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1 18th June 20:10
the puppy wizard
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HOWEDY maxixe,


That so? Your posting history shows you've
posted here as recently as last year.


You mean you learned HOWE to abuse
and mishandle your dog and lie abHOWET it.

You mean, a dog lover who identified
you as a lying dog abusing punk thug
coward and active incurable long term MENTAL CASE?

And you got your just desserts:

BWEEEEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!
May 13, 2004 by Maxixe
"Maxixe" <maxixe@volcanomail.com> wrote in message news:f5fd69ae.0405131319.49a122ff@posting.google.c om...

DISMAL FAILURE is HOWE The Puppy Wizard calls it.

"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (destructive separation anxiety).

I've Suggested It To Quite A Few Clients Now
And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME The Very First
Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33 Years Experience.

=====================

From: Chris Williams (k9apple@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST

Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel
and your family.

A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.

She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.

============================

Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what I've
always done without thinking of it as "training".

New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"

====================

Mrs. Altman is the wife of a practicing psychiatrist who's
spent a while discussing BEHAVIORISM with The Puppy
Wizard and has learned he had a lot to learn:

Subj: Fear of Thunder
Date: 6/29/02 6:07:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Jraltman
To: Witsenddog

Dear Jerry,

I hope you'll be able to post this message so
more people who are at their wit's end will be
able to help their dogs.

To review:

Our puppy was uncomfortable during thunder storms.
At the beginning of the problem, she paced restlessly
from room to room. She couldn't settle and sleep.


!st attempt to help her:

I'd pick her up, brush and massage her (call me
a nut - I've sung to her when I've done her daily
brushing since she was tiny so of course I sang
too) and when she relaxed, I'd put her in her crate.

She then slept and I thought the problem was
solved.

Traumatic event:

We were out in the park playing with one of her
doggy friends when it began to rain. On the way
home, there was the loudest, longest, thunder
clap I've ever heard. From that day on, the
problem got worse and worse. I couldn't calm
her with singing and massage.

The fear spread. She wouldn't go out if it was raining.
No thunder, just gently summer rain, and she wouldn't
go out.

The solution:

I surfed the net and came across a free manual
Wit's End Dog Training Method and a product
called Doggy Do Right that seemed better than
anything else I came across.

A phone call to Jerry Howe, author of the manual
and Director of Research, Biosound Scientific,
convince me to try both the manual and the product.

Problem solved:

I followed Jerry's suggestions (more phone calls -
he is most generous with his time and advice).

The first two thunder storms my puppy was restless
but not running around in a blind panic.

The third storm, she barked her deep,
stranger danger bark after each clap of thunder.

The fourth storm, she seemed uneasy at first.

Soon she was asleep at my feet and she napped
through the rest of the storm.

A miracle.

I am endlessly grateful to Jerry
for his manual and his machine.

A word about Doggy Do Right. It is odd to buy
a machine that emits a sound I cannot hear.

I took the chance because Jerry offered a full refund
including shipping.

Though I heard nothing, my puppy clearly did.

When I first turned on the machine, she got the cutest,
most quizzical look on her face. She looked at me as if
to say: "What's that? I never heard that before."

She looks at the machine when it is on.

She rests on the floor beneath it.

It is obvious from her behavior that she is
aware of its cycles.

Amazing.

Thank you Jerry. =============
"Anthony Testa" <testa52601@aol.com> wrote in message news:c603fe9c.0203260607.77c283ce@posting.google.c om...


news:<lmWo8AeR1HVP092yn@panix.com>...

=====================

My student Anthony summed it all up:
"Alpha" <sweeney1@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:bsf69.5447$g9.19553@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...

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BWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
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2 18th June 20:11
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HOWEDY maxixe,


You've been postin here abHOWETS as recently
as last year, till it got TOO PERSONAL to bear.

That so? You learned HOWE to be an abuser
and a coward and a liar.

Is an abuser... like this:

From: Maxixe (maxixe@volcanomail.com)
Subject: Re: Preschooler Mood Swings
Newsgroups: misc.kids.moderated
Date: 2003-02-10 07:42:36 PST

Time outs don't work well for us when DD is out
of control. She refuses to go to another room, sit
still or comply.

