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Hi there,

I am running a small community page with PHP. Members can select
notification e-mails on comments etc.

Since today those e-mails - or basically all e-mails from the system -
get taged as spam with a score of 3.5 that totally results to BAYES_99.

How come? I am using PHP-Mailer 1.73. I am wondering if this will go
away if I upgrade to 2.0. However I would rather not like to do that
as a .0 release makes me a bit worried.

Does anybody have an idea on how to eleminate that BAYES_99 score? Those
mails are absolutly no spam. They contain a link to the commment page
but that should not be the problem. At least it was not a problem for
the last years.

Any ideas?

Thank you for any help,

Merlin

parasane

[snip!]

Merlin,

Despite the name, PHP-Mailer has nothing to do with PHP aside from
the fact that this is the language in which it's written. Some things
that may help you out:

1.) See if there's a forum or list for the PHP-Mailer script.
2.) Search Google to see if there's anyone who suddenly came upon
a similar issue.
3.) Contact your server admin to see if any changes were made to
the SMTP server.
4.) See if your IP address(es) or domain(s) are listed in the RBL
or a similar list.
5.) Send yourself a test email and view the actual source of that.
Generally, the SPAM filter will give details in the headers.


--
Daniel P. Brown
[Phone Numbers Go Here!]
[They're Hidden From View!]

If at first you don't succeed, stick to what you know best so that you
can make enough money to pay someone else to do it for you.

stuttle

This is most likely to be the content of the messages you're sending
rather than the structure of the emails as created by PHPMailer.


I doubt it but stranger things have happened. However this has nothing
to do with PHP itself, and would get a better response from a
PHPMailer-specific list (I assume there is one).

AFAIK BAYES_99 means it thinks there is a 99% chance of it being spam,
that's very high for something you're saying is an operational email. Is
that link the only thing they contain? If so try adding more text.

It's also worth noting that this score comes from a system that's
capable of learning: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_spam_filtering

-Stut

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Hello everybody,

thank you for the reply.

Stut schrieb:


I found that it almost any e-mail sent now from the site has that 3.5
spam score. Registration e-mails, Nitification e-mails etc.


You are right. I was just wondering if somebody else here has
experienced it today in their apps.


99%? How can they be so wrong? There must be a serious reason for that.

The message looks like this:

---
Hello xy,

You are receiving this email because you are watching
the topic, "Topicname " at Community

This topic has received a reply since your last visit.
You can use the following link to view the replies made.

http://link

If you no longer wish to watch this topic you can either
click the "Stop watching this topic link" found at the
bottom of the topic above (after you login!), or by
clicking the following link:

http://www.link
---
STrange, isn't it?


`Thanks, will do.

Best regards,

Merlin

almostbob

It looks surprisingly like spam.
change the structure perhaps,
include text more specific to the community/less generic.
and contact the administrator of the mailwasher to request a review, spam
daemon gets tighter as time passes with more hits, it is more difficult to
be whitelisted
--
If at first you dont succeed
try try try again
If at first you do succeed
try not to look surprised

_

ceo

Bayes usually refers to the Bayseian (sp?) algorithm where the system
"learns" what is junk based on users' marking things as spam.

So if you add a bunch of people to your list that don't expect to be
on it, and they all mark your email as spam, whammo, all your emails
are marked as spam.

Or so I understand it...

Or possibly mis-understand it. :-v

--
Some people have a "gift" link here.
Know what I want?
I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist.
http://cdbaby.com/from/lynch
Yeah, I get a buck. So?

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Richard Lynch schrieb:


That sounds logical. However those e-mails are opt-in. So it is very
unlikely that this has happend. I also checked red lists etc.

I believe that I did not configure the server well and the php sending
function so that the header is missing important settings or so. After
all the Bayes_99 is the only spam trigger.

Unfortunatelly I can only find postings on the net where people talk
about how to tweak their spamassasin filtering. Nobody who sends e-mails
seams to have a problem. Is that only me? (and of course the spamers :-) ).

I tried to send it directly from unix command: mail -s "This is a test"
email@example.com

That one gets flaged with bayes_50 (spam score 0). After all most of the
e-mails I receive in my private account are even bayes_00 (-2.x).

Do you believe it is the IP-Adress? I could not find it anywhere on the
red lists. All looks clean.

Any ideas?

Thank you for any hints,

Merlin