My puppy likes to eat mulch. Why?

HOWEDY Randy,

Instead of stayin right by your side as she should be?

S-HOWENDS like she's warming up to chew furniture.

She could swallow a piece and block her intestines.
You could break her of doin that if you PRAISE her
IN ADVANCE instead of tellin her "NO!"

Any behavior that's CONSISTENT, REPEATABLE
or PREDICTABLE is EZ to EXXXTINGUISH NEARLY
INSTANTLY.

ALL behaviors are the SAME SAME, they're just wearin different clothes.

Probably on accHOWENT of she's learned she
can command 100% of your undivided negative
attention when you try to stop her from doin it.

Every time you FAIL to punish her for picking
up some crap you've REINFORCED the behavior.

Every time you TRY to punish her for picking up
some crap you've REINFORCED the behavior.

EVERY THING you TRY to do to force CON-TROLL
of your dog or child REINFORCES their undesirable
behaviors and teaches them HOWE to HOWEtwit
the cunning of a fear force and CON-TROLL freak.

Dogs and children learn very quickly to DO
what you try to tell them NOT to do. THAT'S
HOWE COME HOWER EXXXPERTS NEED
to JERK CHOKE SHOCK CRATE and MURDER their own dogs.

A dog is a dog. A three week old puppy got
all the BRAINS he needs to HOWEtwit the
cunning of a dog abusing punk thug coward
mental case like the bums we got postin here
abHOWETS, Randy.

That's HOWE COME these simpletons you're
asking here abHOWETS can't tell you HOWE
to break your dog of swallowing crapola. Their
own dogs EAT GARBAGE and go to the emergency
HOWEspital for intestinal surgery and destroy
their HOWESES.

Puppy proofin your HOWES DISAVAILS you of
TRAININ OPPORTUNITIES. Crating dogs CONf-
HOWENDS HOWEsbreaking by teachin the dog
his box is his HOWES and your HOWES is his
terrortory to FHOWEL and increases fear, mistrust
and anxiHOWESNESS:

"Motivation Of The Resistance To Coercion," PAVLOV.

HOWEDY People,

Here's what the rpdb "experts" in dog training can't
figure out...

I don't expect many of the rpdb regulars will
understand this, because it has to do with dog
training, not dog abusing.

"Reflexes of purpose and freedom" in the
comparative physiology of higher nervous activity.

Institute of Higher Nervous Activity and
Neurophysiology, Academy of Sciences,Moscow.

The most complex unconditioned "reflexes of aim and
freedom," discovered by I.P. Pavlov, are compared with
the "competence drive" and the "motivation of the
resistance to coercion," respectively, described by
contemporary ethologists.

On the basis of the unconditioned "reflex of purpose,"
conditioned reflexes were developed in which positive
emotions arising in connection with the perfection of
a skill, irrespective of its pragmatic significance at
a given moment, serve as the reinforcement.

The unconditioned "reflex of freedom" is regarded as a
phylogenetic precursor of the will, and its acute
extinction as the physiological mechanism of hypnosis.

It was demonstrated experimentally that the appearance
of the state of "animal hypnosis" (immobilization
catatonia) in rabbits is accompanied by the
predominance of electrical activity and heat
production in the right hemisphere, i.e., by symptoms
which are found in hypnosis in man.
Simonov PV</h4>
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LeeCharlesKelley writes:

Thanks, Jerry, that's a helpful bit from the guy
who started it all. This shows what we've been
saying: that teaching the dog to play fetch,
regardless of its usefulness in the eventual
search part of the training program, is a
powerful motivator and reinforcer.

Of course these idiots (pardon my being blunt)
don't see using food and clickers as being a
form of coercion. Maybe they've been hypnotized
by Karen Pryor, et al.

Good. She should be HOWEsbroken and
coming every time she's called by now if
you've been studying your FREE copy of
The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual. And
she wouldn't be eating GARBAGE either.

PERHAPS you're not following your FREE copy
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual, PRECISELY?

Decent people do not post here abHOWETS, Randy.

Only the liars dog abusers cowards and active
long term incurable mental cases who can't train
their dogs not to eat garbage or shit in their HOWESES
withHOWET lockin them in boxes and hiding the
weenie and trying to get HOWET callin THAT, trainin.

Well then, you KNOW you're dealin with liars
dog abusers cowards and active long term
incurable MENTAL CASES who choke shock
beat bribe intimidate lock dogs in boxes and
murder them, eh Randy?

THAT'S HOWE COME DECENT PEOPLE DO
NOT POST HERE abHOWETS UNLESS they're
sayin "THANK YOU, The Amazing Puppy Wizard,
your METHODS SAVED MY DOG'S LIFE. G-D
BLESS YOU."

That's ALL you got to say to The Amazing Puppy
Wizard UNLESS you're askin a question abHOWET
HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method.

Only if you're a lying dog abusing punk thug
coward active long term incurable mental case.

THAT'S HOWE COME DECENT PEOPLE
DO NOT POST here abHOWETS.

You're welcome.

Here's what you're IN for:

From: Diane (dbergman@wwdc.com)
Subject: biting and attention
Date: 1999/10/13

I hope I'm not being a pest,(I have at least one
question a week) but I've never owned a lab
before and I think my 8month old lab/shepherd
has severe problems.

This newsgroup made me realize she is normal.

Her major problem is biting but I'm told labs and
shepherds are both bad for that as puppies.

Tonight I went to answer the phone and she took
my arm and wouldn't let go. I had to hang up as
my arm still has puncture wounds.

Has anyone had this problem?

I think she gets upset that all my attention is not
on her anymore. (I do spend a lot of time with
her and everyone tells me that I spoil her too much)

She also bites when she needs to go outside.

Any suggestions?
------------------------------------------------------------------ BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

WELCOME to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Forums, Randy.

NHOWE, permit The Amazing Puppy Wizard to
INTRODUCE you to the CAUSE of ALL temperament
and behavior problems in dogs children and society,
eg, YOUR OWN HUMAN NATURE.

HOWEDY People,

You WONder HOWE COME dogs have
temperament / aggression problems?

TRUST - The MAGICK BULLET

HOWEDY edgar s,

On 30 Oct 2002 21:37:15 -0800, edgar_sim@yahoo.com (Edgar S.) wrote:

EVERY THING I TEACH.