It is just a struggle to get her to go along with a
time out. I walk away until she calms down.

It seems like ignoring her, but it seems to make
the conflict shorter. At that point, I don't want to
"lose it" because she is kicking or hitting me if I
stay close anyway.

If my husband is home, he weathers the storm
and holds her until she calms down, even if it
means he risks having his eye put out or gets
scratched on the face.

Everyone's comments were interesting.

For some reason things have calmed down
to a more "normal" level. I hope it remains
this way. My lower energy level is part of the
problem too.

I keep her busy if I can manage to organize
and prepare activities. When I have things to
do with her, we are fine. With a baby 4 weeks
away. I just don't have the energy sometimes
for as much activity as she seems to need so
my husband and I decided to arrange an
additional day at her babysitter with the other
kids for as long as we think we need it.

It's a bit of a splurge, but maybe justified if it
keeps us all saner. ========================

So you've come back to MINGLE?

Or are you lookin for permission to
MURDER your dog like your pal
deirdre edwards done to her dog
with the same same problems your own dog has?


From: Maxixe (maxixe@volcanomail.com)
Subject: Re: Tips for Running Dogs
Newsgroups: rec.running
Date: 2001-07-19 20:32:44 PST

Cool! What a nice artical. I used to run with
my Boxer-x? dog Socca when I was running
a lot. She loved it but my vet told me that I
should only run her about 2 miles at time so
I had to drop her off at home after running two
miles to finish the rest of my run.

It is good you mentioned having the vet tell
each owner what the limitations are.

I know this guy who had an older great dane
and I freaked when he told me he ran it 10
miles (about 2 weeks before it died!).

Poor dog!

================

Well maxixe, would that we all have the
strength to run ten miles two weeks pryor
to buyin the farm.

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS,
FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME SAME
SAME For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

A Dog Is A Dog As A Child Is A Child. They Respond
In Predictable, Innate, Normal, Natural, Instinctive,
Reflexive, Ways, To Cir***stances And Situations
Of Their Environments Which We Create For Them.

ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING. Damn The Descartean War:
"Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words
And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change, Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would
Not Obtain Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Dogs, As Taught In Your FREE
Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual." The Puppy Wizard.
<} ; ~ ) >

"He that will not apply new remedies, must expect
new evils." Francis Bacon (1561-1626); English
philosopher, essayist, statesman.

The dog trainin industry is abHOWET to take a badly
deserved and well earned HIT. It's gonna be ALOT
MOORE than a CHIN CHUCK and it's gonna HURT
A LOT MOORE than a static like stimulation from their
MEDICAL GRADE SHOCK COLLARS.

And then The Puppy Wizard is gonna bring the SAME
SAME SAME SAME INFORMATION to the parenting
and child psychology world... CAUSE IN SOME CIRCLES, behaviorIST
STILL model dog studies to
formulate human behavioral theories and methods.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
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3 20th June 11:01
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Self proclaimed Puppy Wizard:

Dude, you're a socio-path. You have WAY too much time on your hands.
God, I wish people would stop patronizing you. No matter how good your
manual is you will not get people to read it by attacking everyone
with your ridiculous accusations. You'll single handedly run the dog
newsgroups into the ground because you're spamming the whole newslist
with garbage.
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4 20th June 11:01
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Why don't you killfile him if he bothers you? I'm surprised anyone who
reads this group regularly hasn't already done so.


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5 20th June 11:01
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<snip>

Hi. I know I haven't been on this newsgroup long, but I have been
on newsgroups in general for a long time.

Puppy wizard sounds like a bot, and even if it's not automated,
it's definitely a troll. (If you're not really into usenet and
don't know what bots or trolls are, look at http://www.wikipedia.org
or on Google and look those terms up! In short a bot is a robot
which tries to give "intelligent" responses and a troll is someone
who delights in adding fuel to the fire and causing upset.)

