the puppy wizard

HOWEDY andrea,

That's animal abuse. You ought to study
your FREE copy of The Amazin Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual or get rid of all
your animals.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY Nick,

Well you'll enjoy havin them together.
HOWEver, you won't be able allHOWE
them to play HOWEtside cause your
dog will murder them, as a result of
the trainin you'll need to do to make
them friends inside their HOWES.


It's just a matter of a dog bein a dog, Nick.
Dogs like to chase and murder small critters.
It's what terriers do:

From: culprit (culprit@flashmail.com)
Subject: Re: Patterdale Terriers and puppies
Date: 2004-05-21 16:10:29 PST

for example, in the UKC breed standard,
"honorable" scars, gained while hunting,
are not to be held against the dog. it's
important that people see that these aren't
just a cute little dog, they're also tough and
game hunters! -kelly

----------------------

Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.medication Date: 2004-04-15 00:54:24 PST
In article <c5l0mv$2tpm6$1@ID-58739.news.uni-berlin.de>,
"metta" <kelly_marsops_NoSpam@msn.com> wrote:


You'll need to learn HOWE to make
them friends. You'll need a crate and
a variety of trainin tools:

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.

Lynn K.

"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosmakos@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20 ginger57@my-deja.com wrote:


Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think
a prong works better than a choke with less chance
of injury to the dog in this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion
to cats, but should be used under the direction
of a trainer who knows how to instruct the owner
in their proper use.

Electronics can take the form of shock, sonic or
citronella collars. At that time the owner will train
with electronics instead of food or whatever other
reward system was being used."

8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the
dog. Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog.
I think a prong works better than a choke with less
chance of injury to the dog in this situation.

Have the dog in a sit-stay next to you with most
of the slack out of the leash and let the cat walk
through the room and up to the dog if it wishes
(this is why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."

BWWWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Lynn K. wrote:

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer."

Lynn K.

---------------------------------

And then DENIES it:
Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob> wrote in message
news:<04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@TeraNews>.. .

And then DENIES GETTIN BAGGED FOR LYING!

THAT'S HOWE COME we KNOW she's
a MENTAL CASE.

And HERE'S HOWE COME we PROVE IT:

WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day
For Twenty Years

I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM

"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-
depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and
50 mg of Zoloft every day.

I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to
learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
information I have learned.

But if I were ever to post such sh*t, I would hope that
every other reader of this group would be rightfully
outraged."

"Community is an evolutionary thing that we earn
the right to participate in by observing the easily
understood rules and contributing to in constructive
ways."

Lynn K.

-----------------------------------------

LYNN K. and LOIS E, and a BiLateral, BiPolar
conversation on Mental problems. LYNN AND
LOIS Almost 50 years on mental illness medications combined -----------------------------------------


"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her - she wouldn't
take them. I particularly remember a comment she
made about scarey side effects of Lithium.

Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think I'm qualified to
say that the very low risk of any side effect is far less
frightening than the very real dangers of life without it."

Lynn K.
-----------------------------------------

LYNN K. and the UNQUIET MIND

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosmakos@home.com) Subject: Re: Where is
Darlene? Date: 1999/09/03 BoxHill wrote:

Yeah. It's interesting, but kind of watered down for the
mass market, if you know what I mean. There's really
quite a lot of good work out there and decent research.

Thank God.

Lynn K.
---------------------------------------

MOTHER AND CHILD REUNION "KUCKOO!!
CUCKOO!!!" MOTHER (LOIS E.) 22 YEARS on
TRICYCLICS, DAUGHTER BIPOLAR...

YOU DO THE MATH

"What's really terrific, is now days you can
say proudly, 'I take anti-depressives'"

-------------------------------------

From: Gary & lois Edwards (garyl@bmi.net)
Subject: Re: Whereis Darlene? Date: 1999/09/02

BEEN ON TRICYCLICS FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS

"I don't take lithium, but I've been on trycyclics for
about 22 years. Been there, done that, have the t-
shirt to prove it. What's really terrific, is now days
you can say proudly, "I take anti-depressives".

Back when I started taking them it was seen as
something shameful. If you cut your leg off, and
were lying there with a bleeding stump, you'd
never let the word depressed, pass your lips, or
the doc's would say, "You're depressed, on
medication? Well, can't have any pain meds.....
you could become addicted."