Naaah. Jerry's just a poor uneducated back yard
shade tree shit kickin dog dog trainer, come The AMAZING Puppy Wizard.

You mean LIES?

You gonna discuss training?

EXCUSE ME? I'm gettin 100% near instant TOTAL success, edgar.

Hence, there isn't a trainer in the whole wide world
who can do a better job than ME, even from sittin
right here, stark ravin nekkid.

I've got the MAGICK BULLET.

Right. I specialize in the most difficult behavior
problems I can find, all over the world, edgar s.

What blame? I don't discuss blame or past history or past
training. I don't care about the dog's name sex color or
breed. I don't care if my people are old cripples or retards
or veterinarains or professional trainers, YOU'RE ALL THE
SAME to Your Puppy Wizard.

Yeah. Except for one thing, edgar s. My method and
advice are FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE.

Figger it out, punk. You and your pals are lying
dog abusing Thugs and you ain't gonna continue
posting to our dog lover's groups no MOORE.

Neither would anyWON else... BWWWAAHJAHAHAHAHAA!!!

Yeah. Good idea. I'll drive the scavenger fish to clean
up the scraps when I'm done grinding you lying dog
abusing Thugs under my heel.

INDEED. Every thing Your Puppy Wizard tells
you is the TRUTH.

You don't need a flame suit, our dog lovers do.
I'm gonna fry their filthy asses.

HOWEDY matty,
3-dogs@rocky-dog.com (Rocky) wrote in
<Xns92B163A16EAE9australianshepherdca@130.133.1.4> :

You're a liar and a dog abuser, matty:

"Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,
"professora gingold.

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will
Seem Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe.
This Is A Normal Reaction The First Few Times
It Happens, But You'll Get Over It." mike duforth,
author: "Courteous Canine."

"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently as
possible. What does this mean?

When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time,
spray one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk
away. The dog won't be too thrilled with this but just
ignore him and continue your normal behavior."

--Mike Dufort
author of the zero selling book
"Courteous Canines"

terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
something you twisted out of context, because you
are full of bizarro manure."

Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee the
dog in the chest, step on its toes, throw him down by his
ears and climb all over it like a raped ape growling into
his throat and bite IT on his ears, or leash pop it on a
pronged spiked pinch choke collar or pop him in the
snout with the heel of your palm.

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch Right, Either
They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They Have A Very Stoic Dog.
Some Dogs Will Collapse Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch:
You Must Keep The Pressure Up" sindy "don't let the dog
SCREAM" mooreon, author of our FAQ'S pages at K9 WEB.

Is that true, Marilyn?

Of course not~ but THIS IS:

"Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap," professora gingold.
"Marshall Dermer" <dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message news:a3h5qn$mra$1@uwm.edu...

You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF
SHAKE:"

"I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A Dog I Do Not Believe
There Is A Single Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A Dog Is
Anything But Destructive," "I don't see why anyone would want
to choke or beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
a good working dog by making them unhapper, fearful, cowering,
etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl who continues:

amy lying frosty dahl continues:

"On the other extreme, the really hard dogs we have trained
require much more frequent and heavy application of
pressure (PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,

This is continued resistance to your increasing authority,
and the job is not done until it is overcome

Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper wield the stick,
or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
you to progress to striking them more sharply

Try pinching the ear between the metal casing
and the collar, even the buckle on the collar.
Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in

but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their
efforts to escaping the ear pinch

You can press the dog's ear with a shotshell instead of your
thumb even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against
that

Make the dog's need to stop the pinching so urgent that
resisting your will fades in importance.

CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever Ready Right Hand,
As it catches on, try using the stick and no ear pinch. When
the dog is digging out to beat the stick and seems totally
reliable without any ear pinch, you are finished

This is continued resistance to your increasing authority,
and the job is not done until it is overcome" If the dog
drops it, chuck it solidly under the chin, say "No! Hold!"

(stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps because the ear is
getting tender, or the dog has decided it isn't worth it)"
lying frosty dahl.

"Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap," professora
gingold.
From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
In article <38CC0C43.94E2DDD1@earthlink.net> rhurwitz@earthlink.net writes:

Please try Powell's Books in Portland Oregon. Their URL is:

http://www.powells.com/

Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both new
and used books on its shelves. You can order
books via e-email.

Koehler Method Of Dog Training
by Koehler, W R
Published by HOWELL BOOK HOUSE
(0876056575,

================================================== ======

Here's some quotes and some methods right outta your
koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream "NO!"
into its face for 5 seconds:"

"The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."

Hanging

"First, the trainer makes certain that the collar and leash
are more than adequate for any jerk or strain that the
dog's most frantic actions could cause. Then he starts
to work the dog deliberately and fairly to the point where
the dog makes his grab. Before the teeth have reached
their target, the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
the ground.

As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems
the dog is suspended in mid-air.

However, to let the biting dog recover his footing while
he still had the strength to renew the attack would be
cruelty. The only justifiable course is to hold him
suspended until he has neither the strength nor
inclination to renew the fight. When finally it is obvious
that he is physically incapable of expressing his
resentment and is lowered to the ground, he will
probably stagger loop-legged for a few steps,
vomit once or twice, and roll over on his side.

The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued, on his side,
is not pleasant, but do not let it alarm you

THE REAL "HOOD"

"If your dog is a real "hood" who would regard the
foregoing types of protest as "kid stuff" and would
express his resentment of your efforts by biting,
your problem is difficult -- and pressing.

"Professional trainers often get these extreme problems.
Nearly always the "protest biter" is the handiwork of a
person who, by avoiding situations that the dog might
resent, has nurtured the seeds of rebellion and then
cultivated the resultant growth with under correction.

When these people reap their inevitable and oftentimes
painful harvest, they are ready to avail themselves of "the
cruel trainer" whose advice they may have once rejected
because it was incompatible with the sugary droolings of
mealy-mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies, and dog
psychologists who, by the broken skins and broken hearts
their misinformation causes, can be proven guilty of the
greatest act of cruelty to animals since the dawn of time.

"With more genuine compassion for the biting dog than
would ever be demonstrated by those who are "too kind"
to make a correction and certainly with more disregard for
his safety, the professional trainer morally feels obligated
to perform a "major operation."

