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1 24th March 07:32
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2 24th March 07:32
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3 25th March 04:09
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RIGHT! It's better to be raised in your HOWES and
abused from day WON and then MURDERED by
the person you TRUST to do what's BEST for you
like HOWE you done to your DEAD DOG Summer.
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4 25th March 23:24
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You're a liar and a dog abuser and a MENTAL CASE, matty.

Oh hey? LOOKEY HERE! Here's you matty,
hurting dogs and lying abHOWET it:


And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:


lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
Lynn K.


That's INSANE. Ain't it. So's this, here's YOU,
professor SCRUFF SHAKE:

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works."

That's HOWE COME your dog has OCD behaviors
and is deathly ill from The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME
The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33
Years Experience.

You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for
her coment above regarding her success with
The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy Separation
Anxiety / Bed Time Calming / Submissive
Urination Technique (STSA/BTC/SUT)?

Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z,
who commented that his bed time calming technique was quite similar?

"His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.


lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
Lynn K.


That's INSANE. Ain't it.

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???

"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.

You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."

You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
is COURTEOUS?

"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
as possible. What does this mean?"

Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.

"When you bring home the Bitter Apple for
the first time, spray one squirt directly into
the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog
won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore
him and continue your normal behavior."

You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?

--Mike Dufort
author of the zero selling book
"Courteous Canines"

You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?

Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?

Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?

"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm
Over The Lab's Shoulder, Grabbed Her Opposite
Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat
And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her Ear,"
sionnach.

Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...

And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."

"Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
you to progress to striking them more
sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
expert trainer, discoverer of cannibalism
in Labradors.

You think a E***PERT trainer got to BEAT
a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?

"Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.

Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies
HURT all their lives like HOWE HOWER dog
lovers PREFER to HURT THEIR DOGS?

"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."

The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.

We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...

terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."

Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should
knee the dog in the chest, step on its toes, throw
him down by his ears and climb all over it like
a ****d ape growling into his throat and bite IT
on his ears, or leash pop it on a pronged spiked
pinch choke collar or pop him in the snout with
the heel of your palm.
"BethF" <dawg@alaska.com> wrote in message news:ugc7us32ki5fb9@corp.supernews.com...


news:<20020610173326.01953.00000597@mb-fx.aol.com>...


"Rocky" <2dogs@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message news:Xns92FEEC097E4AAaustralianshepherdca@130.133. 1.4...


You think matty's playin with a full
goddamned deck?

matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.
He's a MENTAL CASE.

Isn't that true, Marilyn?

Of course not, but THIS IS:

"Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap," professora gingold.
"Marshall Dermer" <dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message news:a3h5qn$mra$1@uwm.edu...


You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF
SHAKE:"

"I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
Cir***stance Ever, Where Slapping A
Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"

LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.

"I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
a good working dog by making them unhapper,
fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?


Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
professor SCRUFF SHAKE?

amy lying frosty dahl continues:

"On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
we have trained require much more
frequent and heavy application of pressure
(PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,

This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome

Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
less tractable dogs may require you to
progress to striking them more sharply"

BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...

"Try pinching the ear between the metal
casing and the collar, even the buckle on
the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"

OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.

"You can press the dog's ear with a
shotshell instead of your thumb even
get a studded collar and pinch the ear
against that Make the dog's need to stop
the pinching so urgent that resisting your
will fades in importance.

CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
using the stick and no ear pinch.

When the dog is digging out to beat the
stick and seems totally reliable without
any ear pinch, you are finished

This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome"

If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
under the chin, say "No! Hold!"

(stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
because the ear is getting tender, or the
dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
frosty dahl.

"Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
professora gingold.
From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
In article <38CC0C43.94E2DDD1@earthlink.net> rhurwitz@earthlink.net writes:

Please try Powell's Books in Portland
Oregon. Their URL is:

http://www.powells.com/

Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
new and used books on its shelves. You
can order books via e-email.