I would killfile him, in fact puppy wizard is the first person
I have ever killfiled. To "killfile" means to dump all his posts
in your trash can without ever seeing them. In this case it gets
rid of all his inflamatory postings without having to bother you!

http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/killfilefaqhtm.htm
is a great guide on how to killfile a particular email address
on all kinds of different news reader software. I hope it will
help you to do the same thing, if you wish.

Best wishes,
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Flashy => Rot 13 => Synful ;-)
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6 20th June 11:01
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HOWEDY maxixe,


You mean The Amazing Puppy Wizard.


You mean The Amazing Puppy Wizard.

Disciple Paulie Writes:

I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once
I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from
me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and
they always are, always.

Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and
say "good dog" sincerely at the end of the
request and I bet you'll find your dog thinking
then responding everytime.

A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule
applies to every aspect of the relationship with
your dog.

Obedience and affection are not related, if they
were everyone would have obedient dogs.
Paul. ========================


The Amazing Puppy Wizard came here
to IDENTIFY E***POSE EMBARRASS
and DISCREDIT HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And
ACTIVE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL
CASES who HURT and INTIMIDATE BRIBE
and MURDER HOWER BEST DOGS.


Au CONtraire. There's not enough HOWERS
in the day for The Amazing Puppy Wizard to
address every WON of HOWER MENTALLY
ILL LYING DOG ABUSING PUNK THUG COWARDS.

Shame on you!


You're a dog abuser and a liar and a mental case.
You came here to learn HOWE to HURT your dog.


You'll NEVER KNOW cause you'll NEVER
STOP HURTIN and INTIMIDATING your dog.


The Amazing Puppy Wizard ain't writing
to HOWER MENTALLY ILL LYING DOG
ABUSING PUNK THUG COWARDS, like
yourself, maxixe.

DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS.


The Amazing Puppy Wizard NEVER launches
ad hominum attacks on noWON till AFTER HE'S
THOWErHOWELY DISCREDITED their WORK
by QUOTING THEIR LIES and ABUSES, as HE
done with your very own posts, maxixe.

You're a dog abuser and a coward. To DENY
that makes you a LIAR and MENTAL CASE. GOT IT???

INDEED. As no other trainer or behaviorist
in the history of behaviorISM could ever do
cause The Amazing Puppy Wizard doesn't
study descarte and doesn't CITE other's work
UNLESS it's to DISCREDIT them.

YOU MEAN, BY QUOTING YOUR
OWN WRITTEN WORDS.

Disciple Paul Sez:

"No One Understands How Wits End Training
Really Works, They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey
And don't Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method
That Deals With Any Situation And The Foundation
Is Built On Trust And Understanding."

HOWEDY Disciple Paulie,

Might seem like that, but it's really MAGICK.
VooDoo, actually. <{} ; ~ ) >

==================

--- Original Message -----
From: Paul Bousie
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Geday.

Hey J,

I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same
old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the
only advice worth reading.

The problem with your method J is that I can't
answer the questions on the NG no more, people
are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand
that dog training requires a disciplined method, I'm
now really understanding that they are all result
orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to
stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they
want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not
realising they create a new one as they deal with
the last.

I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they
don't even realise the errors of thier ways and
they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority,
after all if everyone says thats the way then it
must be. I've finally realised people don't want
to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog,
they want a little puppet that sits and stays and
downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so
they think, then when the dog acts like a dog
they come squealing to the NG asking how to
stop the dog being a dog.

I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind
that I think demonstrates the way we approach
dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a
cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or
behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents
something about the dog, all of them create what
a dog is.

The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out
the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you
can, problem is each one you stamp out another
takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed
they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise,
but thats the traditional way.

Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds
all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog,
that's what we get hold of with all the little circles
inside, we don't see the little circles we see the BIG
circle the macro as you put it and use that to train.

I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they
are critising something they don't even understand
or even have the capacity to understand.

See ya,

Paul

=====================

----- Original Message -----
From: Eric
To: jhowe2@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in..

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about
a year ago regarding submissive peeing.
Just wanted to let you know he's doing great-
he was "cured" in about 2 days using your techniques!

He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"!

Once I stopped thinking like a human and got
inside his head, I can teach him ANYTHING,
usually in a matter of minutes.

