the puppy wizard

HOWEDY lynda,

Cc's for EMBARRASSMENT FACTOR:
lynda07@hotmail.com;dermer@uwm.edu;
tote@dog-play.com; kelleyMethod@aol.com;
Lord_durron@comcast.net


You mean 'HOWEDY lying dog abusing punk
thug cowards and active long term incurable
MENTAL CASES who taught me to jerk and
choke and punish crate bribe and intimidate
my dog and LIE abHOWET it', DON'T YOU.

You've had PROBLEMS with Jake since the git go
you lying dog abusing punk thug coward mental case:

- Apr 11, 2004 by Lynda -
Re: Puppy training/dominance - please help

Just a quick note to say thanks SO much for
all of the constructive advice I received -

I'm putting it into practice and as you all know, it works!

Thanks again Lynda

--------------------------

THANK YOU, lyinda. The Amazing Puppy
Wizard COULDN'T DO IT withHOWET
YOUR HEELP!

WELCOME to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
HUMAN BEHAVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORY.

- Jun 1, 2004 by Lynda -
Re: 5 month old pup still biting

Thanks Yvonne, I'll look forward to hearing from you
again. I have learnt a lot in only a few days and can
now see the mental stimulation is important. I gave
Jake one of those toys today where the treats ...

---------------------------------

From: Lynda (lynda07@hotmail.com)
Subject: Re: Training problem
Date: 2004-11-01 08:09:11 PST

I have the same problem with my 10 month old dog.
My commnands just do not seem to apply to him
outside the house and I am desperate for him to learn
he has to come back when I shout him when we're in
the woods on a fun walk just as much as he does when
I call him in the house.

I'm taking him to a new obedience class this weekend,
hopefully this will teach me how to get him to come back
in all cir***stances. I just hope I've not left it too late at 10
months.

I'll let you know what I learn.

Sorry I've not been much help at the moment though.

Lynda

------------------------

Looks like you're a SLOW LEARNER. BWEEEEEEEEJAAAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAA!!!

To E***PIATE his anxiHOWESNESS.


To E***PIATE his anxiHOWESNESS.


On accHOWENT of he NEEDS to RUN
to E***PIATE his anxiHOWESNESS
which is HOWE COME he's HYPERACTIVE.


On accHOWENT of he's not TRUSTWORTHY
if someWON else should be abHOWET.


So noWON will SEE him.


INDEED.

COWARDICE is the hallmark of the lying dog
abusing punk thug coward MENTAL CASE.

THAT'S HOWE COME you're askin HOWE to
HURT and INTIMIDATE your dog NHOWE that
he's becoming viciHOWES on accHOWENT of
you HURT INTIMIDATE and BRIBE him:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised
for the good of its victims,
may be the most oppressive.
Those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end,
for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience." -
- C.S. Lewis.

"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
Aeschylus (525BC-456BC), Agamemnon.


He's OBJECTING to you CHOKIN him
you freakin lying dog abusing punk thug
coward ACTIVE LONG TERM INCURABLE
mental case.

Perhaps THAT'S HOWE COME he won't
come when you call him.

"The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
may acquire those rights
which never could have been withholden from them
but by the hand of tyranny.
The question is not can they REASON,
nor can they TALK,
but can they SUFFER?" -
- Jeremy Bentham


Yeah. That can be a REALLY HARD problem
to E***TINGUISH NEARLY INSTANTLY. You'd
have to stand at maybe four intersections for
five minutes each to E***TINGUISH chasin
cars IF you could LEARN HOWE to CON-TROLL
him withHOWET CHOKING him someMOORE
like HOWE you TAUGHT HIM to chase cars
jump up at people.

Those behaviors WILL GET WORSE and
your dog WILL BECOME VICIHOWES if
you don't GET CON-TROLL of YOUR HUMAN
NATURE and STOP HURTING and INTIMIDATING
your dog or you'll MURDER HIM like THIS
100% NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Student LEARNED AFTER IT WAS
TOO LATE: <"Terri"@cyberhighway

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive
childs since I freely admit to having read and, I
hope, understood enough of the manual and it's
counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of
Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant
barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of
supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had been
posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to
hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our
arms while he was given the needle and having to
hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a
dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that
people that hide behind fake names are more
honest than people that use their real names.

Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have
studied and lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really
stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and
Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because
you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea,
and I don't really care.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day
and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use
and testing. You would never believe the results, so
you'll never know.


I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and
Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get
what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.


Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?) ===============


Like HOWE he TRIES to ATTACK cars.


UNTIL YOU CHOKE HIM.

Which is HOWE COME he rears up, like janet's dog Franklin.

HE'S GONNA ATTACK A PERSON and SOON.


There AIN'T NUTHIN WORSE than gettin CHOKED.
THAT'S The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FAVORITE
move when confronting a viciHOWES man. It ALWAYS
WORKS JUST LIKE FREAKIN MAGICK. Ask
PROFESSOR SCRUFF SHAKE dermer of UofWI
department of ****-ytic behaviorISM. It's got
sumpthin to do with reflexive memory and restimulation.

Like when you HURT your dog to TRAIN IT.


Yeah. He's what they call "IN DRIVE." Ask leah
abHOWET that, she knows EVERY THING
abHOWET HOWETA CON-TROLL DOGS attacking
and MURDERIN innocent critters when their
"PRAY DRIVE SUDDENLY KICKS IN" and IT
goes HOWETA CON-TROLL.

It's JUST a DOG THING:

"It was kind of funny, in an absurd way. The rabbit
was completely still, eyes open and glazed, dried
blood in his ears and mouth, with his back legs
stiffening quickly.

It was her pet rabbit, not a wild bunny, so
that made it much harder for her.

And he was killed by bichons.

Her dogs had torn it apart. My one student who had
shown up (another weird thing about the night) and I
had to continuously check for heart and bowel sounds
for her, until she could accept that the rabbit was dead.

(The rigor mortis in his back legs she attributed to "pain").

Full moon.

Canine Action Dog Trainer http://www.canineaction.com

YOUR STUDENT, leah. Like that RECENT GRADUATE
STUDENT Rottie who'd been in your SOCIALIZATION
classes since IT was ten weeks old who RECENTLY
MURDERED a little innocent DEAD DOG at the park.


Yeah. You and ed w of PET LOSS dot COIN.

You hurt intimidate and murder critters, leah.

Really Bad Day
Date: 2004-03-21 17:34:07 PST HOWEDY leah,
"Leah" <dfrntdrums@aol.comMURK-OFF> wrote in message news:20040321194728.23546.00000101@mb-m15.aol.com...

BWEEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

You're no dog trainer, you're a FRAUD.


Class??? You don't have trainin classes you
teach people to throw treats to dogs for mindless
unthinking behaviors and tell folks to jerk and
choke and shock dogs when bribing and avoiding
behaviors doesn't work an then you try to get HOWET callin THAT, trainin.


AnyWON who'd trust you to train them to handle
their dog was in a state of shock or takin anti psychotic
meds before they started.

Tough break. R.I.P., dog.

-----------------------

"I don't think Jerry intentionally lies. I think he twists
things around in his own mind until he actually believes what he's saying."


You wanna SEE "AMUSING"?:
Your dog is becoming viciHOWES
on accHOWENT of you CHOKE him.


EMBARRASSMENT IS NOT IN YOUR CHARACTER
or you WOULDN'T POST HERE abHOWETS:

- Apr 11, 2004 by Lynda -
Re: Puppy training/dominance - please help
Just a quick note to say thanks SO much for all of the
constructive advice I received - I'm putting it into practice
and as you all know, it works! Thanks again Lynda

- Jun 1, 2004 by Lynda -
Re: 5 month old pup still biting
Thanks Yvonne, I'll look forward to hearing from you
again. I have learnt a lot in only a few days and can
now see the mental stimulation is important. I gave
Jake one of those toys today where the treats ... BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

When you AIN'T CHOKIN him.


Yeah. But THAT won't CON-TROLL your
HYPERACTIVE HOWETA CON-TROLL
dog durin the week.


Yeah. THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing
Puppy Wizard LOVES COLD SNAPS. THAT'S
when the MENTAL CASES you're asking for
advice have their dogs locked in boxes 22
HOWERS a day on accHOWENT of they
GO INSANE when you WITHDRAW their
E***ERCISE INDUCED ENDOMORPHIN
FIX.

DOGS GET ADDICTED to E***ERCISE
and HAVE WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS
JUST LIKE A JUNKIE KICKING THE MAIN
VEIN. BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!


Your MENTALLY ILL pals think dogs
canot be E***ERCISED till their
bones finish growin.

THAT'S INSANE.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard's dogs are
WORKING PROTECTION by six months
of age.

DOGS DO NOT BREAK DHOWEN FROM
PHYSICAL E***ERCISE they BREAK
DHOWEN on accHOWENT of STRESS
INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE, aka
The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAA!!!

You mean 'what do you think lying dog
abusing punk thug cowards and active
long term incurable MENTAL CASES
who got NO IDEA abHOWET HOWE
to handle train and CONdition a critter
any doGgamened better than they've
done with their kids and SP-HOWESES:

You GET The Critter You TRAINED

A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.

ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING


You're welcome:

ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Cir***stances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.

Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.


"It is by muteness that a dog becomes
so utterly beyond value."

Like a confessor Priest?

"With him,
words play no torturing tricks.........., "
--John Galsworthy.

Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...
Their behaviors reflect
HOWER words, actions and training quirks.
Jerry HOWE, The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

ON ACCHOWENT OF:

"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Could Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Dogs,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >


From: The Puppy Wizard (ThePuppyWizard@EarthLink.Net)
Subject: Re: Puppy Temper Tantrums...
Date: 2004-11-20 10:38:52 PST HOWEDY lynda,
"Lynda" <lynda07@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:krsup019jfqne9p2979ibbd2d2pu4g162i@4ax.com...


You're STILL at Wits' End, lynda. You just started
a NEW training class two weeks ago after FAILING
to pupperly handle and train your dog for MONTHS,
thanks to the ADVICE of your mentally ill pals here
abHOWETS.

It's ALL in your own posted case history, lynda...
some of which is posted below, for the edification
of HOWER readers and your EMBARRASSMENT.


On accHOWENT of you HURT and INTIMIDATED HIM.


STILL IS. AIN'T IT, lynda.

REINFORCEMENT NEVER ENDS. HOWEDY lynda,
"Lynda" <lynda07@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:8cqag0h8vjjce52drei6fkeh8m2mkeu1q0@4ax.com...

You've been following the advice of HOWER
dog lovers and NHOWE your dog is HOWETA
CON-TROLL, and HAS been HOWETA CON-
TROL since you started mishanling and abusing
him as your pals here have encouraged you.


Your posting history will show you the grief
you've had thanks to your mentally ill lying
dog abusing punk thug coward pals here:


- Jul 21, 2004 by Lynda -
Training questions - Border Collie

Hi, My 6 month old (male) Border Collie was doing
well with basic commands to start with but recently
(say the last 6 weeks) totally ignores them. I know
he knows what I mean because on occasions where ...

- Jun 11, 2004 by Lynda -
Swimming
Hi, Excuse my total ignorance but I'm looking for
guidance on when I could let my pup near/in water
deeper than a few inches? Jake LOVES water and
I see loads of owners throwing sticks into the local ...


- May 15, 2004 by Lynda -

Lead training pup (quite long)
Hi all, I have had my 4 month old Border Collie Jake
since he was 7 weeks. I spent a lot of time before he
could go out ie before vaccinations, taking him out in
my arms to as many places as I could where ...

- Mar 27, 2004 by Lynda -
Border Collie pup - exercise
Can anyone offer any advice on how much exercise a
Border Collie pup should have. I have a 10 week old
BC who will soon be able to go out, having had his
vaccinations. I know they have a lot of energy ...

the puppy wizard

YOU'RE INSANE.

DOGS ARE NOT HYPERACTIVE IF THEY'RE NOT ABUSED.

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY kayla,

You've been followin the advice of HOWER
Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug
Cowards and ACTIVE LONG TERM INCURABLE
MENTAL CASES for 8 months NHOWE.

You STILL haven't LEARNED your LESSONS.

You should KNOW by NHOWE that DECENT
PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS.

INDEEDY. EVERY THING your PALS
do to dogs CAUSES ALL behavior and temperament problems.


Well, you've been STUDYING dog behavior
right here from your PALS who ALL have
THE SAME SAME SAME SAME temperament
and behavior problems with their own dogs.

WELCOME to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Forums SCHOOL Of HARD KNOCKS
and HUMAN BEHAVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORY.

Your POSTED CASE HISTORYS will PROVE
by their diversity and CONSISTENCY that the
SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR is NOT as we've BEEN
TAUGHT by the E***PERTS in behaviorISM.


Your dog's anxiHOWESNESS burst is CAUSED
BY REPRESSIVE handling and training you've
been taught by the DOG LOVERS here abHOWETS.

Hyperactive dogs and children are MADE hyperactive.
Running and E***CESSIVE E***ERCISE DO NOT
E***PIATE anxiHOWESNESS, they only temporarily
tire the dog and after a few minutes rest they're acting
HOWET again, on accHOWENT of HYPERACTIVE
BEHAVIOR is CAUSED by REPRESSION and wihholding
attention affection and so called "rewards."


MOST of your PALS here have dogs with criciate
ligament and other neuro degenerative / endocrine
DIS-EASES CAUSED by STRESS from MISHANLDING.


INDEED. The veterinary community needs to become
aware of these STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE
DIS-EASES as EVIDENCED in The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's Archives on Google.


melanie's dog Solo is breakin DHOWEN for the
same same same reason professor SCRUFF
SHAKE dermer's little hyperactive HOWETA
CON-TROLL FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive
Masturbator Maxie, has been DYIN from.


THAT'S INSANE!

If the pups was in the WILD they'd be
huntin with the pack at five months of age.

A DOG IS A DOG.


INDEEDY!

THAT'S HOWE COME your dogs GO INSANE.

Stress from scheduling:

Is there a Science of Behavior. p. 59
6hr on 6hr off schedule of "executive
behavior", death dealing ulcers in monkeys,
only schedule to do this. Sawrey, W.L.
& Weisz, J.D., An experimental method
of producing gastric ulcers.

J of Comp and Physiol. Psych., 1956, 49(3), 269-270

Dr. Von

ADIOS, dog lovers!

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY tommy,


INDEEDY!

lynda's been followin the ADVICE of the same
kinda lying dog abusing punk thug cowards and
active long term incurable MENTAL CASES since
pryor to gettin her fear aggressive hyperactive dog.

Duh? The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual Students all over the Whole
Wild World REPORT CURING ALL temperament and behavior
problems NEARLY INSTANTLY.

MAYBE FASTER.

You punk thug coward MENTAL CASES call
them LIARS and FORGERIES on accHOWENT
of you don't BELIEVE dogs CAN BE TRAINED
to NATURALLY WANT to do EVERY THING WE
ASK, so long as we don'g JERK and CHOKE
and SHOCK and LOCK them in boxes and
spray aversives in their faces and BRIBE them.


INDEEDY.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard has DISCREDITED
nearly EVERY professional trainer and university
trained behaviorist in the Whole Wild World.

We can NAME NAMES if you'd LIKE.

We can INVITE them to TALK BUSINESS
RIGHT HERE on The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Forums.

OR we can JUST FORGET abHOWET them
and EVERY THING you bums believe abHOWET
dogs and behavior and we'll FINALLY get 100%
CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS
for ALL handlers and ALL dogs.

BUT YOU'D HATE NOT HURTIN YOUR DOGS.


ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.


Dog trainin AIN'T LUCK, tommy.


Ooops! Sorry tommy.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard DIDN'T
MEAN to POKE you again like that!

HOWEver, you'll GET USED TO IT:

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author: "CourteHOWES Canine."


Ooops! Hey tommy? HOWE does it feel to
see yourself BEATIN a dog to HOWEsbreak
IT when EVERY 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
Students HOWEsbreak their dogs NEARLY
INSTANTLY withHOWET lockin them in
boxes and restricting food and water and
walkin them EVERY HOWER an beatin them?:

"Walkin The Walk," Accordin To tommy sorenson, aka jack morrison
aka dogman aka joey finnochiario etc, etc, etc.

Here's lyingdogDUMMY aka tommy soronson
beatin a dog to HOWEsbreak IT to save ITS life:

But FIRST, a little good KOEHLER trainin:

Koehler On Correcting The Housebreaking
Backslider.

"If the punishment is not severe enough, some of
these "backsliders" will think they're winning and
will continue to mess in the house.

An indelible impression can sometimes be
made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long
duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he's
made so you can come back at twenty minute
intervals and punish him again for the same
thing. (Dogs are REALLY stupid. J.H.)

In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this
disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the
light spanking that some owners seem to think is
adequate punishment. It will be better for your dog,
as well as the house, if you really pour it on him."

"Housebreaking Problems:

"The Koehler Method of Dog Training"
Howell Book House, 1996"

Occasionally, there is a pup who seems determined to
relieve himself inside the house, regardless of how
often he has the opportunity to go outside. This dog
may require punishment.

Make certain he is equipped with a collar
and piece of line so he can't avoid correction.

When you discover a mess, move in fast, take him to
the place of his error, and hold his head close enough
so that he associates his error with the punishment.

Punish him by spanking him with a light strap or
switch. Either one is better than a folded newspaper.

It is important to your future relationship that you
do not rush at him and start swinging before you get
hold of him.

When he's been spanked, take him outside.
Chances are, if you are careful in your feeding
and close observation, you will not have to do
much punishing.

Be consistent in your handling.

To have a pup almost house-broken and then force
him to commit an error by not providing an opportunity
to go outside is very unfair. Careful planning will
make your job easier.

The same general techniques of housebreaking
apply to grown dogs that are inexperienced in the
house.

For the grown dog who was reliable in the house
and then backslides, the method of correction
differs somewhat.

In this group of "backsliders" we have the
"revenge piddler." This dog protests being alone by
messing on the floor and often in the middle of a bed.

The first step of correction is to confine the dog
closely in a part of the house when you go away, so
that he is constantly reminded of his obligation.

The fact that he once was reliable in the house is
proof that the dog knows right from wrong, and it
leaves you no other course than to punish him
sufficiently to convince him that the satisfaction of
his wrongdoing is not worth the consequences.

If the punishment is not severe enough, some of
these "backsliders" will think they're winning and
will continue to mess in the house.

An indelible impression can sometimes be made
by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration,
then leaving him tied by the mess he's made so you
can come back at twenty minute intervals and
punish him again for the same thing.

In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this
disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the
light spanking that some owners seem to think is
adequate punishment.

It will be better for your dog, as well as the house,
if you really pour it on him.
"Handsome Jack Morrison"
<handsomemorrison@thedetonatorearthlink.net> wrote in <message news:a236iv0ngp58gv9jmi818kbmk928rjcokq@4ax.com...

"Handsome Jack Morrison"
<handsomemorrison@thedetonatorearthlink.net> wrote in <message news:spb3ivgh7prvq9omhka0bcif0tfknv6oop@4ax.com...