Koehler Method Of Dog
Training
by Koehler, W R
Published by HOWELL BOOK
HOUSE (0876056575,

================================================== ======

Here's some quotes and some methods right
outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream "NO!"
into its
face for 5
seconds:"

"The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."

Hanging

"First, the trainer makes certain that the collar
and leash are more than adequate for any jerk
or strain that the dog's most frantic actions could cause. Then
he starts
to work the dog deliberately and fairly to the point where the dog
makes his
grab.

Before the teeth have reached their target,
the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
the ground.

As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems the dog is
suspended
in mid-air.

However, to let the biting dog recover
his footing while he still had the strength
to renew the attack would be cruelty.

The only justifiable course is to hold him
suspended until he has neither the strength
nor inclination to renew the fight.

When finally it is obvious that he is
physically incapable of expressing his
resentment and is lowered to the ground,
he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
over on his side.

The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
let it alarm you

THE REAL "HOOD"

"If your dog is a real "hood" who would
regard the foregoing types of protest as
"kid stuff" and would express his
resentment of your efforts by biting,
your problem is difficult -- and pressing.

"Professional trainers often get these
extreme problems. Nearly always the
"protest biter" is the handiwork of a
person who, by avoiding situations that
the dog might resent, has nurtured the
seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
the resultant growth with under correction.

When these people reap their inevitable
and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
trainer" whose advice they may have
once rejected because it was incompatible
with the sugary droolings of mealy-
mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
and dog psychologists who, by the
broken skins and broken hearts their
misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
since the dawn of time.

"With more genuine compassion for the
biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
by those who are "too kind" to make a
correction and certainly with more disregard
for his safety, the professional trainer
morally feels obligated to perform a "major
operation."

"Since we are presently concerned with
the dog that bites in resentment of the
demands of training, we will set our
example in that situation. (In a later
chapter we will deal with the with the
much easier problem of the dog that
bites someone other than his master."

Are we havin FUN yet?

Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
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5 26th March 19:04
the puppy wizard
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Posts: 1
Default OT - possibly - dumb question - likely!


Oh hey? LOOKEY HERE! Here's you matty,
hurting dogs and lying abHOWET it:


And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:


lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
Lynn K.


That's INSANE. Ain't it. So's this, here's YOU,
professor SCRUFF SHAKE:

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works."

That's HOWE COME your dog has OCD behaviors
and is deathly ill from The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME
The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33
Years Experience.

You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for
her coment above regarding her success with
The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy Separation
Anxiety / Bed Time Calming / Submissive
Urination Technique (STSA/BTC/SUT)?

Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z,
who commented that his bed time calming technique was quite similar?

"His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.


lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
Lynn K.


That's INSANE. Ain't it.

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???

"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.

You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."

You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
is COURTEOUS?

"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
as possible. What does this mean?"

Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.

"When you bring home the Bitter Apple for
the first time, spray one squirt directly into
the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog
won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore
him and continue your normal behavior."

You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?

--Mike Dufort
author of the zero selling book
"Courteous Canines"

You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?

Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?

Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?

"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm
Over The Lab's Shoulder, Grabbed Her Opposite
Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat
And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her Ear,"
sionnach.

Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...

And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."

"Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
you to progress to striking them more
sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
expert trainer, discoverer of cannibalism
in Labradors.

You think a E***PERT trainer got to BEAT
a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?

"Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.

Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies
HURT all their lives like HOWE HOWER dog
lovers PREFER to HURT THEIR DOGS?

"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."

The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.

We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...

terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."

Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should
knee the dog in the chest, step on its toes, throw
him down by his ears and climb all over it like
a ****d ape growling into his throat and bite IT
on his ears, or leash pop it on a pronged spiked
pinch choke collar or pop him in the snout with
the heel of your palm.
"BethF" <dawg@alaska.com> wrote in message news:ugc7us32ki5fb9@corp.supernews.com...


news:<20020610173326.01953.00000597@mb-fx.aol.com>...