Makes me look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up,
wormed 'em, and am getting them their shots.
Time to get inside their heads and teach them to
teach themselves how to be good dogs!

Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look
forward to working with these guys a couple times
a day...

Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T", I
learned from you to "think like a dog" and
stimulate their brain rather than beating ass or
pinching, or any of that nonsense.

I know damn well I would NOT be loyal to
someone who beat MY ass lol!

Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the
bushes out there and teaching folks the RIGHT
way to "train" dogs.

A horseman friend of mine uses very similar
techniques in training his horses- he calls it
"natural horsemanship".

He is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet
somehow he repeatedly wins at every show he
attends. He rarely shows any more, but goes now
and then to rub their noses in it (pun intended)...

Too cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the
good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard

==========================

Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h67d@corp.supernews.com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using
Jerry's methods with our dog. We had the same
problem as the original poster has with Buzz.

One day working with the family pack exercise
and practicing the recall command with the family
and she'll now go out with hubby and daughter
instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative things
you might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to
try the method and *judge the results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in...
always comes when called, not chewing stuff even
if we leave it laying around, "re"housebroken after
long shelter stay, walks perfectly on leash, doesn't
try to steal food from our plates or beg... probably
a few more things I'm forgetting to mention. *
(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi and don't wander.
jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we
brought her home she was very untrusting and
ultra-submissive (except with her area/toys where
she was possessive and nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous
owners, then she was in a shelter for months.

They (most of them) wanted to give up and kill
her Now she's gained confidence and trust with
us.

Last night was another big breakthrough (in my
eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just
once when she heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about
Jerry or that the Wits' End manual is culled from
other sources. In my opinion, even if it is, it takes
only the good stuff and leaves out the bad.

Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry
personally. I've emailed him and instant
messaged him. I have not bought a "Doggy Do
Right". He's offered help for free.)

Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: mick@crneckiy.com
AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227

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7 20th June 11:01
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HOWEDY maxixe,


You mean The Puppy Wizard, maxixe.

You're supposed to snip Xposts and trim
text and put NINNYBOY in the subject
header to avoid EMBARRASSMENT. HOWEDY Steve,
"Steve Kane" <pieradoslobos@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message news:53a93675.0402050548.1f67186e@posting.google.c om...

This is a FAMILY newsgroup, Steve.


You mean The Puppy Wizard, don't you, Steve.
A little RESPECTgiven earns a lot of respect in
return, Steve. That's the fundamental message
in The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual.

Set dHOWEN. Take off your shoes, turn your
face, lest you get JERRYIZED.


The Puppy Wizard ain't here for ENTERTRAINMENT.


HARMLESS, Steve?

The Puppy Wizard hasn't DIAGNOSED you as
MENTALLY ILL YET, despite your claims of being so.


You mean LIARS DOG ABUSERS COWARDS
PUNKS THUGS and ACTIVE INCURABLE MENTAL PATIENTS.

Look at this video submitted b y a poster this
week of a LIFE THREATENING OCD behavior
problem:
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV


The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual WILL CURE this
pathetic dog NEARLY INSTANTLY, FOR FREE.

The Puppy Wizard's Doggy Do Right (And Kitty
Will And A Rooster Did And A ****atoo Or Two
Did Too) Machine will likeWIZE CURE this PATHETIC
dog's LIFE THREATENING Obsessive Compulsive
Behavior problem CAUSED BY MISHANDLING,
AUTOMAGICKALLY. GUARANTEED. Or The Puppy
Wizard will get the heel HOWETA this business.

What you need is to LOOK at that video
sent in this week by a new poster lookin for
HEELP to SAVE HIS DOG'S LIFE. The ONLY
HEELP he can get is from The Puppy Wizard.

HOWER DOG LOVERS WOULD DENY HIM
OF THAT and will allHOWE his PATHETIC
DOG to GET MURDERED by his owner, who
NO DHOWET, is a DOG ABUSER, cause he
didn't WANT to follow The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
cause IT WILL PROVE the CAUSE of that OCD
behavior is HIS OWNER'S MISHANDLING PUNISHMENT and ABUSE.

