, that
moment requires prolonged (5-15 seconds) of non
physical praise.

Some dogs like to exercise, run around for a few
minutes before they relieve themselves, if that's
what your dog likes, and if that's what you want,
by all means do that first.

Part of the solution is to teach the dog to relieve
himself on command, so that the dog knows the
purpose of his trip outside, and that he's got two
minutes to relieve himself.

That can be done in a couple of days, with a
determined effort to supervise and walk the dog
when appropriate breaks are necessary, or when the
dog shows signs that he needs to go out. Two minutes
of standing in one appropriate break area, without
walking or talking (which would will only distract the
dog).

The request to "take a break" should be asked, and
if the dog sniffs the ground he should be praised. If he
looks around at the birds or other distractions, a
second request to "take a break" should be given.

If he sniffs the ground he should be told he's a good boy,
if not, he should elapse the two minutes without walking
around, and return inside on command, if you're working
on obedience.

Don't fixate on the lack of results, we're talking about
learning and conditioning a habit, not just the mechanics
of the alimentary c**** and bladder.

If the dog did not relieve himself, constant
SERRUPTIOUS (subtle, unnoticed) supervision will be
necessary until the dog again shows signs of needing
to relieve himself. When that happens (it may only be
five minutes after having just been out), he should be
offered another break, and the same procedure should
follow.

You've got to wait till the pup "asks" or shows signs of
"discomfort" indicating he needs to relieve himself, or
you wont be teaching him to be able to contain himself.
That's why many "trainers" can't quickly house train their
dogs, they never TRAIN them to be able to "hold it,"
because they're WORRIED about the dog making a
mistake.

They WORRY more about teaching an unwanted
behavior than they THINK about TEACHING a behavior.
Two minutes, and that's it. No more than two
requests to relieve himself, and no unnecessary
walking.

He should be handled on a six foot lead, to
prevent him from wandering around and getting
distracted from his task. Conclude the break with a
"back to work" command and have the dog return to
heel and sit, before continuing. THIS IS CRITICAL for
more advanced trained dogs, you'll understand if you
read the Wits' End Dog Training Method manual.

IF THE DOG FAILS TO RETURN TO HEEL AND SIT,
THAT MEANS HE'S STILL GOT TO RELIEVE HIMSELF.

You can then ask him if he needs to relieve himself
again, INSTEAD OF the default for breaking a command
as per the FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
and he's GONNA KNOW that he's between a rock and a
hard place.

He's going to have to make a decision. That's the
fundamental principle of the Wits' End Dog Training
Method. It's a very powerful technique.
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