"Rocky" <2dogs@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message news:Xns92FEEC097E4AAaustralianshepherdca@130.133. 1.4...


You think matty's playin with a full
goddamned deck?

matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.
He's a MENTAL CASE.

Isn't that true, Marilyn?

Of course not, but THIS IS:

"Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap," professora gingold.
"Marshall Dermer" <dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message news:a3h5qn$mra$1@uwm.edu...


You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF
SHAKE:"

"I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
Cir***stance Ever, Where Slapping A
Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"

LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.

"I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
a good working dog by making them unhapper,
fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?


Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
professor SCRUFF SHAKE?

amy lying frosty dahl continues:

"On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
we have trained require much more
frequent and heavy application of pressure
(PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,

This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome

Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
less tractable dogs may require you to
progress to striking them more sharply"

BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...

"Try pinching the ear between the metal
casing and the collar, even the buckle on
the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"

OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.

"You can press the dog's ear with a
shotshell instead of your thumb even
get a studded collar and pinch the ear
against that Make the dog's need to stop
the pinching so urgent that resisting your
will fades in importance.

CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
using the stick and no ear pinch.

When the dog is digging out to beat the
stick and seems totally reliable without
any ear pinch, you are finished

This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome"

If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
under the chin, say "No! Hold!"

(stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
because the ear is getting tender, or the
dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
frosty dahl.

"Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
professora gingold.
From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
In article <38CC0C43.94E2DDD1@earthlink.net> rhurwitz@earthlink.net writes:

Please try Powell's Books in Portland
Oregon. Their URL is:

http://www.powells.com/

Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
new and used books on its shelves. You
can order books via e-email.

Koehler Method Of Dog
Training
by Koehler, W R
Published by HOWELL BOOK
HOUSE (0876056575,

================================================== ======

Here's some quotes and some methods right
outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream "NO!"
into its
face for 5
seconds:"

"The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."

Hanging

"First, the trainer makes certain that the collar
and leash are more than adequate for any jerk
or strain that the dog's most frantic actions could cause. Then
he starts
to work the dog deliberately and fairly to the point where the dog
makes his
grab.

Before the teeth have reached their target,
the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
the ground.

As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems the dog is
suspended
in mid-air.

However, to let the biting dog recover
his footing while he still had the strength
to renew the attack would be cruelty.

The only justifiable course is to hold him
suspended until he has neither the strength
nor inclination to renew the fight.

When finally it is obvious that he is
physically incapable of expressing his
resentment and is lowered to the ground,
he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
over on his side.

The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
let it alarm you

THE REAL "HOOD"

"If your dog is a real "hood" who would
regard the foregoing types of protest as
"kid stuff" and would express his
resentment of your efforts by biting,
your problem is difficult -- and pressing.

"Professional trainers often get these
extreme problems. Nearly always the
"protest biter" is the handiwork of a
person who, by avoiding situations that
the dog might resent, has nurtured the
seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
the resultant growth with under correction.

When these people reap their inevitable
and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
trainer" whose advice they may have
once rejected because it was incompatible
with the sugary droolings of mealy-
mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
and dog psychologists who, by the
broken skins and broken hearts their
misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
since the dawn of time.

"With more genuine compassion for the
biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
by those who are "too kind" to make a
correction and certainly with more disregard
for his safety, the professional trainer
morally feels obligated to perform a "major
operation."

"Since we are presently concerned with
the dog that bites in resentment of the
demands of training, we will set our
example in that situation. (In a later
chapter we will deal with the with the
much easier problem of the dog that
bites someone other than his master."

Are we havin FUN yet?

Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
  Reply With Quote
6 27th March 06:09
michael
External User
 
Posts: 1
Default OT - possibly - dumb question - likely! ( michael goes off onRobin aka Manadero)


Hello Fans,

this is a dogtv.com networks production

Robin Manadero Whothe****ever is typical of a modern
American phenomenon which is the preponderancy of an
hysterical fat ass busybody suburban white woman
population of irrational illogical, insane, under***ed,
ignorant, lying deceiving, demonizing, deliberate
propagators of doghating bullshit, deception,
idiocy, ignorance and outright lies.

The tragic thing is that these fat ugly swine actually
believe they are doing something good by attacking dogs,
attacking breeders, attacking puppies, attacking owners
owners and everything except the agencies and
institutions who murder dogs for profit.

The agencies which manufacture something called
the "Pet Overpopulation Crisis" in their own
financial interest so they can milk americans legions
of ****ER ANIMAL LOVERS who unwittingly FUND the
EXTERMINATION of healthy dogs and cats in America
with their donations to "humane" societies.

This manufactured "crisis" allows agencies like the
ASPCA to take in money two important ways.

1. as paid dog exterminators
for their local areas

2. from donations from ****er animal
lovers who actually believe the
propaganda and believe that these
agencies are doing something good
for pets.

They are not. They use their money to fuel anti dog
legislation, antidog propaganda, antidog policy, all the
while complaining about all the dogs they have to kill.

Or, rather, all the dogs they are PAID to kill.

Nobody kills dogs for free. They wouldn't do it,
if they didn't get PAID to do it.

Any agency who murders pets does so, not for the good
of pets, not for the good of society, not for the good
of ANYONE or ANYTHING but THEMSELVES!

The impetus behind much of the venom you are seeing here
is because many of these ignorant dog hating cows, such
as Robin "Manadero" and Emily Carroll are often members
of the kinds of organizations which get paid to murder dogs.

Organizations like the American Society for the
Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. This "society" functions
as paid dog exterminators all over America. They get paid
by governments and townships to round up and eliminate dogs.
They aren't murdering dogs because of any "crisis." They are
murdering dogs and cats because it is their function. It is
their job. They are performing a service for which they are
paid quite well.

This income is subsidized by lots of donations from ****er
animal lovers who contribute money to fund unnecessary
invasive and often times harmful surgery on pets as well as
the extermination of kittens and cats and dogs and puppies.


GUILT AND SHAME
Because of the guilt and the shame and the self hatred
that is inherent in this pet murdering line of work,
members of these pet murdering societies and their
proponents and apologists irrationally lash out at
anyone and everyone to redirect the self-hate
and self-loathing which is all part of the job of being
a dog murderer.

Just ask Emily Carroll. The puppy murderer who held
the puppies down while they were being murdered
and put their dead bodies in the trash bags in the
freezer for the garbage men to pick up.

Emily Carroll who put the dead puppies in the trash
bag and Emily Carroll the dog vivisectionist apologist
who worked for dog vivisectionists and who started this
whole imbroglio because of her own guilt and shame.


PART II
Now, bear with me fans, if you will, as I wade
through the foul stench of this dog hating
hypocrite ROBIN aka MANADERO to expose her idiocy,
ignorance and lies.


THE DOG HATING HYPOCOW NATION
And I don't do this very often fans, because I
don't have the time, so pay attention. And I'm only
doing it to Robin, because she seems to be a big
fish in the dog hating hypocow community. At least in
the online dog hating Hypocow Nation

BRILLIANT!

A car is a known product. A puppy is a known product.
Both of them are very difficult to mistake when you seem them. BRILLIANT!


Maybe because by purchasing a pup, they can avoid
dealing with a fatass busybody lying, deceiving thieving
guilt-tripping ignorant piece of shit such as yourself?

They can just go to the store and buy what they want.
A freaking puppy, instead of going through the Spanish
Inquisition with an irrational, hysterical, mentally
ill dog hating basket case such as yourself you fat
assed dumb ****ing ignorant lying ****ing bitch!

Are you with me so far, because I'm just getting
warmed up!