Here's professor of ****-ytic behaviorISM research
at UofWI, marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
"NO!" into ITS face for five seconds and lock IT in a
box for ten minutes contemplation," dermer:

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ****-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW ; ~ } >

P.S. Contacting Dr. P:

Please note that due to the large number of
requests I receive, I can no longer give free,
personal advice on problems related to dog
training and behavior.

In order for me to give such advice we would
have to "talk" about the problem at length.

That is, I would need detailed information about
the dog, it's environment and routine, the problem,
and the situation in which the problem occurs.

Thus, this type of consultation takes time which
I cannot afford to give away for free.

If you wish such advice, please see the information
I have provided about my K9 Behavioral Consulting
practice. Another alternative to obtaining personal
advice is to participate in e-mail, chat room, &
newsgroup discussions.

P.P.S. BWEEEEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

YOU'RE FRAUDS, drs p. and dermer!

Either DEFEND your LIES, ABUSE And
Degrees or get the heel HOWETA THIS
BUSINESS.

"If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
and you will know each other.
If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
and what you do not know you will fear.

What one fears, one destroys."
Chief Dan George

"If you've got them by the balls their hearts
and minds will follow," John Wayne.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW ; ~ } >


"(Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
few regulars here who are either ill-
tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.)," --Marshall


"If you've got them by the balls their hearts
and minds will follow,"
John Wayne.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

GOT MILK?

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY leah,


The Amazing Puppy Wizard REVERES HIS
test subjects CASE HISTORY DATA. It's gonna
put The Amazing Puppy Wizard in the medical
books for CURING ALL temperament and behavior
problems and MOST DIS-EASE, NEARLY INSTANTLY
and FOR FREE, to boot.

The training, veterinary and behavior industries
are gonna LOVE hearin THAT, ain't they, leah:

"I don't think Jerry intentionally lies. I think he twists
things around in his own mind until he actually believes
what he's saying.

Jerry is the only poster here who gives dangerous
advice. Google for spike and squirt. And let's not
forget the times he's told posters whose dogs have
medical problems that his halfwits-end program could
cure them.

PetsMart Pet Trainer
My Kids, My Students, My Life


Defend yourself? From tommy? tommy's a
lying dog abusing coward, an anonymHOWES
bully who hurts intimdiates and murders dogs
and insults decent human beings and plots to
hurt QUEERS on his HIV forums played by his
alter ego joey finnochiario or any of a number
of false identities.

tommy sorenson is a puppy miller and dog abuser
who's posted here for years under the screen name
dogman till he got EMBARRASSED TO DEATH by
tellin The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual Students Disciple
Paulie and Marty B that they'd NEED TO HURT
their dogs MOORE THAN THEY'D LIKE to break
them of POO EATIN.

They CURED their dog's behavior problems
in a couple days using The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual.

tommy called them LIARS.


DoGgamened tootin.

HOWEver, The Amazing Puppy Wizard E***PECTED
that on accHOWENT of NO WON CAN BELIEVE ANY
WON METHOD GETS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANT 100% TOTAL NON PHYSICAL CON-TROLL
with ALL dogs and ALL handlers ALL OVER the Whole
Wild World AS REPORTED RIGHT HERE by The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Students.

You call them LIARS and FORGERIES by The
Amazing Puppy Wizard on accHOWENT of
THEY ALL S-HOWEND THE SAME.

A dog is a dog.


THAT'S ABSURD. That "adolescent rebelliHOWES
stage" is CAUSED BY ABUSE, not AGE.


Your dogs are HYPERACTIVE on accHOWENT
of you PUNISH CRATE HURT INTMIDATE and
WITHHOLD BRIBES and supposed REWARDS
and your E***PERT AVOIDANCE techniques.


You CHOKE your dogs and lock them in boxes
and withhold attention affection and bribes. Your
SENSITIVITY shows when you LIE abHOWET
what you DO to your dogs and call The Amazing
Puppy Wizard and ALL HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Students
all over the Whole Wild World LIARS.

Perhaps THAT'S HOWE COME you take anti
psychotic meds? Or might that be HOWE COME
you can't SEE REALITY, leah. You're a dog abusing
coward and your methods are HOWE COME your
dogs are HOWETA CON-TROLL.


Your dogs FEAR YOU and THAT'S HOWE
COME they REACT INTENSLY with FEAR
like that RECENT GRADUATE STUDENT
Rottie you SOCIALIZED since IT was ten
weeks old who RECENTLY MURDERED
a little innocent DEAD DOG at the park.


ONLY IF YOU'RE AN ABUSER WILL
YOUR DOG OR CHILD REACT INTENSLY
TO FEAR and SEPARATION.

They musta be mishandled like your own dogs
who destroyed your HOWES and ruined your
marriage and tried to attack your brother in law
and your kat's been hiding in a crate for WON
YEAR on accHOWENT of your dogs will HURT
IT if you ain't standin there ready to HURT THEM
FIRST if they TRY IT in front of you... and then
you give them a TREAT! BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!


Your BRIBERY may have triggered that RECENT
GRADUATE STUDENT Rottie who MURDERED
that little innocent DEAD DOG in the park and
your other "STUDENT'S" dogs who MURDERED
her HOWES bunny.

REMEMBER, leah?

YOU THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY:

Leah Effexor for chronic depression, in denial
about being mentally ill. Has taken
several other mentally ill medications
before settling on effexor for her chronic
mental problems. Recenly changed to
another ANTI PSYCHOTIC prescription.

"I don't think Jerry intentionally lies. I think he twists
things around in his own mind until he actually believes
what he's saying."

Jerry is the only poster here who gives dangerous
advice. Google for spike and squirt. And let's not
forget the times he's told posters whose dogs have
medical problems that his halfwits-end program could
cure them.

PetsMart Pet Trainer
My Kids, My Students, My Life:

"It was kind of funny, in an absurd way. The rabbit
was completely still, eyes open and glazed, dried
blood in his ears and mouth, with his back legs
stiffening quickly.

It was her pet rabbit, not a wild bunny, so
that made it much harder for her.

And he was killed by bichons.

Her dogs had torn it apart. My one student who had
shown up (another weird thing about the night) and I
had to continuously check for heart and bowel sounds
for her, until she could accept that the rabbit was dead.

(The rigor mortis in his back legs she attributed to "pain").

Full moon.

Canine Action Dog Trainer http://www.canineaction.com

YOUR STUDENT, leah. Like that RECENT GRADUATE
STUDENT Rottie who'd been in your SOCIALIZATION
classes since IT was ten weeks old who RECENTLY
MURDERED a little innocent DEAD DOG at the park.


Yeah. You and ed w of PET LOSS dot COIN.

You hurt intimidate and murder critters, leah:

Really Bad Day
Date: 2004-03-21 17:34:07 PST HOWEDY leah,
"Leah" <dfrntdrums@aol.comMURK-OFF> wrote in message news:20040321194728.23546.00000101@mb-m15.aol.com...

BWEEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

You're no dog trainer, you're a FRAUD.


Class??? You don't have trainin classes you
teach people to throw treats to dogs for mindless
unthinking behaviors and tell folks to jerk and
choke and shock dogs when bribing and avoiding
behaviors doesn't work an then you try to get HOWET callin THAT, trainin.


AnyWON who'd trust you to train them to handle
their dog was in a state of shock or takin anti psychotic
meds before they started.

Tough break. R.I.P., dog.

-----------------------

You MURDERED your own DEAD DOG
Buck cause you was TOO LAZY to walk
him and TOO STUPID to restrict salt from
his congestive heart failure diet supplemented
with lasix, FRENCH FRIES and PIZZA.

And THEN you CHANGED YOUR MIND
just after the veterinarian MURDERED HIM
for you for your CONvenience.

From: Leah (dfrntdrums@aol.comMURK-OFF)
Subject: Re: It's Over
Date: 2001-07-13 18:46:21 PST


I had that impulse the moment that Buck's
eyes closed and he went limp. I wanted to
scream, "No! I made a mistake!"

I'm just glad I didn't break down until that moment.

I was able to smile at him and say happy things
while he was watching me. So at least the last
thing he saw and heard was the most important
thing in his life - me, telling him I loved him.

From: Leah (dfrntdrums@aol.comMURK-OFF)
Subject: Re: It's Over
Date: 2001-07-15 08:11:21 PST

This is a very comforting statement. And
so true. Can I plagarize you? :} I've also
been hanging in the alt.support.pet-loss
newsgroup since I lost my eskie, and
there are a lot of people there who would
benefit from hearing this. :}


From: Leah (dfrntdrums@aol.comMURK-OFF)
Subject: Re: It's Over
Date: 2001-07-13 12:25:22 PST

Thank you, everybody, for your kind words.
They really do help.

I really didn't think this would be so hard.
I thought I was ready. I thought I'd feel
relieved that Buck was "safe" from further
suffering.

All I can see is his eyes as he looked into
mine, trusting me, as the vet gave him the
needle.

I don't know if I'd ever have the courage
to do this again. I hope I never have to.
Leah. =================
"MaryBeth" <marbeths@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message news:3cfcdcfb$2_8@news.teranews.com...


From: Seeing Spots \(Val\) (Holmes.V@worldnet.att.net)
Subject: Re: Dear Wits End
Date: 2002-06-04 18:19:07 PST

HEY!!!

There is a Valid Valerie with a REAL Dalmatian
who is a real sweet dog with a few issues that I
am working to resolve after adopting her from a
shelter she spent 2 years in.

All I want is to get some decent help for my dog.

There is some decent stuff in Jerry's manual.
My dog has ACTUALLY been responding to
her training. The deal is you have to seperate
your opinions and impressions from the guy
who is writing these posts and take from the
manual what you want.

