the puppy wizard

HOWEDY People,

Before you get too CONfHOWENDED, try this:

From: The Puppy Wizard (ThePuppyWizard@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: Motivation Vs Reward
Date: 2004-03-18 07:02:48 PST

HOWEDY Disciple Paulie,

It's almost like BEGGIN, ain't it.

INDEEDY! That's HOWE COME you'll NEVER
see The Amazing Puppy Wizard recommend
using bribes EVEN IF HE KNOWS the dog
WILL respond FASTER to a bribe, cause the
MICRO i.e., gettin the dog to "DO IT," ain't the
ultimate OBJECTIVE, gettin the dog to ALWAYS
WANT to "DO IT," is.


Right. AnyWON can BRIBE a dog, so long
as the BRIBE is MOORE REWARDING or
distracting than the dog's ultimate objective.


Right. Offering a bribe lowers the dog's regard
for the trainer's authority and reduces his esteem
for us and his removes his desire to WORK for
us withHOWET a physical reward.

Anytime we suc***b to a "shake dHOWEN"
or pay a BRIBE the ante will likely go UP the
next time arHOWEND.

Certainly catchin a bunny or a kat or rummagin
through a garbage can is gonna be MOORE
REWARDING than any weenie or toy we could offer.

INDEED it WORKS, but it don't ALWAYS WORK
and it doesn't have that SPECIAL "SUMPTHIN"
your dog can ONLY get from relating to YOU, just bein HOWER partner.


Right. AnyWON including the neighbor's
garbage bucket or kitty kat can offer a better
tidbit and MOORE stimulation than HOWER weenies.


The ONLY reward noWON else can offer
is HOWER "GOOD BOY! NICE DOG!"

Correct! The treat or reward immediately USURPS
HOWER authority and distracts the dog's thoughts
from the lesson at hand.


WithHIOWET a thought abHOWET YOU.


Only so long as he desires the treat MOORE
than another behavior and there's NUTHIN
BETTER available anywhere else.

Right. "RESPECT" is a two way street. Offering
and withholding treats / rewards INCREASES
anxiHOWESNESS to a dangerHOWES level
where OCD'S and SEIZURES live.

Instead of HOWETA pain fear force and greed.


Or cause we'll SHUN or HURT him if he don't.

Like when we do sumpthin we'd rather not, just for the Mrs.

INDEEDY. "Be HAPPY in your work." Like takin the
Mrs. to the opera. SHORE it ****s, but the REWARD
is GREAT for sufferin a few HOWERS.

THEN THEY HURT and INTIMIDATE their dog
to GET THEIR OWN WAY. It's kinda like sayin
"F" the opera and just rapin the Mrs.
Think allelomimetic behavior...


Right. The ONLY thing NO WON ELSE in the
Whole Wild World got is HOWER "GOOD BOY!
NICE DOG!," even if he hasn't EARNED IT.

Kinda like when you tell the Mrs. her arse doesn't
look fat in them clothes. Who cares? You gotta see
her fat arse nekkid anyHOWE.


OtherWIZE, it'd be like the Mrs. sayin we gotta
take her to the opera or she'll HURT us. The
deed may get done, but SHE ain't gettin the
REWARD in the long run (i.e., we won't take
HOWET the trash!).

teaching fetch w/o food?
Date: 2001-12-19 05:51:24 PST
"Jerome Bigge" <jbigge@novagate.net> wrote in message news:33502u8q73asddm4adb9umlkoh747qduo8@4ax.com...


Thank you Jerome. Ain't that the manual most of the
experts on this forum tell folks to killfile because it
doesn't work and will cause temperament problems
in some dogs because the method is too lenient.
At least that's what those who know say...

Seems you're mistaken, Jerome. ed w of petloss
dot CON sez that Jerry's manual is a rip off and
a scam:

"ed w of PETLOSS dot CON" wrote in message news:...

Re: Beware of "bait & switch scam" Jerry Howe

"JR's Life And Home Was Saved Maybe We
Can Save Some More Lives And Homes.
Yes, I Am As Excited As You Are Especially
For Trying DDR On Aggressive Behavior And
On Other Behavior Problems," Elaine McClung.
Re: <<<<<<<<<< W A R N I N G ! ! !>>>>>>>>>>
BEWARE! Jerry Howe, do***ented LIAR, TROLL
and ninnyboy SPAMMER is going to try to put one
over on you with his lies, manipulation, and unethical
business practices!

Re: fencing question Beware of Jerry Howe. Jerry Howe
is only here to sell you his very dubious $100 electronic
training device. http://home.att.net/~petloss/ddreview.txt
(ninnyboy killfile key added to respect the majority who
wish to totally avoid Jerry

Re: Help with Belligerent Beagle Beware of Jerry Howe. Jerry
Howe is only here to sell you his very dubious $100 electronic
training device. http://home.att.net/~petloss/ddreview.txt
(ninnyboy killfile key added to respect the majority who wish
to totally

Re: Beware of Jerry Howe. Jerry Howe is only here
to sell you his very dubious $100 electronic training
device. http://home.att.net/~petloss/ddreview.txt
(ninnyboy killfile key added to respect the majority
who wish to totally avoid Jerry Howe related post

Re: NEW HERE? Beware of Jerry Howe.
Your help is now needed to support this website.
I must ask for financial support Petloss.com has
grown to become the most visited pet loss grief
support site on the web. For All I Know Koehler
May Be World's Best Trainer

Re: Beware of Jerry Howe. Jerry Howe is only here to
sell you his dubious $100 electronic training device.
(ninnyboy killfile key added to respect the majority who
wish to totally avoid Jerry Howe related posts)


Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben

===================

----- Original Message -----
From: "t" <t_>
To: <ThePuppyWizard@EarthLink.Net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: family pack leadership excercise

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY People,

Before you get too CONfHOWENDED, try this:

From: The Puppy Wizard (ThePuppyWizard@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: Motivation Vs Reward
Date: 2004-03-18 07:02:48 PST

HOWEDY Disciple Paulie,

It's almost like BEGGIN, ain't it.