"Since we are presently concerned with the dog that bites
in resentment of the demands of training, we will set our
example in that situation. (In a later chapter we will deal
with the with the much easier problem of the dog that bites
someone other than his master."

Most of our dog lovers here ARE koehler trainers. koehler
trainers are BORN COWARDS. Only cowards LIE. FIGGER IT OUT.

Borrowed from: "Puppy Raising Tips" from
professional trainers, John and Amy Dahl.

"Around four months many puppies can withstand a
correction. Unfortunately this is the time they start
teething and if their mouth hurts, they may act
generally sensitive. If this is the case, be patient and
wait for all those baby teeth to fall out.

In training, retrievers often respond to physical correction
better than verbal correction. While "NO!" is extremely
useful if puppy is about to bite an electrical cord or steal
food off the table, when you are teaching them something
(like obedience) a sharp jerk on their lead or swat with a
stick gets the message across with less emotion and less
effect on their confidence.

If they drop the dummy and act like their mouth hurts
when they are teething, stop all retrieving and wait for
their mouth to feel better. A correction should be just
severe enough to get the dog to respond.

Repeated weak corrections are very stressful to the dog."

END lyingfrosty dahl

Psychoclown wrote:

"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something
you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."

Amy lyingfrosty dahl LIES with a straight face and says:

"I don't beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit
of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the
article (SHE'D REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU DON'T READ IT!),
there is NO mention in it of twisting ears (INDEED, SHE
PINCHES THEM WITH SPIKES).

I would never slap a dog (SHE TEACHES PEOPLE TO
BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS TO MOTIVATE THEM).

I would never advise anyone to slap a dog (SHE'S A
PROVEN LIAR AND DOG ABUSER, do you expect her to
ADMIT THE TRUTH???).

I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where
slapping a dog is anything but destructive."

RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists... and chin cuff doesn't
mean hit, according to lyinglynn and avrama....

amy lyingfrosty dahl continues:

"Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper
wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable
dogs may require you to progress to striking them more
sharply.

REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG.

Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of
as force-fetching: the ear pinch.

Make the dog's need to stop the pinching so urgent that
resisting your will fades in importance.

but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to
escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch
the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth,
get out the shotshell.

Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the
collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the
dog will give in

With your hand on the collar and ear, say, 'fetch.'

Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick.

Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy.
You can press the dog's ear with a shotshell instead of your
thumb; Say 'fetch' while pressing the dummy against its lips
and pinching its ear."

Gotta LOVE koehler. dahl makes koheler look like St. Francis.

If you are interested in purchasing a dignified stick to
lay across you puppy's arse, just send a personal check
or money order in the amount of $30-$40 for a 30"-40"
long whuppin stick.

These all natural hickory switches will outlast an
entire litter of puppies! MAYBE MOORE!! Supplies
limited, so HURRY! Be the first in your club to have
the hickory switch training aid guaranteed for the life
of your dog (which may be much shorter than nature
intended!).

Ask yourself: "HOWE COME DOESN'T JERRY
HURT DOGS TO TRAIN THEM?"

And then just answer: "On AccHOWENT Of
JERRY KNOWS HOWE TO TRAIN DOGS
WITHOUT HURTING THEM."

And THEN SAY OUT LHOWED: "IGNORE
JERRY, HE'S MEAN TO DOG ABUSERS."

You can get all the information you need to
PUPPERLY handle and train your dog using
non force, non confrontational, scientific and
psychological methods, in your FREE copy
of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual.

Your pal, Jerry "The Phony," Howe,
The Puppy Wizard. <{}; ~ ) >

HOWEDY diannes,

ANY behavior that's CONSISTENT REPEATABLE
or PREDICTABLE is EZ to EXXXTINGUISH NEARLY INSTANTLY.

Could be lots or irrelevent reasons. The
PROBLEM is she's pickin up STUFF she
shouldn't have. THAT'S ALL we gotta know.

That's irrelevent on accHOWENT of she
ain't gonna DO that noMOORE.

Lots of STUFF smells good.

NO PROBLEMO. We got poisonHOWES plants
and critters all over the place. It's EZ to train your
dogs not to eat poisonHOWES plants or toads
or snakes or garbage or food from C-HOWENTERS or ANY thing.

You CAN'T train a dog NOT to DO sumpthin
if you AVOID it on accHOWENT of you don't
know HOWE to TRAIN the dog not to DO that.

You mean force restraint to force the dog
not to eat STUFF? HOWE will that train
the dog NOT to EAT STUFF when IT ain't
ON LEASH gettin choked away from it?

That's INSANE. It only takes a couple minutes
to TRAIN a dog not to EAT POISON.

Pica is an Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
causes by STRESS from REPRESSIVE or
bribery trainin methods which INCREASE
anxiHOWESNESS to dangerHOWES levels.

No. The dog DOES the OCD behavior on accHOWENT
of he's STRESSED. You can CURE OCD'S NEARLY
INSTANTLY if you know HOWE.

"Birds of a feather...," The puppy Wizard's DADDY.

Yeah. Chewin rocks would SCARE an ETHICKAL
BREEDER on accHOWENT of it could RUIN a dog's
show and breeding career.

Right. On accHOWENT of your PALS jerked
and choked and stole the foribdden object from
the dog and threw it HOWETA sight instead of
simply breaking the dog of picking it up and leavin
it where it was and leavin the dog to learn HOWE
to DEAL with the distraction.

No. Mulch cannot punish and intimdiate a dog.
Unless he swallows it. Then it may kill him. But
that's O.K., ethickal breeders will put you back
on the list and ethickal vets will sign your new
puppy up for his puppy shot and worming series.

THAT'S the NATURE of an OCD. Ain't it.

The vet don't know HOWE to POISON PROOF your dog.
That'd be competetive with their surgical approach to dogs swallowing STUFF.

leah is a lying dog abusing punk thug coward and
active long term incurable mental case, like yourself.

Not if you TRAIN them NOT to. But you don't know HOWE.

Yeah. Like poo or dead critters or your shoes
or filthy undies like janet boss had EXXXTRACTED
from her dog for the same same same same reason.

Yeah. IN A PIG'S HEINIE.

What's gonna make it GO AWAY?

You think he's gonna FORGET sumpthin he
LOVES to do? Soon as he gets a chance he'll
be back on it and as soon as you CORRECT
the pup for trying to chew a piece and you're
back to the startin gate.

You got NO METHOD to TRAIN a dog not to
eat garbage poison or other innocent critters.
"Barbara Bomberger" <barbarabomberger@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:irfpkv8nugort0atv1uirii681h59at6hn@4ax.com...

Let's forget abHOWET "clearly wrong," as that
will put you at odds with the child or dog, who
may or may not understand your values.

The OBJECTIVE is not to HURT, but to TEACH.
Spanking and scolding and otherWIZE teaching
a child or dog to FEAR an abusive bully only teaches
animHOWEsity and fear, which fosters lying and
sneakiness.

Would your kids have run up the phone bill if you
was standing there threatening them??? Of curse
not!

That's HOWE COME forcing control NEVER WORKS,
unless you're gonna stand there FOREVER and FORCE
CONTROL.

You can't do that when the kid or dog gets big
enough to jump the fence or otherWIZE, escape your control.

The Puppy Wizard was NEVER grHOWENDED as a child.

The Puppy Wizard LAUGHS at punishment.

Yeah. Punishment DOES NOT WORK, it only teaches
ANTI SOCIAL and CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR.

Parents and dog owners who PUNISH have only their
own FEELINGS to protetct, they're unaware of the HARM
they cause their charges and society when they ESCAPE FORCED CONTROL.

NO. That's an ILLUSION.

The behaviors RESUME soon as the PUNISHER
is unavailable to PUNISH the undesirable behaviors.

Each LAPS in CONTROL where the victim achieves
his goals, is called VARIABLE REINFORCEMENT,
in behaviorISM lingo.

Any dog trainer will tell you variable reinforcement
is like pullin the arm of a slot machine, to a gambler.

FORCE TRAINING DOES NOT WORK, not withHOWET
GUARANTEED 10% FAILURE, or MOORE.

Right. Force trainers are only concerned with the moment,
cause they do not possess the intellect to HOWEtwit the
cunning of the domestic puppy dog or child.

Is that so?

To teach fair mindedness, trust, and respect?

FORGET RIGHT or WRONG. Dogs and children do
not know right from wrong, that's YOUR VALUES
you TEACH through DEMONSTRATED SELF DISCIPLINE.
PUNISHING is WRONG.

Well, that's YOUR EXPERIENCE because YOU
FORCE CONTROL through punishment and intimidation
which INCREASES ANXIETY and like the slot machine,
VARIABLY REINFORCES the inapupriate behaviors when
the CONTROLLER is not there to REINFORCE the behaviors
which have been REPRESSED...

REPRESSING BEHAVIORS only causes then to CHANGE,
to OTHER, SEEMINGLY NON RELATED behaviors as anxiety relief mechanisms.

As a parent or dog owner, there are no grey areas
to RIGHT or WRONG. Punishing IS WON of those
WRONG situation which are WRONG ALL THE TIME.

You cannot teach VALUE JUDGEMENTS through FEAR.

So, you'll TRY HARDER to FORCE values and judgement
through INTIMIDATION, FORCE, RESTRAINT, and DENIAL?

BWEAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

Tellin the child or dog "NO!" for unacceptable
behaviors teaches them HOWE to FORCE
CONTROL over YOU.

Any time the child or dog can stop you dead
in your tracks to address their inapupriate
behaviors REINFORCES THEIR POWER
over you and DEFEATS YOUR PUPORSE.

Perhaps if you chose NOT to ATTACK your
kids they wouldn't run up tHOWEsand dollar
phone bills, KNOWING FULL WELL, they'd
GET CAUGHT AND PUNISED accordingly?

EVER THINK OF THAT???

YOUR METHOD FAILED MISERABLY, yet
you will DIE DEFENDING IT, cause if YOU
are DEAD WRONG, your HUMAN NATURE
will NOT allHOWE YOU to ADMIT IT, and
your CONSCIENCE will HIDE from scrutiny.

That's HOWE COME the KILLFILE The Puppy Wizard campaignes.

Yeah... Looks like you done REAL GOOD!

When you're done strip dHOWEN searchin your
kids for STUFF and locking them in their bare rooms,
SOCIETY will be REQUIRED to REINFORCE YOUR
TRAINING, in the PRISON SYSTEM...

The son of a slave, is a slave.

INDEEDY. As taught in your FREE copy of The Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

<snip book>

Before you invest your hard earned dough, study your
FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual and extrapolate the
methods for use on your children.

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME SAME
SAME, For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

A Dog Is A Dog As A Child Is A Child. They Respond
In Predictable Innate, Normal, Natural, Instinctive,
Reflexive, Ways, To Circumstances And Situations
Of Their Environments Which We Create For Them.

ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING. Damn The Descartean War of
"Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words
And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

Here's a mom of three children and two dogs who
resolved all her behavior problems NEARLY INSTANTLY:

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHAHAHHAHHAHAAA!!!

And don't FORGET, they MURDERED your DEAD KAT:

Here's you choking and shocking your dogs
and trainin them to MURDER your HOWES kat:

Her kat was beloved, death was her blessing.

HOWEDY culprit aka kelly aka metta (metta is
culprit aka kelly's aka on the CRAZY PERSONS
news groups so she's not DISCREDITED as bein
NUTSO on the NON CRAZY person's news groups),
"culprit" <culprit@flashmail.com> wrote in message news:2mgmbhFlvf24U1@uni-berlin.de...

The Amazing Puppy Wizard is the only dog trainer
in history who teaches people all over the Whole
Wild World to handle train and rehabilitate ALL
behavior problems NEARLY INSTANLY for FREE, withHOWET HURTIN noWON.

Marilyn and professor dermer and perhps Larry,
cause THEY understand a little abHOWET behavior.

You mean the kat you trained your dogs to MURDER.

Well perhaps if you wasn't MENTAL you
wouldn'ta HURT your dogs till they MURDERED your DEAD kat.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard is QUOTING YOUR
CASE HISSSTORY of TRAINING YOUR DOGS
to MURDER YOUR KAT by FORGETTING to PUT
their SHOCK COLLARS on them when you got
back from the vet after $1500.00 in surgery.