The good old days. I actually had a Great Aunt
who's father locked her in her room back in the
twenties because she was simple. A shame that
medication probably would have helped
her live a normal life.

No Denna, I was just saying with Darlene's
personality, she has a way of making grandiose
plans when at the top of her manic cycle....as
does my daughter. I wasn't saying that anyone
with problems could be counted on to be
irresponsible."

Lois E.

-------------------------------------


From: metta (kelly_marsops_NoSpam@msn.com)
Subject: choices.
Newsgroups: alt.support.dissociation
Date: 2004-05-12 15:26:35 PST

something new happened this week. or maybe
not new, but newly noticed. had a f*ght with SO.

and felt bad, at fault, responsible for causing him
to be mad with me. the usually negative stuff. and
i thought, i should let this go. it's not my fault, i'm
not bad, it's just a little thing, not important (this is
the "new" me, things i learned from it, from meditation,
from growing up...).

and then i decided that no, i wanted to slip. i wanted
to screw up and be bad. i wanted, no, needed to be
bad. to be responsible. to be at fault for everything.
i needed to feel helpless, hopeless, pointless.

i ached to feel that black ball of pain taking over my
heart again. it's been so long. i wanted to be
destructive, to me and everything around me.

i took lots of klonopin, lots of soma, drank much
wine. slept on the couch, couldn't be near SO,
couldn't think of the good things in my life.

needed to keep this badness around me.

woke up, had a test to take, so took test and passed,
but still felt icky, wanted to go home and take more
klonopin. but decided instead to have lunch with a
friend. because i didn't want to feel bad anymore.
didn't want to e responsible for bad feelings. didn't
want to make myself hurt more.

so went to lunch and did some breathing and felt
better. and now feel back to normal, everything is
fine, life is happy and good and my mood is wonderful.

but i keep thinking about that moment of choice.
i *knew* i was choosing to feel bad. i could have
stopped it. i could have been smart and banish the
negative thoughts. but i didn't want to.

this is new for me, being healthy, happy, not blaming
me for everything that goes bad. and sometimes i feel like i
don't know how to be healthy. i don't know how to
be "sane". and it would be so much easier to just slip
back into destructive habits. to be bad me again.

i'm scared that i'll make that choice again. but not
choose to come back to my "good" life. i'm scared
i'll stay bad me. why did i need to be bad so much?

i think this has to do with m*thr's day. stupid stupid day.

*sigh*

-kelly

--
did we expect that life was ever fair, my god...
i sowed a field of rose and reaped a whipping rod =====================


THAT'S PART OF YOUR INSANITY.


No. He'll FIGHT, like your dogs do.

From: culprit (culprit@flashmail.com)
Subject: Re: dominance
Date: 2004-03-09 10:41:22 PST
"Tricia9999" <tricia9999@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040309115155.29635.00001093@mb-m21.aol.com...


and i don't think you've seen my dogs interact.
just because they're pits doesn't mean that every
little snark is automatically hardwired fighting instinct.

it just means that i have to be more careful to
prevent such snarks. and since i've removed
the resources they're being possessive of, the
snarky behavior has decreased dramatically
(well ok, completely).

if they were just fighting to fight, as you suggest,
they certainly wouldn't need a toy as an excuse,
would they?

and if they were actually fighting, as opposed
to just snarking over toys, i'd have had a much
more serious situation on hand, and wouldn't
have been able to separate them so easily, and
with so few injuries to the dogs.

don't worry, of course i'll manage the household
carefully, there's a reason they're never alone
together, and now they don't even play outside
together unless there are two adults present in
the yard with them. i don't deny their heritage,
but i hardly think it precludes normal adolescent
power shifts in the pack structure.

-kelly

================

And THAT'S HOWE COME it's important
to KNOW you're a MENTAL CASE.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY spot,


Declawing cats is cruel. Not cause it HURTS
for a VERY LONG TIME, but cause the kat
loses his CONFIDENCE, like a dog when IT
is surgically ***ually MUTILATED.


SHOWENDS like you think kats should
be surgically mutilated, spot.


You mean, cause you don't know HOWE
to train a dog or kat to be friendly and gentle.


THAT'S their HUMAN'S job, spot.

janet boss's kats ATTACK her when
she punishes her dogs.

You can't allHOWE the children to fight, spotty.
Not even if you're standin there with a garden
hose to break them up if it gets too bad, like
HOWE tara o. aka tee and suja does.