Personally, I get a pretty good chuckle out of
the whole Jerry thing. I have to say the guy
is pretty clever, you're letting him get under
your skin.

It makes for a very amusing game I think.

I'm sure he would agree, or he wouldn't be playing
everyday. He also wouldn't be playing if he didn't
believe that his method of training weren't valid.

Perhaps I'll learn from my mistakes, but so far,
using the Wits' End, I have gotten my dalmatian
to listen to me, to look to me for direction, to wait
for me to say when.

I have changed her from an aggressive dog to
one who is willing to please her owner, willing
to listen, willing to assume her role in the pack.

The real Valerie M. Holmes speaking

P.s. Jerry, don't get any ideas about morphing
into me, ok?

MaryBeth, QUEEN OF THE RPD* MENTALLY
ILL ALLSTARS MENTAL ILLNESS IN RPD*

Mental illness is a public issue in these newsgroups.
People are always running around calling other people
mentally ill and diagnosing their illnesses. I think it's
only fair that we have an accurate list of who is and
who isn't mentally ill, so that we can avoid any misunderstandings
and promote group harmony.

MaryBeth
MVP (most valuable psycho)


Has contributed greatly to the annual profit
results at several large pharmaceutical corps
has taken virtually every mentally ill (crazy)
drug treatment in the book, and then some:
prozac, zoloft, amitryptiline, Buspar, Xanax,
effexor, paxil, HRT, wellbutrin, tranquilizers,
clomid, has suffered from or been:

suicidal, agoraphobic, tidal waves of
PMS, mood swings, turned into a hermit,
bloated, just real angry, hubby afraid of
her, high blood pressure, divorced,
"raving bitch" "zoloft zombie" for four
years, "living through layers and layers
of gauze," chain smoker, buzzing, weight
gain, fatigue, terrible dry mouth, dull
headaches, fuzzy brain, lack of
concentration..etc.
severe depression, severe insomnia, Panic
ALL the time, crying, not sleeping, you
name it...etc...

MaryBeth (on being seriously f'd in the head
aka mentally ill) aka cuckoo! kuckoo! ding! ding! ding!
aka a superpsychotic bitch from hell

"I know for a fact I went thru years of
being overly sensitive, being a b*tch,
being self centered, being self pitying,
you name it, I was a wreck and I ran over
everyone in my path."
"<G> I do know the power of meds,
especially on a long term basis, and it's
not pretty. You become another person, if
it's not the correct med for you.

--All the best,
MaryBeth

"Yup Diane, I am taking Zoloft, and my
Rheumatologist told me that taking
Ultram with it can cause seizures."

"I have all the symptoms.I am suicidal at
times (cyclical) have severe insomnia,
'crawly' skin etc. I have an appt to see
my doc next Friday to test for
menopause."

--MaryBeth

"I noticed that antidepressants cut
libido into the dead zone and I had no
real emotions, like not laughing at funny
stuff, couldn't cry either.....except about
my suicidal thoughts (but at the time I
thought there was no other way out)."

--MaryBeth

"Hi, new to group, just starting Clomid
today. I talked with RE and pharmacist re:
zoloft 50 mg daily) and ineraction with
Clomid.

They reported none. Not sure about the
prozac tho. Gonna poat a new message to
intorduce myself "
--MaryBeth <still feeling like herself>
<G>

"I wasted about 10 years of my life, and
lost many many treasured ppl and things.
Please don't do the same.
(((((((SCOUT))))))))))

--MaryBeth

"Slowly but surely my depression got worse
and worse. They put me on meds for it, and
all along kept telling me to wait on the
TKR, as 'it really wasn't that
bad.....yet". HA!" The depression got so
bad, and lots of other
things happened and my ex and I would up
divorced four years after our move. It was
horrible. The hardest thing I have eve
gone thru"

--MaryBeth


Leah Effexor for chronic depression, in denial
about being mentally ill. Has taken
several other mentally ill medications
before settling on effexor for her
chronic mental problems.


Subject: MAJOR Problem with Madigan:

"And something happened yesterday that I'm not
even ready to talk about. I'm too shocked, overwhelmed,
discouraged, upset... and it's 100% my fault because,
in retrospect, I see how I actually *trained* her to do it. Sigh.

Oh, okay. I said it out loud (or rather, wrote it out loud :},
so I might as well go on... (just changed the subject line,
too, because I fear this will turn into a rather volatile thread
on its own)...

She bit me.

Not nipped me. Bit me. Drew blood. A lot of it.

Left three holes in my nose.

I have never been bitten by a dog before.
Least of all my own puppy.

In fact, I denied it at first. "She didn't bite me,"
I told my husband. "She was just clumsy and
hit me in the nose with her teeth."

"She bit you," he told me. "You have tooth marks."

"I don't know what to do. I somehow took a gentle,
non-violent dog and trained her to bite. Not only that,
but to bite ME in the FACE! How do I address that now?"

"I've had dogs all my adult life, and thought I knew a
lot about them. It's only been since I got Madigan in
January and began training classes, reading books,
and hanging out *here* that I realized how LITTLE I
knew about training them. I made so many mistakes,
especially on my heart dog - my eskie - because he
was the only dog I had who had behavior problems.

He was yelled at, slapped, made to smell his messes
(at least I didn't push his nose IN them) and isolated
for long "time outs." I only wish I had it to do over again."


Whatever. It was JUST WON TIME.

Naaah. THAT ain't what makes you HOWET
to BE STUPID, leah. What makes you STUPID
is to think you know anything abHOWET trainin
dogs.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY lynda,


INDEEDY. That's HOWE COME The Amazing
Puppy Wizard CHOSE these forums for HIS
HUMAN BEHAVIOR LABORATORY.
WELCOME research subjects!


"Wilful", lynda?

Let's DEFINE "wilful":

WordWeb:
Adjective wilful:

1. Done by design
2. Habitually disposed to disobedience and opposition
3. By conscious design or purpose

If dogs DO NOT DESIGN on PUPorse to
OPPOSITIONAL, seems the CAUSE of
DISOBEDIENCE is a lack of RESPECT
for the dog otherWIZE IT wouldn't OPPOSE
your UNCONDITIONAL LOVE or FEAR your GENTLENESS.


Trainin dogs is EZ GENTLE NEARLY
INSTANT and FOR FREE, to boot.

But ONLY dog abusing mental cases post here
abHOWETS. THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing
Puppy Wizard CHOSE these forums and eliminated
all the SANE posters so we'd be able to gather the
CASE HISTORY DATA necessary to BURY the traditional
BUSINESS of behaviorISM as taught in universities
and sold to J.Q. Pubic as DOG TRAININ.


INDEED. It takes a few days to LEARN FEAR and MISTRUST.


INDEED.

THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard
has PARTNERED with ed w of PET LOSS dot CON.


RIGHT!

You'd MURDER HIM FIRST.

THAT TOO, is PART OF the PROBLEM we
got here in The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
HUMAN BEHAVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORY.


INDEED.

It HAPPENED on accHOWENT of lying dog
abusing punk thug cowards like professor
marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
'NO!' into ITS face for 5 seconds and lock
IT in a box for ten minutes reflection" dermer
TEACH HOWER KIDS to HURT INTIMIDATE
and MURDER critters according to descarte
and LIES abHOWET it to defend his "degrees"
JUST LIKE HOWE the E***PERT DOG TRAINERS
LIE to DEFEND THEIR alleged RIGHT to HURT
INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs they're AFRAID
to HURT and INTIMDIATE someMOORE.

Like YOUR DOG, for E***AMPLE.

Pretty soon he's gonna HURT someWON
like HOWE YOU TAUGHT HIM.


INDEEDY.

But that won't matter to you on accHOWENT
of THAT'S HOWE COME you're postin to The
Amazing Puppy Wizarsd's HUMAN BEHAVIOR LABORATORY.


That so? What's gonna CHANGE?

Your "trainer" is a FRAUD, like leah and "jack".


Yeah. But you're a RESEARCH SUBJECT
in The Amazing Puppy Wizard's HUMAN
BEHAVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORY.

You see lynda, The Amazing Puppy Wizard
CANNOT DO the CONTROL STUDIES of
animal behavior on accHOWENT of THAT
would be UNETHICKAL.

That's HOWE COME we're TALKIN BUSINESS here.


INDEEDY. Like terry willis aka psychoclHOWEN, you
only HURT and INTIMDIATE your dog 5% of the time.


INDEEDY!

You're askin PROVEN LYING DOG ABUSING
PUNK THUG COWARDS and ACTIVE LONG
TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES who
HURT INTIMDIATE and MURDER their own
dogs for ADVICE.

THAT'S INSANE.
WELCOME, Research Subjects!


Your CASE HISTORY DATA will put The
Amazing Puppy Wizard into the medical
books, lynda. Your posts are ALWAYS
welcome.

IN FACT, The Amazing Puppy Wizard COULDN'T
DO IT withHOWET YOUR HEELP!~


Thank you, dog abusing mental case.

You GET The Critter You Trained

ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE
CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.

Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised
for the good of its victims,
may be the most oppressive.
Those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end,
for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience." -
- C.S. Lewis.

"The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
may acquire those rights
which never could have been withholden from them
but by the hand of tyranny.
The question is not can they REASON,
nor can they TALK,
but can they SUFFER?" -
- Jeremy Bentham

"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
Aeschylus (525BC-456BC), Agamemnon.

"Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom and right action
as separate, not the wise. If any man knows one, he
enjoys the fruit of both. The level which is reached by
wisdom is attained through right action as well. He who
perceives that the two are one knows the truth."