Well WHIPde FRICKIN'DOO!!!

altered? Why, was there something wrong with them?
Of course, to people such as yourself, a puppy who
has not been surgically mutilated is an abomination.

That might be another reason someone might not want
to get a puppy from you. They might not believe
that a dog with *** organs is something to fear,
hate and loathe. Which is what you believe, and if
it's not what you believe, it is the message you
bleed in the lies and ignorance that you spread.


What he cares about is GETTING A ****ING PUPPY
and GIVING IT A GOOD LIFE. That's why he asked
for HEALTH INFORMATION YOU FAT****ING DUMB****ING
DOG HATING COW!!

All people who raise animals in America do so for profit.
Except, if we are to believe the lies and the alternate
Universe idiocy coming out of dog hating HypoCows such
as yourself, that dogs are somehow an exception to
that rule.

They are not an exception. If you are breeding dogs and
you are not making a profit, you are doing it wrong. Losing
money, means you are doing a shitty job, which is what
most "reputable breeders" whose (in)breeding grounds
are wholesale genetic disaster areas.

Your chances of getting a healthy dog are FAR better by
rolling the dice and getting a RANDOM BRED dog off the street
or from an ACCIDENTAL BACKYARD BRED LITTER or from a
mixed breed puppy mill bred litter you got from a pet store
than from getting a pup from a "reputable breeder."

These groups are littered with thousands of stories
of people who went to "reputable breeders" and got burned.

BWHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!

It's simple science and genetics. All purebreeds in America
suffer from inbreeding depression.

This is the Preeminent American dog guru talking.
Just accept what I say, people and bow before my
superior wisdom and knowledge.

Michael is NEVER wrong.


No, it's not because of lack of homes. Because most of
those animals had homes and then lost them. Usually,
they take the pet to a "shelter" and then the "shelter"
murders the pet because they get paid to murder pets.


NO CRISIS
It's very simple. There is no pet overpopulation crisis.
There are agencies who get paid to murder pets, who want
to divert attention away from that fact, by creating
a massive "crisis" and then blaming the rest of the
world for the animals they get paid to murder.

And their foot soldiers are fat ass suburban
white woman hypocow dog murderers such as yourself
Robin Dumb**** Manadumbo. And I am your mortal
enemy. Someone who is going to bring your whole
campaign crashing to the ground in flames you
fatass dumb****ing dog hating pig!

Hold on, I'm not done with you yet...


BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!!

Lots of people do, especially people who
want healthy dogs. All other breeders of
domestic plants and animals crossbreed
religiously, because of the extraordinary
benefits of hybrid vigor. To argue against
this is to argue against the existence of
the Sun.

And only an entirely irrational, hysterical,
dog hating imbecile such as yourself would
do so. The sad thing is, is that there is a
whole freaking army of you all across America.

But it will take a herd 50 MILLION STRONG
of your stupid fat**** ****ing sister HYPOCOWs

and I will still
shatter your hate and fear and lies and
ignorance with skill, logic, science, style
art, and a pitbull tenacity that you are not
prepared for. I am an opponent the likes of
which you have not seen before.

I am someone who will not see the future of
dogs in American given over to policy created
by people who fear, hate, murder and exterminate
dogs in the name of being

H U M A N E

This shit is gonna stop. You cannot stand on
a foundation of hate and fear and lies. Not
against me you dumb ****ing cow! BACK! BACK I SAY!

DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE
And if they do their research correctly, and
if they are shrewd enough to eschew the lies
and ignorance and fear and hate coming from
the fat ass Dog Hating HypoCow Nation, they might
just get a crossbred or mixed breed puppy, that
hasn't been surgically mutilated in order to
"fix" what was never broken in the first place.

Then they are

A. STUPID
B. Producing CRAP which nobody with
good money will want to pay for


Love of dogs does not produce good dogs. Science,
knowledge, genetics and common sense do. Love
alone will get you nothing. Love along with
all the above is fine. You've got nothing but
lies and ignorance, bitch. I'll start a fast food
puppy mill McPuppy Franchise all over America
before I buy a puppy from the likes of you.

People who do things well make money. This is one of
the central lessons of the twentieth
century where Capitalism trounced Communism.

To Melinda Shores everlasting regret

If you are losing money breeding dogs, you will
go extinct. You will fade away and die. And rightly so.

Then STOP MURDERING THEM if you care about them. Emily MURDERED
puppies, like anyone who worked or volunteered at a "shelter."

Tim Knight bought a puppy and I assume he'll take
care of it. He has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with DOG
AND PUPPY MURDERERS such as Emily Carroll.

You got that you dumb ****ing bitch?
Do you UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMIN'
OUT OF MY MOUTH???


If you are truly worried about dogs, then stop
murdering them, and stop working and supporting
organizations who murder them for profit.

Organizations like the ASPCA. Are you affiliated
in any way with this organization?


The following is a paragraph of complete ignorance
from someone who has absolutely ZERO knowledge of
science, population genetics, or anything else rational
or logical or scientific.

That paragraph was simply an attempt to lie, deceive and
distract someone from the undeniable fact that a crossbreed
and mixed breed dogs are by definition, statistically and
undeniably healthier than their purebred counterparts.

Again, someone who would argue against this, would
argue against the existence of the sun.


See above lies, ignorance and hysteria, and then clean
the bullshit off your glasses.


It's not a fraction of the cost. Because everything shelters
do is for money. They get money when they take dogs in.
They get money when they murder dogs. They get money when
they "sell" dogs go "adopters" and they get money from
****er animal lovers who fund the extermination of the
majority of animals who end up in the "shelters" of
America.

So quit ****ING LYING for FIVE MOTHER****ING
SECONDS! Whatever your goal is, you can not and
WILL NOT achieve it by LYING to the public.

You will SUFFOCATE in your own bullshit. And I
am the agent which will start the AVALANCHE that
Will CONSUME you.

So Stay the **** out of my way.
If you could be so polite? Thanks!

EDUCATION
You haven't provided any education. You have provided

1. LIES
2. IGNORANCE
3. FEARANOIA
4. HYSTERIA
5. and BULLSHIT in ABUNDANCE


which is the ONLY thing people such as you, sisters of the
HYPOCOW NATION produce.


And I'm your ****ING PROFESSOR. And your homework for
tonight?

Write on the blackboard 50,000 times

I WILL NOT LIE ABOUT DOGS

I WILL NOT MURDER DOGS FOR PROFIT

I WILL NOT JOIN OR SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS WHO MURDER
DOGS FOR PROFIT

I WILL NOT HATE ON DOGS

I WILL STOP BLAMING THE PEOPLE WHO CREATE DOGS
FOR THE DOGS I MURDER

I WILL START TARGETING THE PEOPLE WHO
MURDER DOGS INSTEAD OF SUPPORTING THEM
IF I "REALLY" CARE ABOUT DOGS.

IF I MURDER A DOG, I AM RESPONSIBLE
FOR MURDERING THAT DOG and NO ONE ELSE

Swallow this you dumb ****ing dog hating
fat ass mother****ing donkeyschlong ****ing
fatassed ignorant lying, deceiving, thieving
piece of trailer trash ignorant fat****
fugly dog murdering mother****ing sow!


Other than that I don't have any problems with you.

Have a nice evening.


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7 27th March 06:09
the puppy wizard
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Thanks, Soup!

care of who they go


tend to be a little


shelter (one that is a
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Howedy Wiz!

Dhowen't mention it.

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the puppy wizard
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RIGHT! It's better to be raised in your HOWES and
abused from day WON and then MURDERED by
the person you TRUST to do what's BEST for you
like HOWE you done to your DEAD DOG Summer.
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Stop *****-footing around Michael, and tell us what you REALLY think!!!

Sorry about the pun.
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