INDEEDY! That's HOWE COME you'll NEVER
see The Amazing Puppy Wizard recommend
using bribes EVEN IF HE KNOWS the dog
WILL respond FASTER to a bribe, cause the
MICRO i.e., gettin the dog to "DO IT," ain't the
ultimate OBJECTIVE, gettin the dog to ALWAYS
WANT to "DO IT," is.


Right. AnyWON can BRIBE a dog, so long
as the BRIBE is MOORE REWARDING or
distracting than the dog's ultimate objective.


Right. Offering a bribe lowers the dog's regard
for the trainer's authority and reduces his esteem
for us and his removes his desire to WORK for
us withHOWET a physical reward.

Anytime we suc***b to a "shake dHOWEN"
or pay a BRIBE the ante will likely go UP the
next time arHOWEND.

Certainly catchin a bunny or a kat or rummagin
through a garbage can is gonna be MOORE
REWARDING than any weenie or toy we could offer.

INDEED it WORKS, but it don't ALWAYS WORK
and it doesn't have that SPECIAL "SUMPTHIN"
your dog can ONLY get from relating to YOU, just bein HOWER partner.


Right. AnyWON including the neighbor's
garbage bucket or kitty kat can offer a better
tidbit and MOORE stimulation than HOWER weenies.


The ONLY reward noWON else can offer
is HOWER "GOOD BOY! NICE DOG!"

Correct! The treat or reward immediately USURPS
HOWER authority and distracts the dog's thoughts
from the lesson at hand.


WithHIOWET a thought abHOWET YOU.


Only so long as he desires the treat MOORE
than another behavior and there's NUTHIN
BETTER available anywhere else.

Right. "RESPECT" is a two way street. Offering
and withholding treats / rewards INCREASES
anxiHOWESNESS to a dangerHOWES level
where OCD'S and SEIZURES live.

Instead of HOWETA pain fear force and greed.


Or cause we'll SHUN or HURT him if he don't.

Like when we do sumpthin we'd rather not, just for the Mrs.

INDEEDY. "Be HAPPY in your work." Like takin the
Mrs. to the opera. SHORE it ****s, but the REWARD
is GREAT for sufferin a few HOWERS.

THEN THEY HURT and INTIMIDATE their dog
to GET THEIR OWN WAY. It's kinda like sayin
"F" the opera and just rapin the Mrs.
Think allelomimetic behavior...


Right. The ONLY thing NO WON ELSE in the
Whole Wild World got is HOWER "GOOD BOY!
NICE DOG!," even if he hasn't EARNED IT.

Kinda like when you tell the Mrs. her arse doesn't
look fat in them clothes. Who cares? You gotta see
her fat arse nekkid anyHOWE.


OtherWIZE, it'd be like the Mrs. sayin we gotta
take her to the opera or she'll HURT us. The
deed may get done, but SHE ain't gettin the
REWARD in the long run (i.e., we won't take
HOWET the trash!).

teaching fetch w/o food?
Date: 2001-12-19 05:51:24 PST
"Jerome Bigge" <jbigge@novagate.net> wrote in message news:33502u8q73asddm4adb9umlkoh747qduo8@4ax.com...


Thank you Jerome. Ain't that the manual most of the
experts on this forum tell folks to killfile because it
doesn't work and will cause temperament problems
in some dogs because the method is too lenient.
At least that's what those who know say...

Seems you're mistaken, Jerome. ed w of petloss
dot CON sez that Jerry's manual is a rip off and
a scam:

"ed w of PETLOSS dot CON" wrote in message news:...

Re: Beware of "bait & switch scam" Jerry Howe

"JR's Life And Home Was Saved Maybe We
Can Save Some More Lives And Homes.
Yes, I Am As Excited As You Are Especially
For Trying DDR On Aggressive Behavior And
On Other Behavior Problems," Elaine McClung.
Re: <<<<<<<<<< W A R N I N G ! ! !>>>>>>>>>>
BEWARE! Jerry Howe, do***ented LIAR, TROLL
and ninnyboy SPAMMER is going to try to put one
over on you with his lies, manipulation, and unethical
business practices!

Re: fencing question Beware of Jerry Howe. Jerry Howe
is only here to sell you his very dubious $100 electronic
training device. http://home.att.net/~petloss/ddreview.txt
(ninnyboy killfile key added to respect the majority who
wish to totally avoid Jerry

Re: Help with Belligerent Beagle Beware of Jerry Howe. Jerry
Howe is only here to sell you his very dubious $100 electronic
training device. http://home.att.net/~petloss/ddreview.txt
(ninnyboy killfile key added to respect the majority who wish
to totally

Re: Beware of Jerry Howe. Jerry Howe is only here
to sell you his very dubious $100 electronic training
device. http://home.att.net/~petloss/ddreview.txt
(ninnyboy killfile key added to respect the majority
who wish to totally avoid Jerry Howe related post

Re: NEW HERE? Beware of Jerry Howe.
Your help is now needed to support this website.
I must ask for financial support Petloss.com has
grown to become the most visited pet loss grief
support site on the web. For All I Know Koehler
May Be World's Best Trainer

Re: Beware of Jerry Howe. Jerry Howe is only here to
sell you his dubious $100 electronic training device.
(ninnyboy killfile key added to respect the majority who
wish to totally avoid Jerry Howe related posts)


Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben

===================

----- Original Message -----
From: "t" <t_>
To: <ThePuppyWizard@EarthLink.Net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: family pack leadership excercise