You wanna see amusing?:

"we'll keep the indoor boundary set up, and keep
***testing the dogs with it (hiding behind the railing
and meowing usually does the trick)*** so that they're
familiar with the warning tone.

Manu is already pretty sure he knows what it means,
and whenever Lola trips it, he'll bite her hind leg and
pull her down the steps so the tone stops. he's such
a big brother, always trying to keep sis out of trouble."

And THEN (Drumroll please, Mr. Maestro...):

****************************

Your Attention to center ring...

No. Get it straight. You mean anyHOWE.

****************************

"i dropped of Mo upstairs, as usual, and headed
down to let the dogs out of their crates.

for some reason i'll never know,

*(EVERY WON KNOWS NHOWE.)

*(forgetting to put their SHOCK COLLARS ON THEM)

Mo followed me downstairs. he never does this.
and i didn't hear him coming. however, the dogs did.
they ran to investigate, and found a strange smelling,
bloody cat in their house.

needless to say, they attacked him"

Cause culprit aka kelly aka METTA FORGOT
to put their shock collars back on after uncrating
them and she DIDN'T TELL MO THEY WASN'T
WEARIN THEIR SHOCK COLLARS.

Naaah. Leavin you runnin loose is frightenin.

"culprit" <culprit@flashmail.com> wrote in message news:2mg1gvFmn2ugU1@uni-berlin.de...

INDEEDY. Like HOWE culprit aka kelly aka
metta's $7,000.00 DEAD kat WAS.

The PUPS would MURDER her just like
HOWE YOU TRAINED THEM to MURDER
YOUR OWN DEAD KAT.

Cause you trained your dogs to MURDER IT.

A WIZE idea.

INDEEDY. LikeWIZE, The Amazing Puppy Wizard
will keep posting YOUR CASE HISTORY to IDENTIFY
EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT you and your pals as
the lying animal abusng mental cases you are.

Here's the IN-complete story (short version) of
HOWE culprit aka kelly aka metta (metta is culprit
aka kelly's aka on the MENTAL PERSONS news
groups) TRAINED HER DOGS to MURDER HER DEAD KAT:

From: culprit (culprit@flashmail.com)
Subject: Re: Video clip......."Nero" practicing bark alert,
while walking backwards
Date: 2004-06-05 18:53:50 PST
"micha el" <spam_yurself@spamyourmamma.com> wrote in message news:yIydnZpPsIzg6l_d4p2dnA@comcast.com...

there are different brands of fences, and each
one has a variety of settings, set to the dog's
specific reaction. Lola's collar is set to give
more juice than Manu's, because she's more
likely to ignore the buzz, whereas Manu wants
nothing to do with it. i have no idea what brand or
setting Hope's collar was set at.

there's also the fact that Hope has lots of thick
fur and a good fat layer (to keep her warm in the
water) and my dogs are scrawny and nekkid.

so maybe Hope needs a higher setting to work
for her. it's really hard to say without comparing
the collars directly.

and you're right, if Lola really wants out of the yard,
she'll run through the fence. the annoyance doesn't
keep her in, which is why she's always supervised
outdoors.

Manu, OTOH, is happy to stay as far from the
fence as he can. what can i say, he's part eevil
pit bull and part fraidy cat.

-kelly

From: culprit (culprit@flashmail.com)
Subject: we got "the fence"
Date: 2004-02-14 15:48:26 PST

after having the appraisal for the real fencing coming out at
over $11,000, we decided to put up an invisible fence, just
until we can save some cash for the real one. after we put up
the real fence, the invisible one will probably remain as a
"fail safe" to keep the dogs off the real fence.

yes, i'm aware of most of the cons, i've always been
against them myself, until i talked to a lot of people
who have them, and had the invisible fence trainer
come out to meet the dogs.

i'll only be letting them out when i'm home and can keep a
direct eye on them, and we've discussed it with all of the
neighbors, and they've committed to containing their dogs,
so they won't come into my yard unless invited.

anyway, we had it installed outside today, and started the
indoor part of training. we decided to put the training fence
on the stairway, since the cats like to hang out up there and
the dogs aren't allowed to go up.

we put up a baby gate just past the invisible barrier,
so that they can't go through it, even if they want to.

i tried the collar on myself before we let the dogs try it,
and while it is uncomfortable, it's not painful, and i'm
comfortable with the dogs wearing it.

we thought Manu would require a higher setting than Lola,
because she's pretty sensitive to correction, and he is a big
meathead who doesn't feel a thing. this played out with the
first part of training, with Lola turning around and leaving
the steps at the first buzz, and Manu just standing there,
wagging his tail, like he didn't feel a thing.

we upped the setting three more times before Manu
"got it", and then he immediately turned around and
didn't go up the steps at all after that.

the weird thing is that Lola, who was clearly
bothered by the experience, kept trying to go
up to get the cat's area anyway.

this confirmed something i had suspected.

Lola may be more sensitive to correction, but
she also has more "drive", and will put up with
something she dislikes longer than Manu will.

Lola sat on the steps, cycling through the collar's
three 10 second failsafe cycles, then tried to climb
over the baby gate as though nothing had happened.

we decided to up the correction one setting, with the
theory that she'd find it so unpleasant it would stop
her from climbing the steps, then we'd turn it back
down once she realized she shouldn't be up there.

unfortunately, she never did realize it, so we had
to leave it on the higher setting.

so hers is set lower than Manu's, but she reacts a
lot more strongly to it (scratching at her neck, etc)
than he does.

we'll keep the indoor boundary set up, and keep
testing the dogs with it (hiding behind the railing
and meowing usually does the trick) so that they're
familiar with the warning tone.

Manu is already pretty sure he knows what it means,
and whenever Lola trips it, he'll bite her hind leg and
pull her down the steps so the tone stops. he's such
a big brother, always trying to keep sis out of trouble.

the outdoor training will begin later in the week, i'll post
updates once we get done with them.