"Even the wise man acts in character with his nature,
indeed all creatures act according to their natures.
What is the use of compulsion then? The love and
hate which are aroused by the objects of sense arise
from Nature, do not yield to them. They only obstruct
the path." Bhagavad Gita, adapted by Krishna with
permission from His FREE copy of my FREE Wits'
End Dog Training Method manual.

Force training JERRYIZES dogs, and GETS THEM DEAD.

The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME is the perfect
synergy of love, pride, desire, self will, greed,
ego, fear, hate, arrogance, disbelief, jealousy,
embarrassment, embellishment, shame, guilt,
anger, aversion, attraction, revulsion, change,
permanence, enlightenment, insult, attrition,
and conditioning.

It's the perfect fusion of The Word...,
in the physical.

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY taragreen2,

Cc's for EMBARRASSMENT FACTOR:
taragreen2@verizon.net;crimsonshedemon@hotmail.com ;
kelleyMethod@aol.com;


That's correct. Caesar Milan SEZ
so on National Geographic TV and
DEMONSTRATES it, to boot.


That so? LikeWIZE. HOWEver, you're a proven
lying dog abusing mental case. REMEMBER taragreen2?

That so? Is that HOWE your PRONGED
SPIKED PINCH CHOKE COLLAR makes
dog ENJOY working with you so much
they GO INSANE when they see you gettin
HOWET your TRAININ equipment?


INDEEDY. You MAKE them like that with your abuse.


That's INSANE. IT TAKES MINUTES to TRAIN
a dog not to pull beyond the limit of your 6' lead
so long as YOU AIN'T JERKIN and CHOKIN IT
or FORCING RESTRAINT with your GL NECK
TWISTERS, you lying drunken drug abusing mental case.


That's VERY tellin on accHOWENT of THERE
AIN'T NO SUCH THING as DOMINANT DOGS.


You mean when you STOP CHOKIN THEM.

On accHOWENT of you CANNOT TRAIN
a RELIABLE COME COMMAND using BRIBES
and CHOKING and SHOCKING UNLESS
you can HURT the dog EVERY TIME IT
misbehaves.

Like in your LEAVE IT COMMAND, for E***AMPLE, crazydrunkendruggin taragreen2.


BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
Students all over the Whole Wild World
install a 100% RELIABLE COME COMMAND
as a conditional reflex, in abHOWET WON HOWER.


IN abHOWET WON HOWER.

THAT'S HOWE COME we don't BRIBE CHOKE
INTIMIDATE or IGNORE HOWER DOGS and
lock them in boxes and give them "time HOWETS"
and HOWE COME we GET 100% TOTAL NON
PHYSICAL CON-TROLL NEARLY INSTANTLY.


You're a freakin imbecile, taragreen2. If you
COULD train a dog he'd DO ANY THING YOU
ASK withHOWET HURTIN HIM as in your
LEAVE IT COMMAND where you JERK
and CHOKE the dog and SCREAM "NO!"
at IT which TEACHES dogs to DO the BAD
BEHAVIOR as soon as his ABUSER ain't
STANDING THERE ready to HURT HIM
someMOORE.

Your "POISON PROOFIN" method DOESN'T
WORK and YOUR PALS HERE on The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Forums HUMAN BEHAVIOR
LABORATORY have PROVEN IT in their own POSTED CASE HISTORYS!


REMEMBER NHOWE???


"misty" <Momisty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote in message news:
16990-3CAB1F8C-1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't know whether Peach is dead or alive.
I do know she's not here with us. I really can't
blame anyone here for her loss.

I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it
because of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling
to accept the idea that my using a shock collar
could have any bearing on Peach not wanting
to stay home.

Up until I started using it my main concern had
been keeping my dogs in their own yard.

Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my concern
became how to keep them from running off for days on end.

I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the
anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g>
A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained,
doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all
the time.

IOW a great companion and friend.

Thanks Jerry!

===================== misty" <Momisty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

===================== <"Terri"@cyberhighway

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive
childs since I freely admit to having read and, I
hope, understood enough of the manual and it's
counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of
Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant
barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of
supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had been
posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to
hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our
arms while he was given the needle and having to
hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a
dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that
people that hide behind fake names are more
honest than people that use their real names.

Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have
studied and lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really
stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and
Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because
you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea,
and I don't really care.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day
and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use
and testing. You would never believe the results, so
you'll never know.


I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and
Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get
what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says,
"poor Rollei.".......right.

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===============

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY Nicole H,

That's EZ! We PRAISE them and then
they NATURALLY WANT to do what
WE want. Dogs NATURALLY WANT
to PLEASE if they AIN'T gettin jerked
and choked and physically restrained
assaulted with aversive sprays shocked
and locked in boxes and IGNORED when
they CRY for ATTENTION.


The DUMB ANIMAL ONLY PULLS if you're CHOKIN IT.


Dogs often walk in front and go through
doors first on accHOWENT of they want to PROTECT US.


If the "owner" walks a different direction the
dog will NATURALLY WANT to FOLLOW HIM.

HOWEver, if the dog DON'T WANT to FOLLOW
he's got a TRUST problem that needs to be HEALED,
not a HEELIN problem that needs to be CHOKED.


EZ come EZ go. If your dogs RUN HOWET
on you it's on accHOWENT of you didn't
pupperly handle and train them and relied
on bribery fear force and intimidation instead
of PURE PLEAURE of POSITIVE PRAISE.


Then your kids will FEAR and DISRESPECT you.

JUST LIKE YOUR DOGS:

"A Dog Is A Dog;
As A Kat Is A Kat;
As A Birdie Is A Birdie;
As A Child Is A Child;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.

ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways
To Situations And Cir***stances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.

ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS
ARE CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING.

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.


Perhaps you don't know HOWE?

Right. Like Caesar Milan. HOWEver, he
HURTS and INTIMIDATES dogs to DO it.


The Amazing Puppy Wizard doesn't teach
an "automatic sit" on accHOWENT of that's
SHEER IDIOCY and CONtraWIZE to effective
handling and working a K-9.


RIGHT. On accHOWENT of he wouldn't
WANT to HURT you by PULLIN, if you
TRAINED him withHOWET punishment.


Take off your leash and choke collar and say that.


RIGHT.

Mishandling got NUTHIN to do with MALICE
or INTENTIONAL ABUSE, it's got to do with
ORDINARY NORMAL APPROVE HANDLING
and TRAINING TECHNIQUES as TAUGHT BY
HOWER university professors and veterinary
behaviorists and professional trainers whom
The Amazing Puppy Wizard has DISCREDITED
based on CASE HISTORY DATA and 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY CURING
ALL temperment and behavior problems in ALL
dogs and ALL handlers all over the Whole Wild World.


RIGHT. The Amazing Puppy Wizard TEACHES
HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Students HOWE to DO
THAT in abHOWET WON HOWER of EZ study.

All you gotta do is FORGET EVERY THING you
THINK you know abHOWET behaivor and DO
E***ACTLY OPPOSITE as The Amazing Puppy
Wizard TEACHES HIS 100% NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Students all over the
Whole Wild World.

YOUR PALS HERE abHOWETS CALL THEM LIARS
and their posts FORGERIES by The Amazing Puppy
Wizard. <{) ; ~ ) >


We covered THAT already.

That's EZ! We GET the dog to NATURALLY
WANT to WORK for PURE PLEASURE of
POSITIVE PRAISE and we BACK IT UP
with INSTALLATION of COMMANDS as a CONDITIONAL REFLEX.


That's pretty much INSANE. The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's METHOD E***ERCISES the "dominant
and submissive" NATURE of the Beast in HIS 4
Step Heeling Pattern Exercise, wherebye the dog
and handler make left and right circles and turns.
On the "inside" turn the dog "subordinates", on the
"HOWEtside" turn he "dominates". On the HEEL
or return to heel he's a PARTNER and on the COME
command he's "SUBORDINATE".

THAT way the dog is NEVER CHALLENGED
yet always reinforce his PARTNERSHIP and
follows your LEADERSHIP in a NON PHYSICAL MATCH OF WITS.

Yeah. THAT'S PART of the MENTAL ILLNESS
that CAUSES HOWER DOG LOVERS to HURT
INTIMIDATE and MURDER HOWER BEST DOGS.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Archives on Google
have PLENTY of CASE HISTORY DATA to PROVE
the CAUSE of ALL temperment and behavior problems
is DOMINANCE by and abusive mentally ill owner
OR the INNOCENT VICTIM of PROFESSIONAL
TRAINERS and UNIVERSITY TRAINED BEHAVIORISTS.


A DOG IS A DOG.


You mean he's FEARFUL. ALL "DOMINANCE"
is FEAR, UNLESS it's MATING competition
between ***ually UN MUTILATED dogs.


You mean you don't know HOWE
to pupperly handle your dogs.


That's sheer idiocy. Your dog is AFRAID.


OF WHAT, THEIR TOYS???

THAT'S INSANE. Dogs GET HYPERACTIVE
on accHOWENT of FEAR FORCE INTIMIDATION
and CONFINEMENT to a BOX.


They'd WANT to DO what YOU WANT if you
knew HOWE to TRAIN them witHOWET bribery avoidance and force.


You're AFRAID to take your dog off leash in pubic.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard's breeds are English
Mastiffs and Great Danes and HE TRAINS THEM
JUST LIKE HOWE HE'D TRAIN A Chihuahua on
accHOWENT of A DOG IS A DOG and ALL DOGS
HANDLE and TRAIN THE SAME SAME SAME SAME
on accHOWENT OF:

"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Could Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Dogs,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >


That so? Perhaps you haven't been READIN.