But if the kat has claws IT can knock
the dog's eyes HOWET. Either way,
someWON could get HURT or DEAD.

INDEED. Cause he's been abused by
an abuser who'd let the kat and dog sort
HOWET their differences and let them
fight like kats and dogs.


Here's HOWE to teach your kat to
provoke the dog and train your dog
to kill your kat or make IT attack you,
like HOWE janet boss's mutilated kat
does to her when she goes MENTAL
on her dogs:

Here's research professor of ****-ytic behaviorISM
at UofWI marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
"NO!" into ITS face for five seconds and lock IT in a
box for ten minutes contemplation" dermer:

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," dermer.

the puppy wizard

rec.pets.dogs.behavior,alt.animals.dog,alt.pets.do gs.pitbull,alt.p
ets.dogs.labrador,rec.pets.dogs.rescue,rec.pets.do gs.health,rec.pe
ts.dogs.misc,alt.med.veterinary,rec.pets.dogs.bree ds,alt.support.g
rief.pet-loss
HOWEDY alison,


You mean dependin on HOWE your
LUCK is runnin, alison?


Dog and kat. That's all the INFORMATION
you gotta know, alison. Do you know HOWE
to train a dog and kat to be pals alison?


A dog is a dog alison.


Standard answer for cchildren under four
and simpletons is the CABBAGE PATCH.

Past history got NUTHIN to do with trainin.


Perhaps they're just being mishandled.

You mean when the kat is ready to knock
his eyes out for him or the dog moves in
for the kill, alison?

You mean cause you don't know HOWE
to introduce a dog to a kat alison.

Yeah. That's HOWE COME dogs get aggressive
to kats HOWET of the HOWES.


Right. Most of HOWER dog lovers allHOWE
their kats to train their dogs.


You'll need to learn HOWE to make
them friends. You'll need a crate and
a variety of trainin tools:

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.

Lynn K.

"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosmakos@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20 ginger57@my-deja.com wrote:


Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think
a prong works better than a choke with less chance
of injury to the dog in this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion
to cats, but should be used under the direction
of a trainer who knows how to instruct the owner
in their proper use.

Electronics can take the form of shock, sonic or
citronella collars. At that time the owner will train
with electronics instead of food or whatever other
reward system was being used."

8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the
dog. Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog.
I think a prong works better than a choke with less
chance of injury to the dog in this situation.

Have the dog in a sit-stay next to you with most
of the slack out of the leash and let the cat walk
through the room and up to the dog if it wishes
(this is why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."

BWWWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Lynn K. wrote:

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer."

Lynn K.

---------------------------------

And then DENIES it:
Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob> wrote in message
news:<04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@TeraNews>.. .

And then DENIES GETTIN BAGGED FOR LYING!

THAT'S HOWE COME we KNOW she's
a MENTAL CASE.

And HERE'S HOWE COME we PROVE IT:

WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day
For Twenty Years

I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM

"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-
depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and
50 mg of Zoloft every day.

I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to
learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
information I have learned.

But if I were ever to post such sh*t, I would hope that
every other reader of this group would be rightfully
outraged."

"Community is an evolutionary thing that we earn
the right to participate in by observing the easily
understood rules and contributing to in constructive
ways."

Lynn K.

-----------------------------------------

LYNN K. and LOIS E, and a BiLateral, BiPolar
conversation on Mental problems. LYNN AND
LOIS Almost 50 years on mental illness medications combined -----------------------------------------


"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her - she wouldn't
take them. I particularly remember a comment she
made about scarey side effects of Lithium.

Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think I'm qualified to
say that the very low risk of any side effect is far less
frightening than the very real dangers of life without it."

Lynn K.
-----------------------------------------

LYNN K. and the UNQUIET MIND

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosmakos@home.com) Subject: Re: Where is
Darlene? Date: 1999/09/03 BoxHill wrote:

Yeah. It's interesting, but kind of watered down for the
mass market, if you know what I mean. There's really
quite a lot of good work out there and decent research.

Thank God.

Lynn K.
---------------------------------------

MOTHER AND CHILD REUNION "KUCKOO!!
CUCKOO!!!" MOTHER (LOIS E.) 22 YEARS on
TRICYCLICS, DAUGHTER BIPOLAR...