-kelly

From: culprit (culprit@flashmail.com)
Subject: another tragedy
Date: 2004-06-24 14:16:01 PST

today Mo-kitty woke up in a large spot of blood.
his wound had been bleeding all night. i took
him to the vet, who said that this was not abnormal,
did some blood tests, and sent him home with me.

since he's not allowed to groom himself, he had
quite a bit of blood on him, which i was going to
clean up later.

i dropped of Mo upstairs, as usual, and headed
down to let the dogs out of their crates.

for some reason i'll never know, Mo followed me
downstairs. he never does this. and i didn't hear
him coming. however, the dogs did.

they ran to investigate, and found a strange smelling,
bloody cat in their house.

needless to say, they attacked him.

poor Mo had that stupid cone on his head and
couldn't see to escape. he was weak and sick
and didn't have a chance.

he didn't survive the trip back to the vets.

he died in my lap on the way there.

i'm in shock right now.

everyone is telling me to get the dogs out of
the house to deal with my grief, but how can
i deal without them?

they didn't understand that what they did is
wrong, they're not people. they smelled
blood and instinct took over. i thought about
getting rid of them for about two seconds.

but i can't. i love them too much. and i need
them more than ever right now. poor dogs,
they know something is wrong, and they're all
cuddled up to me.

they don't even know that they caused my suffering.

i'm not angry at them. just sad at Mo's passing.

after all that work to make him well, for him to die
in this way... it's like a cosmic joke. like a bad movie.

i'm emotionally torn. i'm numb. and i'm so very tired.

-kelly

BWEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

HOWEDY randy,

Doesn't matter, randy. A dog is a dog. Your
dog is gonna CONtinue to do whatever IT
WANTS to do just as your children will, on
accHOWENT of you don't have the intellect
to HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic
puppy dog even after The Amazing Puppy
Wizard and all HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Students all over the Whole Wild
World told you HOWE they done it EZ GENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY and for FREE, to boot.

Whatever. Next time it'll be bones glass rocks
garbage or maybe that SPECIAL TREAT, Gorilly
Glue like bentcajungirl aka perry's DEAD DOG
Maggie done and got DEAD over.

Or filthy undies like janet boss's dog Franklin
done and got intestinal surgery over.

Or garbage like stan the Nazi man's dog got
intestinal surgery over.

Or scraps of carpet like diddler's dog got intestinal surgery over.

You think you're gonna teach her not to eat poison
by offering her chew toys? That's INSANE. Some
of your chew toys will likely harm her as much as
the mulch you don't know HOWE to train her not
to swallow.

Dogs chew stuff. They SWALLOW stuff they
chew to stop you from takin it away from them.
EXXXCESSIVE or COMPULSIVE chewing is
a SYMPTOM of anxiHOWESNESS.

BWEEEEEEEHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

You gonna remove ALL the mulch in the Whole
Wild World like HOWER DOG LOVERS who
pick up other dog's shit so their dogs don't eat it?

Ain't nuthin better than FORBIDDEN FRUIT.
TRUST The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

BWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!

Like culprit's dogs. They ATE her DEAD KAT.

There's been NO advice HOWE to break this behavior.

That's irrelevent, on accHOWENT of the
dog AIN'T gonna be eatin it anyHOWE.

He may even get Mad Cow DIS-EASE.

Kinda like HOWE they RIPPED OPEN and
devHOWERED culprit aka kelly aka metta's $7,000.00 DEAD KAT.

You think these imbeciles can offer you
any viable trainin advice, randy?

Only liars dog abusers cowards and active long term
incurable MENTAL CASES post here abHOWETS, randy.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard COULDN'T EMBARRASS
you if what HE sez ain't the truth. Sorry abHOWET that.

Which category are you in, randy? Most parents CRINGE
and particularly HATE The Amazing Puppy Wizard for makin
them HOWET to be less intelligent than a two year old child.

But THAT'S just an EXXXCUSE.

Their real problem is that when they read The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's Posts they recognize
that they're child abusers on accHOWENT of
that's what they learned from their parents and
teachers.

Like professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer from
the ANAL-ytic behaviorISM department at UofWI,
or his associate dr. plonsky, for EXXXAMPLE.

But that's a tail for another day.

Perhaps you should review my original post to you
on this subject and then set your dirty punk thug
coward arse DHOWEN an study your FREE copy
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method MANual and learn HOWE
to become (with "a lotta hard work") a half decent
human being while you learn HOWE to train your dog
to naturally WANT to do ANY THING you ask.

Study your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual and
extrapolate the ideas and use them on your kids...
HOWEDY Dandelion Acres,
"Dandelion Acres" <nobody@cedarcomm.com> wrote in message news:3f41951e_3@corp.newsgroups.com...

That's curiHOWES. There ain't no such thing.
The Puppy Wizard is WON of a kind.

Not unless you know MOORE than The Puppy Wizard.
Then HE'S all ears. No pinching, twisting, or pullin, if
you don't mind, please.

INFORMATION got nuthin to do with ego.

INDEED. Like freakin MAGICK.

That's preposterHOWES.

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME SAME
SAME, For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

A Dog Is A Dog As A Child Is A Child. They Respond
In Predictable Innate, Normal, Natural, Instinctive,
Reflexive, Ways, To Circumstances And Situations
Of Their Environments Which We Create For Them.

ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING. Damn The Descartean War of
"Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words
And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

The Puppy Wizard sez you beat your child with your mind.

Shocking bribing pain fear force and intimidation are
for incompetent egomaniacs who can't control themselves
and can't HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic puppy
dog or child... or you wouldn't NEED to force intimidate and HURT them.

Shocking children IS APPROVED by the apa, with the
guardian's approval. Ask professor SCRUFF SHAKE.

INDEED? That's be REVOLUTIONARY. Wouldn't it.

"Calla" <fiatflux@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:48b22af2.0308220357.34dcd40f@posting.google.c om...

----- Original Message -----
From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: [GVS]doggydoright

I just had a nice talk with the man who invented
the "doggydoright" device.

If you know someone working at a shelter etc
who wants to quieten the dogs in the neighborhood
then this is an ideal present for them - and he will
sell it at a discount.

He sounds like someone we all know who
has no sense at all about money.

Nice, nice man.

"doggydoright" may be obtained from ThePuppyWizard@EarthLink.Net

I now have four locations at which the thing has
worked, so I recommend it.

Yap yap yap no more! I have zero financial interest in this.

George

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----- Original Message -----
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drvonh@mindspring.com>
To: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWizard@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 11:47 AM
Subject: Doin people AND dogs

"Linda" <llindaleedaniel@msn.com> wrote in message news:3c317fe4.0304110810.5ee8358d@posting.google.c om...

news:<_bhla.1641$M47.1027163@reader1.news.jippii.n et>...

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<milos54@yahoo.com>; edangell@comcast.net <edangell@comcast.net>;
pirate@netrover.com <pirate@netrover.com>;
jeff.jeffmiller@gmail.com <jeff.jeffmiller@gmail.com>;
treborburns@earthlink.net <treborburns@earthlink.net>; 511@shaw.ca
<511@shaw.ca>; labs@fluttervale.com <labs@fluttervale.com>;
dogs_in_the_house@hotmail.com <dogs_in_the_house@hotmail.com>

HOWEDY marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog
abuser coward active long term incurable
mental case phd psychoclHOWEN,

You mean INFORMATION abHOWET HOWE
to train his dog not to eat forbidden fruit, marcel
the imbecile idiot liar dog abuser coward mental case phd psychoclHOWEN?

Like when your dog bit your mrs. for takin
away from him sumpthin he wasn't supposed
to chew, marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog abuser
coward punk thug mental case phd psychoclHOWEN?

And you don't know HOWE to train him not to.

Yeah. You've been "WORKIN VERY HARD" tryin
to HOWEtwit the cunning of your puppy dog. Do
you guys have the words IMBECILE and IDIOT in French, marcel?

So you punish him. THAT'S HOWE COME
he grHOWELS at you and your brother on
accHOWENT of he looks like you.

BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

That's quite the solution, ain't it. THAT'S HOWE
COME some American coined the term "IMBECILE IDIOT".

Thanks for all the heelpful avice, marcel the imbecile
idiot liar dog abuser punk thug coward mental case
phd psychoclHOWEN.

From: Diane (dbergman@wwdc.com)
Subject: biting and attention
Date: 1999/10/13

I hope I'm not being a pest,(I have at least one
question a week) but I've never owned a lab
before and I think my 8month old lab/shepherd
has severe problems.

This newsgroup made me realize she is normal.

Her major problem is biting but I'm told labs and
shepherds are both bad for that as puppies.

Tonight I went to answer the phone and she took
my arm and wouldn't let go. I had to hang up as
my arm still has puncture wounds.

Has anyone had this problem?

I think she gets upset that all my attention is not
on her anymore. (I do spend a lot of time with
her and everyone tells me that I spoil her too much)

She also bites when she needs to go outside.

Any suggestions?

------------------------------------------------------------------

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

HOWEDY marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog
abuser coward mental case aka mudbunny,

man!!

Yeah? I'd think he's a DOG.

Kinda like our good professor SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
NO! into its face for 5 seconds" dermer's little dog Maxie The
Magnificient Masturbator furiHOWESLY masturbatin on his C-HOWECH pillows.

He's having an anxiety relief mechanism OCD behavior
problem just like professor SCRUFF SHAKE'S little dog.
It's caused by YOUR PUNISHING HIM.

You mean you think his STRESS RESPONSE is FUNNY?

Cause he'll probably TURN on you and you'll KILL IT, to be FAIR.

Oh, the training is what's CAUSING this.

Destructive chewing is a BEHAVIOR PROBLEM,
not an act of TEETHING.

To be neutered. That's not gonna address his anxiety
and the furious masturbation WILL CONTINUE.
Unless you give him 5 miles of daily exxxercise.

I hate to say it, but I TOLD YOU SO.

Yeah. PRAY for dog training LUCK, marcel. GOOD LUCK.
HOWEDY Marcel,

Bitter apple often DOESN'T WORK.

Sloan's NEVER FAILS.

The IDEA is NOT to use aversives, but if there's a
SPECIAL NEED, temporarily using Sloans on
electric cords etc, is PERFECTLY SAFE
physiologically, but DETRIMENTAL psychologically.

So, is your INTEREST in the TOXICITY of Sloan's Vs
Bitter Apple in the interest of PROTECTING DOGS
from ABUSE? Or is your false argument displaced
ANGER at Your Puppy Wizard for always being RIGHT
and PROVING our DOG LOVER are a Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards who'd rather HURT
YOUR DOG than admit Your Puppy Wizard is right?

In Your Puppy Wizard's experience observation and
personal opinion based on field trials and proven
effective results, there is NO RISK of toxicity from
any amount of Sloans used on chewable items,
on account of THE DOG AIN'T GONNA CHEW
stuff with Sloan's on it.

HOWEver, if you was a REAL DOG LOVER, your
OBJECTION should RIGHTFULLY be, the use of
AVERSIVES, and NOT the false accusations of
physical harm as a result of SAVING THE DOG'S
LIFE, the standard COP OUT for HURTIN DOGS
as YOUR PALS TEACH.

NOW GET THE HEEL OFF OUR FORUM or study
your FREE copy of my FREE Wits' End Dog Training
Method manual and CONTRIBUTE to our forum,
Marcel, or get the heel outta here.

What's it gonna be? You gonna continue to make
yourself out to be a CHUMP PUNK LYING DOG
ABUSING THUG COWARD like your mentors and
peers, or are you gonna do what's RIGHT for your
own dog, Marcel?

The follow posters are either paid shills, forgeries or
LIARS, according to our dog lovers. Ask anybody.

YOU figure it out:
"Hoku Beltz" <hoku@rsphawaii.com> wrote in message news:SN2k9.45447$V7.10868114@twister.socal.rr.com. ..

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----- Original Message -----
From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo

Aloha Jerry,

Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders. I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now. It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.

Your program is awesome, but you already know
that. Keep up the good work!

Hoku

==================

Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben

===================

Dave Cohen <cohen1@total.net writes:
Re: Barking Deterrants Needed...

Hi. Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have
spoken with him briefly once by email.

I have no stake or interest in the success of his
business. I simply want to thank him publicly for one
of his tips, with regards to separation anxiety.

I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed
animal and then say good bye to my own dog, but
I am usually a very open minded person, so I tried it.
Well, lo and behold- the damn trick worked!

I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and
personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes
him is not understanding his logic. Thank you Jerry!

===================

----- Original Message -----
From: Eric
To: jhowe2@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in...

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago regarding
submissive
peeing. Just wanted to let you know he's doing great- he was
"cured" in
about 2 days using your techniques! He has since become the
"smartest dog
in the world"! Once I stoppped thinking like a human and got
inside his
head, I can teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter of minutes.
Makes me
look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed 'em, and am
getting
them thier shots. Time to get inside their heads and teach them to
teach
themselves how to be good dogs! Instead of feeling like
"training" is a
chore, I look forward to working with these guys a couple times a
day...

Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T", I learned
from you to
"think like a dog" and stimulate thier brain rather than beating
ass or
pinching, or any of that nonsense. I know damn well I would NOT
be loyal to
someone who beat MY ass lol!

Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes out there
and
teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs. A horseman friend
of mine
uses very similar techniques in training his horses- he calls it
"natural
horsemanship". He is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet
somehow
he repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows any
more, but
goes now and then to rub thier noses in it (pun intended)... Too
cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard

----- Original Message -----
From: <n>
To: "Jerry Howe" <jhowe2@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM

Subject: Re: Damned Family Leadership Exercise - Re: Am I expecting to much

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Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h67d@corp.supernews.com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's
methods with our dog. We had the same problem as the
original poster has with Buzz. One day working with the
family pack exercise and practicing the recall command
with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and
daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you
might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method
and *judge the results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always
comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave
it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay,
walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from
our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm
forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive and
nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
then she was in a shelter for months. They (most of them)
wanted to give up and kill her Now she's gained confidence
and trust with us. Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just once
when she heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that
the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources. In my
opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and leaves
out the bad. Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry personally.
I've emailed him and instant messaged him. I have not bought a
"Doggy Do
Right". He's offered help for free.)
-----

M.
--
Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: mick@crneckiy.com
AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227

======================

Jeremy writes:

"A customer recently purchased a Shiba Inu and I suspect
she may be in for a wild ride. This is a breed that I suspect
may respond particularly well to mutual respect style training.

The alpha complex (as I now call it) is likely to
really provoke the dog's naturally competitive nature.

Thanks 1000 times for opening my eyes and don't let
those assholes get you down. I can't be the only person
that sees the sense in your methods. I'm in Windsor,
Ontario, Canada and pass your info to anyone it might
help" Thanks, Jeremy.

================

From: Becky (BeckySiz@new.rr.com)
Subject: Re: Crate Anxiety
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Date: 2002-04-04 12:56:23 PST

Try Jerry Howe's training manual and check out his Doggy
Do Right (And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A Cockatoo
Or Two Did Too) machine....it is for this.

Please do not listen to the others in here that don't like
him or his methods, they have never tried them....I have
and it works!!!!

I broke my dog from nipping almost 100% in 1 day and
she usually does this SEVERAL times a day and actually
makes my kids bleed!

Try it or contact him! The manual is at the above website
also, and it is free!

Becky

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"JoeTheGuru" <joetheguru@hotmail.com.NOSPAM wrote in
message
news: 3cab77eb$0$9993$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

JERRY SAVE THIS LAD!!!!

or it could be a troll <are you a troll??
do not use it on your dog.....

would you use it on your best friend.....

I have read jerry's book, it seems too easy at first.
however I started to use some of the training out of
it and now.

I have a dog that heels as fast as a collie in a
trial.<great dane X mastiff

I have a dog that stays and never leaves the spot.

I have a dog that comes when ever I call.

I have a dog that never leaves the yard, never runs
away.

I have a dog that stands still to be washed
with the cold hose.

I have a dog that never pulls on
the lead when we walk.

I have a dog that puts up with more abuse then a
dog should from my 2 year old <and loves it

I have a dog that barks at the fence only when some
ones there.

I have a dog that would not care less if there is
another dog in the park <only wants to be with and
please me though a lot of this is due to me training
the dog <spending the time with the dog.

jerry's book showed me not to punish the dog. but
just to work with the dog. which I liked the idea of
hence why I tried it. it is easy to become
frustrated with a dog when you are trying to train
them.

I look forward to my next puppy <ban dog so
I can use the information from jerry's book
and see just how good a dog can get.

the dog I have now was when I picked her up from the
RSPCA. she could not walk on a lead <no idea. cowered
from every noise <and wet her self, messed in the
house at every turn. acted like I was killing her
when I dragged her over to the mess.

this was A 6 month old pup that had been beaten <2.5
feet to the shoulder. I could of taken her back
however I knew I could bring her back to being to be a dog.

the dog I have now at 1.5 years <same dog is a dog
to be proud to walk down the street with <3 feet to
the shoulder and still growing.

so well behaved even when people walk passed with a
out of control dog. gentle with my child and trust
worthy < I never have to worry that my dog
will bite her, only have to worry if a stranger
comes over to my child. still that is not a worry
she places herself between my child and the
stranger

I may be plugging jerry's book, however with the
crap out there it is good to see that someone has
moved forward. looked at a different way to train
dogs. yes he gets into people, and in their face <
you should back off a little jerry however he is
sick of the bashing, choking, shocking, shaking and
everything else. so jerry save this lad from ruining
his dog. later, Joe

================== <"Terri"@cyberhighway

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people that
use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante
dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than
those that have studied and lived by their craft for
decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll never know.

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

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"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes@easynews.com wrote
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I read up on rotties, pitbulls, etc., and quite a
bit of the literature suggested I needed to assert
my dominance and "make the dog earn everything it
gets."

I tried this once or twice, just by taking a stern
tone of voice, and the results were terrible.
The pup got scared and just wanted to stay away from
me.

That's why I support Jerry Howe and his FREE
Wits' End Dog Training manual -- that and the fact
that Jerry is an all-around great guy.

The core takeaway I got from Jerry's manual is this:
make yourself the center of your puppy's world -
- his personal Lord Jesus. Never give him a reason
to fear you or think you're angry. Love the heck
out of him, and you'll end up with a great dog.

This has truly worked with my puppy. She'll do
anything I want her to, if she understands, because
she trusts me 100 percent, and nothing is more
important in her world than her relationship
with me. http://www.geocities.com/viscouspuppy
Charlie
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