And The Amazing Puppy Wizard will PROVE
they're BOTH LIARS based on their own POSTED
CASE HISTORYS in The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
HUMAN BEHAVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORY.

You're settin in it. RELAX. Take off your shoes.
Care for a stick of gum? Smoke 'm if you got 'm.

Your newfHOWEND friend taragreen2 is a PROVEN
LIAR and DOG ABUSER and ACTIVE LONG TERM
INCURABLE MENTAL CASE who JERKS and CHOKES
dogs on her pronged spiked pinch choke collar and GL
neck twister and LIES abHOWET IT.

It's ALL in her POSTED CASE HISTORY and
if you can't BELIEVE what you'll SEE when
you LOOK IT UP in The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's Archives on Google then JUST ASK
The Amazing Puppy Wizard to CITE HER
OWN LYING DOG ABUSING WORDS...

Ask her abHOWET her LEAVE IT COMMAND.

BWEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!

You WON'T.

THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy
Wizard SEZ "DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT
POST HERE abHOWETS UNLESS it's to
say "THANK YOU, The Amazing Puppy
Wizard, your METHOD / MACHINE SAVED
MY DOG'S LIFE. G-D BLESS YOU!" Ferstaich?
The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

issues on lead,

adjusting


fenced in

Eventually he'll be

people or


The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME is the perfect
synergy of love, pride, desire, self will, greed,
ego, fear, hate, arrogance, disbelief, jealousy,
embarrassment, embellishment, shame, guilt,
anger, aversion, attraction, revulsion, change,
permanence, enlightenment, insult, attrition,
and conditioning.

It's the perfect fusion of The Word...,
in the physical.

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY nichole h,


Nope. But you gotta TREAT them the same same.


NOPE! It's ALL the same same same same;

You GET The Critter You TRAINED

A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.

ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING


Let's try to stick to REALITY. We're talkin
abHOWET REAL LIFE and REAL DEATH:

ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Cir***stances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.

Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.


VISUALIZE? You ain't gotta GUESS
and VISUALIZE or FIGGER NUTHIN.

TRY THIS:

"It is by muteness that a dog becomes
so utterly beyond value."

Like a confessor Priest?

"With him,
words play no torturing tricks.........., "
--John Galsworthy.

Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...
Their behaviors reflect
HOWER words, actions and training quirks.
Jerry HOWE, The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

ON ACCHOWENT OF:

"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Could Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Dogs,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

And when IT won't LISTEN to you on accHOWENT
of you haven't got the RELATIONSHIP to COMPEL
him to naturally WANT to DO as you TELL IT, you'll
HURT INTIMIDATE and when NECESSARY, MURDER
IT and BLAME THE DOG for NOT BEING WILLIN to
BE NICE when you choke shock crate and bribe IT.


You CANNOT DISAGREE with SCIENCE.

On accHOWENT of:

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.


RIGHT! On accHOWENT of "you got no
idea hat you're talkin abHOWET."

The PROBLEM here is "adult" HUMAN BEHAVIOR,
not DOGS or CHILDREN. They DO as they've been
DONE TO, they ONLY RESPOND to the ADULT
HUMAN BEHAVIORS they've been CONDITIONED to.

You meand dog abusing mental cases who
hurt bribe crate intimidate and MURDER HOWER
BEST DOGS on accHOWENT of they FRAGILE
DEFECTIVE EGOS, WEAK FEARUFUL MINDS and INFERIORITY COMPLEXES.

INDEED. On accHOWENT of those are SYMPTOMS
of MENTAL ILLNESS FEAR GREED and AVARICE,
the hallmark of PROFESSIONAL TRAINERS and
university trained BEHAVIORISTS who'll DO and SAY
ANY THING to DEFEND their miserable worthless
reputations, careers and degrees:

WordWeb
Noun AVARICE

1.Reprehensible acquisitiveness; insatiable
desire for wealth (personified as one of the
deadly sins)

2. Extreme greed for material wealth


On accHOWENT of in the wild we live day bye day
and SHARE with HOWER FAMILY PACK to insure ITS survival.

Or there are alphalphas and betas and omegas
and all the other MALARKEY you bums rely on
to JUSTIFY HURTING INTIMIDATING BRIBING
CRATING and MURDERING INNOCENT CRITTERS.

That so? Seems tommy and company PREFER
SHOCKING and CHOKING dogs to MAKE them
LISTEN to their commands.

RIGHT. On accHOWENT of tommy hurts
intimidates and murders dogs he's AFRAID
to HURT and INTIMIDATE someMOORE.

RIGHT! You'd have to say HOWE you PREFER
to HURT and INTIMIDATE and AVOID the behaviors
of the cunning domestic puppy dog you don't have
the INTELLECT to HOWEtwit.

Seems we've gone from dog behavior to human
behavior to mental behavior and are NHOWE fixin
to BLAME it on PSYCHIC behavior?

You bums will stop at NUTHIN to defend you absurd thinkin.

Yeah. The last SAR "TRAINER" we had here
RUINED her SELECTIVELY BRED HAND
PICKED and TESTED SAR dog JIVE by
jerking choking and bribing IT:

Here's HOWER SUCCESSFUL SAR trainer:

From: Lynn K. (javagsd@yahoo.com)
Subject: Re: Free Feeding (Was Re: Repeating Commands)
Date: 2001-07-17 21:59:53 PST
dogstar716@aol.com (DogStar716) wrote in message
news:<20010717101836.26725.00004349@ng-mi1.aol.com>...

Not necessarily. Remember that there is value added
to the treat by virtue of getting it from the handler as a
reward.

That's the reason I handfed Java for a week.

To add value to the food.

It isn't just another piece of kibble when it
comes from Mom as a reward.

Lynn K.

From: Lynn K. (javagsd@yahoo.com)
Subject: Re: Kali gets her CDX!
Date: 2003-10-26 13:49:37 PST
"KrisHur" <kris_brock@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<vpnufuisi9pve2@corp.supernews.com>...> THANKS!

You deserve it! You have my empathy on the heeling
problem. 2 of 29 qualified in Open A & B this morning
at Sacramento - ring fouled overnight by conformation
people exercising their dogs.

A Borzoi vomited on the spot, a Rottie peed on it, and
almost every other dog (including Java) dropped their
nose to the spot and started tracking.

ARRRGH!

Lynn K.

BWEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!

IMBECILES!

Just wipe you skeevy body with a
pork chop pryor to trainin and your
dog will follow you to the next garbage
can or carcass on the side of the road.


You mean there AIN'T NO SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR?

There already is... and The Amazing Puppy
Wizard is takin the tolls. Here's a couple of
BIG PAY OFFS for The Amazing Puppy Wizard:


"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.

Lynn K.

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer."

Lynn K.

captain arthur haggerty SEZ: "A CHIN CHUCK" Makes A
ResoundingSound Distraction: "When You Chuck The Dog
The Sound Will Travel Up The Mandible To The Ears And
Give A Popping Sound To The Dog."

"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My
Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My
Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into
Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And
Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sinofabitch.


"Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper
wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable
dogs may require you to progress to striking them more
sharply.

REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG.

Now you are ready to progress to what
most people think of as force-fetching:
the ear pinch.

Make the dog's need to stop the pinching
so urgent that resisting your will fades in
importance.

but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to
escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch
the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth,
get out the shotshell.

Try pinching the ear between the metal casing
and the collar, even the buckle on the collar.

Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in

With your hand on the collar and ear, say, 'fetch.'

Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick.

Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy.
You can press the dog's ear with a shotshell instead of your
thumb; Say 'fetch' while pressing the dummy against its lips
and pinching its ear."

From: Rocky (2dogs@rocky-dog.com)
Subject: Re: How to handle aggressive situations
Date: 2004-10-19 19:42:54 PST

Melanie L Chang said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

Or, at the other end of the spectrum, Rocky cowers,
thinking I'm angry at him - a reason I don't "yuk out"
others' dogs at agility trials or training.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
"J1Boss" <j1boss@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040324071828.07753.00000001@mb-m18.aol.com...

"sionnach" <rhyfelwr@msn.com> wrote in message news:c3qi15$2biuoh$1@ID-45033.news.uni-berlin.de...


An INSENSITIVE DOG???


"Rocky" <> wrote in message news:Xns92FEEC097E4AAaustralianshepherdca@130.133. 1.4...


BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.

"I know this is a hard subject to bring up without starting the
whole cruelty thread again so I'll state my opinion once and
won't defend it further: any method can be cruel for some
dogs.

Even the slightest punishment was wrong for Cubbe at the
beginning, but w e'vecomealongwaysincethen.Shetrusts
us now as I mentioned in a recent post. Point is, she's been
rewarded for coming, but she's never been punished, even in
the mildest way, for not coming.

Is it time for that?

What might I look for to tell?"
"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshuler@comcast.net> wrote in message news:McYnb.45145$ao4.106231@attbi_s51...


"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES and
ASYLUM ESCAPEES.

BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!!

http://tinyurl.com/389al
In this video, the dog is constantly jerking his
head all around. I'm not SHORE why he's doing that.
If he's doing it because he is being shocked repeatedly
into getting onto that skateboard, then it is my
opinion that Fred Hassen is a dog abuser in the
extreme. As would anyone be, no matter how much
"experience" they had shocking dogs, nor how
nationally "respected" they are/were.

If, HOWEver, the dog is jerking his head all around
because he is happy and for no other reason, well,
then, never mind. I've just never seen this kind of
behavior from a dog before, so maybe Fred can
explain what would cause a dog to move his head
like that.

Here's a other:
http://tinyurl.com/2v9oh

And that pretty much sums up HOWE COME
you freakin lying dog abusing mental cases
can't post here abHOWETS noMOORE.

HOWEver, just to twist the knife:

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???

"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.

You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."

You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
is COURTEOUS?

"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
as possible. What does this mean?

When you bring home the Bitter Apple for
the first time, spray one squirt directly into
the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog
won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore
him and continue your normal behavior."

--Mike Dufort
author of the zero selling book
"Courteous Canines"

You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?

You think HOWER pal matty is playin with a full deck?

Ask THIS MENTAL CASE:

And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."

Or THESE TWO:

"A while back someone posted about an Alasdair
MacRae clinic: "Is he gonna hit my dog?!?" Well,
Jack did hit my dog. Actually I'd call it a sharp tap
of the crook to the nose, and I doubt it was very
painful, but it did sort of freak me out and it DEFINITELY
got Solo's attention.

And yeah, I admit that I would prefer not having
my dog whacked, but I signed on to this clinic
to take in the methods wholesale.

In this context, the correction worked -- it's not
something I would do in civilian life, but Solo
can take a lot more around stock than he could
anywhere else since he wants the sheep so badly.

And I know Jack would not have done it if he
though Solo couldn't take it," melanie chang.


THAT'S HOWE COME your dog is DYIN from
STRESS INDUCED SEIZURES aka The Puppy
Wizard's SYNDROME.

And NHOWE we're back to facin HOWER
OWN HUMAN NATURE matty, the NATURE
of a NATURAL BORN LYING DOG ABUSING
COWARD and THAT'S HOWE COME you're
ACTIVE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL
CASES, matty.

Like THIS WON:


"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosmakos@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20 ginger57@my-deja.com wrote:


Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."

8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."

"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the
effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.

Should I have refused to groom them?

Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter." Lynn K.
Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob> wrote in message
news:<04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@TeraNews>.. .

NHOWE THAT'S FUNNY.

AIN'T IT.

You'd HAVE TO BE a doGgamened MENTAL
CASE to write sumpthin like THAT. Wouldn't
you, matty:

WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day
For Twenty Years

I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM

"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-depression)
requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every
day.

I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to learn
more, while happily sharing pertinent information
I have learned. But if I were ever to post such sh*t,
I would hope that every other reader of this group
would be rightfully outraged."

"Community is an evolutionary thing that we earn
the right to participate in by observing the
easily understood rules and contributing to in
constructive ways."

Lynn K.

-----------------------------------------

"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her
- she wouldn't take them. I particularly remember
a comment she made about scarey side effects of
Lithium. Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think
I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of
any side effect is far less frightening than the
very real dangers of life without it."

Lynn K.
-----------------------------------------

You'd have to be soft as a sneaker full of
puppy poo to say you bums ain't lying dog
abusing punk thug cowards and active long
term incurable MENTAL CASES, eh matty?

You know, in the good o'l days they'd of locked
you up in a closet so's folks wouldn't see that
your family has a SIMPLETON like your pal lois:


LYNN K. and LOIS E, and a BiLateral, BiPolar
conversation on Mental problems. LYNN AND LOIS
Almost 50 years on mental illness medications combined -----------------------------------------


"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her
- she wouldn't take them. I particularly remember
a comment she made about scarey side effects of
Lithium. Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think
I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of
any side effect is far less frightening than the
very real dangers of life without it."

Lynn K.
-----------------------------------------


LYNN K. and the UNQUIET MIND

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosmakos@home.com)
Subject: Re: Where is Darlene?
Date: 1999/09/03 BoxHill wrote:

Yeah. It's interesting, but kind of
watered down for the mass market, if
you know what I mean. There's really
quite a lot of good work out there and
decent research. Thank God.

Lynn K.
---------------------------------------

MOTHER AND CHILD REUNION "KUCKOO!! CUCKOO!!!"
MOTHER (LOIS E.) 22 YEARS on TRICYCLICS, DAUGHTER BIPOLAR...

YOU DO THE MATH

"What's really terrific, is now days you can say proudly,
'I take anti-depressives'"

-------------------------------------

From: Gary & lois Edwards (garyl@bmi.net)
Subject: Re: Where is Darlene?
Date: 1999/09/02

BEEN ON TRICYCLICS FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS

"I don't take lithium, but I've been on trycyclics
for about 22 years. Been there, done that, have
the t-shirt to prove it. What's really terrific,
is now days you can say proudly,

"I take anti-depressives". Back when I started
taking them it was seen as something shameful.
If you cut your leg off, and were lying there with
a bleeding stump, you'd never let the word
depressed, pass your lips, or the doc's would say,
"You're depressed, on medication? Well, can't have
any pain meds.....you could become addicted."

The good old days. I actually had a Great Aunt who's
father locked her in her room back in the twenties
because she was simple. A shame that medication
probably would have helped her live a normal life.

No Denna, I was just saying with Darlene's
personality, she has a way of making grandiose
plans when at the top of her manic cycle....as
does my daughter. I wasn't saying that anyone
with problems could be counted on to be
irresponsible."

Lois E.
-------------------------------------

You know what matty? Readin the POSTED
CASE HISTORYS we got here abHOWETS
WON would thing EVERY rpdb'r was a freakin
MENTAL CASE a LIAR and a DOG ABUSER.

You'd think you maybe got a CABAL of EVIL
or INSANITY goin, just according to POSTED
CASE HISTORY DATA:

Leah Effexor for chronic depression, in denial
about being mentally ill. Has taken
several other mentally ill medications
before settling on effexor for her chronic
mental problems. Recenly changed to
another ANTI PSYCHOTIC prescription.

"I don't think Jerry intentionally lies. I think he twists
things around in his own mind until he actually believes
what he's saying."

Jerry is the only poster here who gives dangerous
advice. Google for spike and squirt. And let's not
forget the times he's told posters whose dogs have
medical problems that his halfwits-end program could
cure them.

PetsMart Pet Trainer
My Kids, My Students, My Life


"It was kind of funny, in an absurd way. The rabbit
was completely still, eyes open and glazed, dried
blood in his ears and mouth, with his back legs
stiffening quickly.

It was her pet rabbit, not a wild bunny, so
that made it much harder for her.

And he was killed by bichons.

Her dogs had torn it apart. My one student who had
shown up (another weird thing about the night) and I
had to continuously check for heart and bowel sounds
for her, until she could accept that the rabbit was dead.

(The rigor mortis in his back legs she attributed to "pain").

Full moon.

Canine Action Dog Trainer http://www.canineaction.com

YOUR STUDENT, leah. Like that RECENT GRADUATE
STUDENT Rottie who'd been in your SOCIALIZATION
classes since IT was ten weeks old who RECENTLY
MURDERED a little innocent DEAD DOG at the park.


Yeah. You and ed w of PET LOSS dot COIN.


From: Leah (dfrntdrums@aol.comMURK-OFF)
Subject: Re: It's Over
Date: 2001-07-13 18:46:21 PST


I had that impulse the moment that Buck's
eyes closed and he went limp. I wanted to
scream, "No! I made a mistake!"

I'm just glad I didn't break down until that moment.

I was able to smile at him and say happy things
while he was watching me. So at least the last
thing he saw and heard was the most important
thing in his life - me, telling him I loved him."

REMEMBER dog lovers, when you post here
abHOWETS The Amazing Puppy Wizard
will leave you F'd off for your dignity and self
respect, if you ever thought you had any.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

Your positive pal, Jerry "Mr NICE Guy," Howe,

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{}; ~ } >

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer

"Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.

"If you've got them by the balls their hearts
and minds will follow,"
John Wayne.

GOT MILK?

ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <{}YPW; ~ } >
oo-oo

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY lynda,

Cc's for EMBARRASSMENT FACTOR:
lynda07@hotmail.com;dermer@uwm.edu;
tote@dog-play.com; kelleyMethod@aol.com;
Lord_durron@comcast.net


You mean 'HOWEDY lying dog abusing punk
thug cowards and active long term incurable
MENTAL CASES who taught me to jerk and
choke and punish crate bribe and intimidate
my dog and LIE abHOWET it', DON'T YOU.

You've had PROBLEMS with Jake since the git go
you lying dog abusing punk thug coward mental case:

- Apr 11, 2004 by Lynda -
Re: Puppy training/dominance - please help

Just a quick note to say thanks SO much for
all of the constructive advice I received -

I'm putting it into practice and as you all know, it works!

Thanks again Lynda

--------------------------

THANK YOU, lyinda. The Amazing Puppy
Wizard COULDN'T DO IT withHOWET
YOUR HEELP!

WELCOME to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
HUMAN BEHAVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORY.

- Jun 1, 2004 by Lynda -
Re: 5 month old pup still biting

Thanks Yvonne, I'll look forward to hearing from you
again. I have learnt a lot in only a few days and can
now see the mental stimulation is important. I gave
Jake one of those toys today where the treats ...

---------------------------------

From: Lynda (lynda07@hotmail.com)
Subject: Re: Training problem
Date: 2004-11-01 08:09:11 PST

I have the same problem with my 10 month old dog.
My commnands just do not seem to apply to him
outside the house and I am desperate for him to learn
he has to come back when I shout him when we're in
the woods on a fun walk just as much as he does when
I call him in the house.

I'm taking him to a new obedience class this weekend,
hopefully this will teach me how to get him to come back
in all cir***stances. I just hope I've not left it too late at 10
months.

I'll let you know what I learn.

Sorry I've not been much help at the moment though.

Lynda

------------------------

Looks like you're a SLOW LEARNER. BWEEEEEEEEJAAAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAA!!!

To E***PIATE his anxiHOWESNESS.


To E***PIATE his anxiHOWESNESS.


On accHOWENT of he NEEDS to RUN
to E***PIATE his anxiHOWESNESS
which is HOWE COME he's HYPERACTIVE.


On accHOWENT of he's not TRUSTWORTHY
if someWON else should be abHOWET.


So noWON will SEE him.


INDEED.

COWARDICE is the hallmark of the lying dog
abusing punk thug coward MENTAL CASE.

THAT'S HOWE COME you're askin HOWE to
HURT and INTIMIDATE your dog NHOWE that
he's becoming viciHOWES on accHOWENT of
you HURT INTIMIDATE and BRIBE him:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised
for the good of its victims,
may be the most oppressive.
Those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end,
for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience." -
- C.S. Lewis.

"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
Aeschylus (525BC-456BC), Agamemnon.


He's OBJECTING to you CHOKIN him
you freakin lying dog abusing punk thug
coward ACTIVE LONG TERM INCURABLE
mental case.

Perhaps THAT'S HOWE COME he won't
come when you call him.

"The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
may acquire those rights
which never could have been withholden from them
but by the hand of tyranny.
The question is not can they REASON,
nor can they TALK,
but can they SUFFER?" -
- Jeremy Bentham


Yeah. That can be a REALLY HARD problem
to E***TINGUISH NEARLY INSTANTLY. You'd
have to stand at maybe four intersections for
five minutes each to E***TINGUISH chasin
cars IF you could LEARN HOWE to CON-TROLL
him withHOWET CHOKING him someMOORE
like HOWE you TAUGHT HIM to chase cars
jump up at people.

Those behaviors WILL GET WORSE and
your dog WILL BECOME VICIHOWES if
you don't GET CON-TROLL of YOUR HUMAN
NATURE and STOP HURTING and INTIMIDATING
your dog or you'll MURDER HIM like THIS
100% NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Student LEARNED AFTER IT WAS
TOO LATE: <"Terri"@cyberhighway

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive
childs since I freely admit to having read and, I
hope, understood enough of the manual and it's
counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of
Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant
barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of
supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had been
posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to
hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our
arms while he was given the needle and having to
hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a
dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that
people that hide behind fake names are more
honest than people that use their real names.

Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have
studied and lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really
stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and
Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because
you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea,
and I don't really care.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day
and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use
and testing. You would never believe the results, so
you'll never know.


I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and
Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get
what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.


Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?) ===============


Like HOWE he TRIES to ATTACK cars.


UNTIL YOU CHOKE HIM.

Which is HOWE COME he rears up, like janet's dog Franklin.

HE'S GONNA ATTACK A PERSON and SOON.


There AIN'T NUTHIN WORSE than gettin CHOKED.
THAT'S The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FAVORITE
move when confronting a viciHOWES man. It ALWAYS
WORKS JUST LIKE FREAKIN MAGICK. Ask
PROFESSOR SCRUFF SHAKE dermer of UofWI
department of ****-ytic behaviorISM. It's got
sumpthin to do with reflexive memory and restimulation.

Like when you HURT your dog to TRAIN IT.


Yeah. He's what they call "IN DRIVE." Ask leah
abHOWET that, she knows EVERY THING
abHOWET HOWETA CON-TROLL DOGS attacking
and MURDERIN innocent critters when their
"PRAY DRIVE SUDDENLY KICKS IN" and IT
goes HOWETA CON-TROLL.

It's JUST a DOG THING:

"It was kind of funny, in an absurd way. The rabbit
was completely still, eyes open and glazed, dried
blood in his ears and mouth, with his back legs
stiffening quickly.

It was her pet rabbit, not a wild bunny, so
that made it much harder for her.

And he was killed by bichons.

Her dogs had torn it apart. My one student who had
shown up (another weird thing about the night) and I
had to continuously check for heart and bowel sounds
for her, until she could accept that the rabbit was dead.

(The rigor mortis in his back legs she attributed to "pain").

Full moon.

Canine Action Dog Trainer http://www.canineaction.com

YOUR STUDENT, leah. Like that RECENT GRADUATE
STUDENT Rottie who'd been in your SOCIALIZATION
classes since IT was ten weeks old who RECENTLY
MURDERED a little innocent DEAD DOG at the park.


Yeah. You and ed w of PET LOSS dot COIN.

You hurt intimidate and murder critters, leah.

Really Bad Day
Date: 2004-03-21 17:34:07 PST HOWEDY leah,
"Leah" <dfrntdrums@aol.comMURK-OFF> wrote in message news:20040321194728.23546.00000101@mb-m15.aol.com...

BWEEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

You're no dog trainer, you're a FRAUD.


Class??? You don't have trainin classes you
teach people to throw treats to dogs for mindless
unthinking behaviors and tell folks to jerk and
choke and shock dogs when bribing and avoiding
behaviors doesn't work an then you try to get HOWET callin THAT, trainin.


AnyWON who'd trust you to train them to handle
their dog was in a state of shock or takin anti psychotic
meds before they started.

Tough break. R.I.P., dog.

-----------------------

"I don't think Jerry intentionally lies. I think he twists
things around in his own mind until he actually believes what he's saying."


You wanna SEE "AMUSING"?:
Your dog is becoming viciHOWES
on accHOWENT of you CHOKE him.


EMBARRASSMENT IS NOT IN YOUR CHARACTER
or you WOULDN'T POST HERE abHOWETS:

- Apr 11, 2004 by Lynda -
Re: Puppy training/dominance - please help
Just a quick note to say thanks SO much for all of the
constructive advice I received - I'm putting it into practice
and as you all know, it works! Thanks again Lynda

- Jun 1, 2004 by Lynda -
Re: 5 month old pup still biting
Thanks Yvonne, I'll look forward to hearing from you
again. I have learnt a lot in only a few days and can
now see the mental stimulation is important. I gave
Jake one of those toys today where the treats ... BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

When you AIN'T CHOKIN him.


Yeah. But THAT won't CON-TROLL your
HYPERACTIVE HOWETA CON-TROLL
dog durin the week.


Yeah. THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing
Puppy Wizard LOVES COLD SNAPS. THAT'S
when the MENTAL CASES you're asking for
advice have their dogs locked in boxes 22
HOWERS a day on accHOWENT of they
GO INSANE when you WITHDRAW their
E***ERCISE INDUCED ENDOMORPHIN
FIX.

DOGS GET ADDICTED to E***ERCISE
and HAVE WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS
JUST LIKE A JUNKIE KICKING THE MAIN
VEIN. BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!


Your MENTALLY ILL pals think dogs
canot be E***ERCISED till their
bones finish growin.

THAT'S INSANE.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard's dogs are
WORKING PROTECTION by six months
of age.

DOGS DO NOT BREAK DHOWEN FROM
PHYSICAL E***ERCISE they BREAK
DHOWEN on accHOWENT of STRESS
INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE, aka
The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAA!!!

You mean 'what do you think lying dog
abusing punk thug cowards and active
long term incurable MENTAL CASES
who got NO IDEA abHOWET HOWE
to handle train and CONdition a critter
any doGgamened better than they've
done with their kids and SP-HOWESES:

You GET The Critter You TRAINED

A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.

ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING


You're welcome:

ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Cir***stances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.

Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.


"It is by muteness that a dog becomes
so utterly beyond value."

Like a confessor Priest?

"With him,
words play no torturing tricks.........., "
--John Galsworthy.

Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...
Their behaviors reflect
HOWER words, actions and training quirks.
Jerry HOWE, The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

ON ACCHOWENT OF:

"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Could Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Dogs,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >


From: The Puppy Wizard (ThePuppyWizard@EarthLink.Net)
Subject: Re: Puppy Temper Tantrums...
Date: 2004-11-20 10:38:52 PST HOWEDY lynda,
"Lynda" <lynda07@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:krsup019jfqne9p2979ibbd2d2pu4g162i@4ax.com...


You're STILL at Wits' End, lynda. You just started
a NEW training class two weeks ago after FAILING
to pupperly handle and train your dog for MONTHS,
thanks to the ADVICE of your mentally ill pals here
abHOWETS.

It's ALL in your own posted case history, lynda...
some of which is posted below, for the edification
of HOWER readers and your EMBARRASSMENT.


On accHOWENT of you HURT and INTIMIDATED HIM.


STILL IS. AIN'T IT, lynda.

REINFORCEMENT NEVER ENDS. HOWEDY lynda,
"Lynda" <lynda07@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:8cqag0h8vjjce52drei6fkeh8m2mkeu1q0@4ax.com...

You've been following the advice of HOWER
dog lovers and NHOWE your dog is HOWETA
CON-TROLL, and HAS been HOWETA CON-
TROL since you started mishanling and abusing
him as your pals here have encouraged you.


Your posting history will show you the grief
you've had thanks to your mentally ill lying
dog abusing punk thug coward pals here:


- Jul 21, 2004 by Lynda -
Training questions - Border Collie

Hi, My 6 month old (male) Border Collie was doing
well with basic commands to start with but recently
(say the last 6 weeks) totally ignores them. I know
he knows what I mean because on occasions where ...

- Jun 11, 2004 by Lynda -
Swimming
Hi, Excuse my total ignorance but I'm looking for
guidance on when I could let my pup near/in water
deeper than a few inches? Jake LOVES water and
I see loads of owners throwing sticks into the local ...


- May 15, 2004 by Lynda -

Lead training pup (quite long)
Hi all, I have had my 4 month old Border Collie Jake
since he was 7 weeks. I spent a lot of time before he
could go out ie before vaccinations, taking him out in
my arms to as many places as I could where ...

- Mar 27, 2004 by Lynda -
Border Collie pup - exercise
Can anyone offer any advice on how much exercise a
Border Collie pup should have. I have a 10 week old
BC who will soon be able to go out, having had his
vaccinations. I know they have a lot of energy ...