YOU DO THE MATH

"What's really terrific, is now days you can
say proudly, 'I take anti-depressives'"

-------------------------------------

From: Gary & lois Edwards (garyl@bmi.net)
Subject: Re: Whereis Darlene? Date: 1999/09/02

BEEN ON TRICYCLICS FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS

"I don't take lithium, but I've been on trycyclics for
about 22 years. Been there, done that, have the t-
shirt to prove it. What's really terrific, is now days
you can say proudly, "I take anti-depressives".

Back when I started taking them it was seen as
something shameful. If you cut your leg off, and
were lying there with a bleeding stump, you'd
never let the word depressed, pass your lips, or
the doc's would say, "You're depressed, on
medication? Well, can't have any pain meds.....
you could become addicted."

The good old days. I actually had a Great Aunt
who's father locked her in her room back in the
twenties because she was simple. A shame that
medication probably would have helped
her live a normal life.

No Denna, I was just saying with Darlene's
personality, she has a way of making grandiose
plans when at the top of her manic cycle....as
does my daughter. I wasn't saying that anyone
with problems could be counted on to be
irresponsible."

Lois E.

-------------------------------------


From: metta (kelly_marsops_NoSpam@msn.com)
Subject: choices.
Newsgroups: alt.support.dissociation
Date: 2004-05-12 15:26:35 PST

something new happened this week. or maybe
not new, but newly noticed. had a f*ght with SO.

and felt bad, at fault, responsible for causing him
to be mad with me. the usually negative stuff. and
i thought, i should let this go. it's not my fault, i'm
not bad, it's just a little thing, not important (this is
the "new" me, things i learned from it, from meditation,
from growing up...).

and then i decided that no, i wanted to slip. i wanted
to screw up and be bad. i wanted, no, needed to be
bad. to be responsible. to be at fault for everything.
i needed to feel helpless, hopeless, pointless.

i ached to feel that black ball of pain taking over my
heart again. it's been so long. i wanted to be
destructive, to me and everything around me.

i took lots of klonopin, lots of soma, drank much
wine. slept on the couch, couldn't be near SO,
couldn't think of the good things in my life.

needed to keep this badness around me.

woke up, had a test to take, so took test and passed,
but still felt icky, wanted to go home and take more
klonopin. but decided instead to have lunch with a
friend. because i didn't want to feel bad anymore.
didn't want to e responsible for bad feelings. didn't
want to make myself hurt more.

so went to lunch and did some breathing and felt
better. and now feel back to normal, everything is
fine, life is happy and good and my mood is wonderful.

but i keep thinking about that moment of choice.
i *knew* i was choosing to feel bad. i could have
stopped it. i could have been smart and banish the
negative thoughts. but i didn't want to.

this is new for me, being healthy, happy, not blaming
me for everything that goes bad. and sometimes i feel like i
don't know how to be healthy. i don't know how to
be "sane". and it would be so much easier to just slip
back into destructive habits. to be bad me again.

i'm scared that i'll make that choice again. but not
choose to come back to my "good" life. i'm scared
i'll stay bad me. why did i need to be bad so much?

i think this has to do with m*thr's day. stupid stupid day.

*sigh*

-kelly

--
did we expect that life was ever fair, my god...
i sowed a field of rose and reaped a whipping rod =====================


THAT'S PART OF YOUR INSANITY.


No. He'll FIGHT, like your dogs do.

From: culprit (culprit@flashmail.com)
Subject: Re: dominance
Date: 2004-03-09 10:41:22 PST
"Tricia9999" <tricia9999@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040309115155.29635.00001093@mb-m21.aol.com...


and i don't think you've seen my dogs interact.
just because they're pits doesn't mean that every
little snark is automatically hardwired fighting instinct.

it just means that i have to be more careful to
prevent such snarks. and since i've removed
the resources they're being possessive of, the
snarky behavior has decreased dramatically
(well ok, completely).

if they were just fighting to fight, as you suggest,
they certainly wouldn't need a toy as an excuse,
would they?

and if they were actually fighting, as opposed
to just snarking over toys, i'd have had a much
more serious situation on hand, and wouldn't
have been able to separate them so easily, and
with so few injuries to the dogs.

don't worry, of course i'll manage the household
carefully, there's a reason they're never alone
together, and now they don't even play outside
together unless there are two adults present in
the yard with them. i don't deny their heritage,
but i hardly think it precludes normal adolescent
power shifts in the pack structure.

-kelly

================

And THAT'S HOWE COME it's important
to KNOW you're a MENTAL CASE.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >