The puppy wiza 2012-08-03 09:27:19
From: John F Richardson (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Subject: Re: Pablo an Beth Charged by Stray Pit Bull!
Ron Hardin drones on:
:There is a piece on APBT’s in Adam’s Task,
:in fact the piece with the Snapshot of a Dog
:in it I think, where she deals with the
:Terrier’s love of a worthy opponent
:[blah blah blah]
The very fact that you think that you
are informing me of something about
Pit Bull fighting spirit that I don’t know
better than you ever will by alluding to
fully capable of being.
Now, an ethical dog man would be aghast
at the idea of, in effect, matching some
neutered rescue cur against some stray,
which is just the “match” I would have
allowed if I subscribed to the Thurber-
Hardin school of “let the fights begin”.
Indeed, some fairly unethical dogmen
would no doubt be aghast at anyone
who, though capable of stopping it,
allowed such a fight to take place.
:She did not think to say that Thurber
:should have confined his dog, …
To tell you the God’s honest truth, I
don’t much care what she thought to
say about it. I suspect that her silence
on the matter merely reflects the fact
that that wasn’t the point under discussion,
and good essayists don’t meander the way
usenet newsgroup posters often do.
But if it is her heartfelt opinion that
Thurbers lackadaisical attitude towards
keeping a Pit Bull was A-OK, then I have
no qualms in stating that she’s wrong
:She had a piece about a PB owner in
:Bandit I think, who certainly didn’t let
:his dogs roam free – you won’t find a PB
:owner in bars after work because he has
:to get home to take care of his beauties,
:was the gist of his point to the “press.”
I not only remember the passage. I remember
the point she was making in that passage.
Yours eludes me.
:On the other hand, she respects the
Does she respect it as expert handling
advice, or as a decent literary stab at
describing the fighting spirit of an APBT?
It makes a difference, you do understand.
:and PB’s do roam free around me, and
:there’s no trouble, [yadda yadda …].
Let us assume that Pit Bulls roam free
around you, and that by some chance of
fate, your omniscient claim that there is
NO trouble [vs none that you know of] is
100% correct. Now, when I first met
Joseph, there was trouble within the first
minute or so. Are you capable of grasping
the difference between the two situations?
:She was very explicit in the piece about SC
:that I quoted, about dogs being allowed to
:roam, which means they’re not all being
:rounded up and killed, being heartening.
And let me be quite explicit in my response
to that passage, which I felt at the time
almost as strongly as I do now: That passage
played needlessly into the hands of the
enemy by suggesting a starry-eyed naivite
about the realities of roaming dogs that was
almost as painfully indifferent to the realities
of roaming dogs (who AREN’T wild animals.
after all) as the “peaceable kingdom” blather
that is so often spouted by the AR/AW loons.
I DON’T, however, think that VH is that
naive at all. Let’s recall the opening
sentences (_Bandit_: p 281):
“It used to bother me to see dead dogs
and cats lying in the road. Still does, …”
And then she went on to describe her
unusual, unexpected sensations on seeing
dead dogs in South Carolina. And then she
relates her interpretation of this sensation
as due to the fact that dead dogs in the
road meant that they hadn’t all been rounded
up and killed by the local humane society.
It’s quite a road from here to “let all dog
aggressive Pit Bulls run free!” But I’m not
sure the opponents have the subtlety of
mind to see the difference. And I’m sure
that you don’t.
:My complaint about you was not that you
:intervened but that you took the dog to a
:shelter, the enemy of dogs, and self-
:righteously too. The choices were: leave
:the dog alone to find his way home (the
Leave the dog alone and pretend that he
will find his way home and all will live happily
ever after is INDEED the likely “majority
choice”, which is why people who are, shall
we say, “above average” re knowledge of
the issues and the necessary competencies
to do something useful have to act.
:take the dog around to find its owner – I
:have done this successfully;
As have I, but not with dogs unknown in
the area. And by taking it to the shelter
instead of playing “you find me/I find you”
for days on end with an unknown owner, I
took it to the one place any decent owner
would know where to look, meathead.
:or take the dog home and train it,
Which constitutes theft, according to
:which makes it certain to find a new home.
Oh, tell me about it, Mr Expert Pit Bull
Rescuer. I’ve been holding Pablo for close
to three months, with nary a nibble in this
Pit Bull glutted world. But, due to felicities
in my wife’s and my schedules, and a
temperament that makes it possible to
keep him around other dogs under super-
vision, neither our life, nor Pablo’s nor
the life of our pack has been needlessly
disrupted. Joseph would have been quite
a different matter.
:Any genuine help is always hard work.
Don’t even DREAM of condescending to
me on this score, you useless font of
other people’s not-quite-on-topic words.
I’ve helped get more dogs out of shelters
than you’ve ever spent five minutes with.
And there are people on this list with
rescue records miles longer than mine.
You don’t see any of THEM whining at me,
now do you?
No, it’s just you and the class clown, Jerry.[Rest of Hardin’s sanctimonious, baloney-
headed blather snipped.]
Pit Bull Libertarian
The puppy wiza 2012-08-03 09:27:24
“I would not own and do not help rescue
any Pit Bull that shows any signs of human
aggression or excessive fearfulness.
But that leaves me with lots to do.”