The Puppy Wizard is settin right here, stark ravin
nekkid... take your best shot. You think beatin The
Puppy Wizard to a pulp will HEELP that PATHETIC
ABUSED DOG?

You think BEATING The Puppy Wizard for TEACHING
EFFECTIVE NON VIOLENT training methods will
HEELP CURE any DISTRESSED ABUSED CRITTER?


Perhaps that's cause you're a natural born coward?
Or just a plain run of the mill MENTAL CASE?


The heel you won't.


You read The Puppy Wizard's posts FIRST.

My, you ARE a pathetic case, aren't you, Steve.
HOWEver, The Puppy Wizard has YET to determine
if you areINDEED, MENTALLY ILL. Just cause "it walks
like a duck" and you're violent, doesn't provide a DIAGNOSIS.


The Puppy Wizard came here to IDENTIFY
E***POSE and DISCREDIT HOWER Gang
Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards
and MENTAL CASES who HURT and KILL
dogs and LIE abHOWET it.


Thanks to Al Gore the Whole Wild World
is NHOWE, The Puppy Wizard's oyster.

Here's a SAMPLE of what we're up against, Steve: HOWEDY sinofabitch,
"Sionnach" <rhyfelwr@msn.com> wrote in message news:bvtf67$106jeh$1@ID-45033.news.uni-berlin.de...


No, that's a flat HOWET lie, sinofabich. It's a
direct quote from YOU, with exception of TWO
WORDS, "smartly" and "neatly."

ONLY if you're SCHIZOPHRENIC, sinofabitch.


YOU'RE A LIAR.

We got your original post in The Puppy
Wizard's Archives.

You'll see your own words E***ACTLY as
QUOTED. And we'll likeWIZE see you DENYING
your own words in three different ways!!!


NO. YOU'RE A LIAR.

The ONLY "extra words" SMARTLY and NEATLY,
were INDEEDY, added by The Puppy Wizard, HOWEver
they were NOT SIGNIFICANT, except for poetic license:

You're a liar and a dog abuser and a MENTAL CASE:

"When it was obvious that she had NO intention
of paying any attention to anything but the other
dogs (and that I was in danger of having my arm
dislocated <G>), I didn't even think about it; I
dropped the leash, threw my right arm over the
Lab's shoulder, grabbed her opposite foot with
my left hand, rolled her on her side, leaned on
her, said "GRRRR!" and nipped her ear (not
particularly hard- I wasn't trying to *hurt* her, just
get her attention!)."

From: Sionnach (rhyfelwr@msn.com)
Subject: Re: I dropped the leash!
Date: 2003-12-15 07:55:16 PST

<yawn> That's not a quote written by me, kiddo.
That's an amalgam of two different people's posts,
with extra words added by Jerry.

From: Sionnach (rhyfelwr@msn.com)
Subject: Re: another question from me and joy?

Date: 2002-04-10 19:40:33 PST "BethF" wrote:


He's repeating one of Jerry's confabulations... I did,
once, lightly nip a seriously out-of-control, temper-tantruming
Labrador on the ear to get her attention.
It had ****-all to do with leash training though, and
everything to do with getting through to an incredibly
hard-headed, tough-minded, and spoiled-rotten dog
that A. she was NOT going to physically control me
the way she had every other female human she'd
dealt with and B. that I was worth paying attention to.

It came up in a discussion where someone else
mentioned having nipped a terrier puppy who
wouldn't stop play-biting. In both cases, it was a
one-time instinctive response to an unusual situation.

-------------------- sinofabitch writes:

"Neatly," and "Smartly."


"sinofabitch" instead of sionnach.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!


You HURT dogs and LIE abHOWET it in the
artistic musical ballet like style of lying "I LOVE
KOEHLER" lynn.

The Puppy Wizard sez you can't post here abHOWETS
nogoddamnedMOORE cause you're a liar and a dog
abuser like your pals... who likeWIZE, can't post here
abHOWETS nogoddamnedMOORE cause they hurt
and murder dogs when they get too SCARED to HURT
them someMOORE.
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Oh, that explains your presence at least...
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You got it!
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