libertystrikesback

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,11026,1029974,00.html

Nothing deterred by the hot water they are in over the Iraq invasion,
the British Quisling-puppets of American neo-Nazism are pressing ahead
with their plans for a card-carrying police state. This too is no
doubt at the behest of their masters, a field experiment in Airstrip
One for the grander project of Oceania. The Home Secretary, David
Blunkett, is to first try out the project in an unnamed small market
town, according to the Guardian newspaper.

Uninformed residents could well awake one morning to ask, "Where am
I?"

"In ... the ... village", the soul-squashing reply will come.

Freeman
http://www.geocities.com/LibertyStrikesBack/

harry the horse

I wonder if it will be a criminal offence for inhabitants of this 'small
market town' to refuse to participate?

matthew robb

On 27 Aug 2003 02:10:24 -0700, libertystrikesback@yahoo.co.uk

Whilst I'm not sure I subscribe to the Oceania theory, the Big Brother
ID card ideal is not for me.

Civil right in this country have taken enough of a bashing, see
http://www.magnacartaplus.org/civil-liberties/attacks.htm


cheers

matt

mark k

Or, perhaps, Blair was rewarding his Jewish supporters, as was Australia's
Prime Minister, John Howard.


Excerpts from: http://www.jewsweek.com/society/022.htm

"British Jewish vote undergoes shift as Labor Party modifies Israel stance
By Richard Allen Greene /Jewish Telegraphic Agency

The rise of Tony Blair to the head of the Labor Party changed the equation
yet again. "Blair has attacked the anti-Israelism that had existed in the
Labor Party," said Jon Mendelsohn, of the Labor Friends of Israel lobby
group.

"The milieu has changed. Zionism is pervasive in New Labor. It is automatic
that Blair will come to Labor Friends of Israel meetings," Mendelsohn said.

Both parties have significant Jewish financial support. In fact, Labor
recently found itself in a minor political crisis over a huge contribution
from a Jewish donor. On New Year's Eve 2001, the Sunday Telegraph newspaper
revealed that Labor had received a $2.8 million contribution - the largest
political donation ever made in Britain to date.

The party came under fire from both the opposition and some of its own
members before it announced two days later that the unprecedented gift had
come from Lord Paul Hamlyn, a multimillionaire publisher whose family had
come to London from Berlin in 1933, fleeing the Nazis. Labor's chief fund
raiser is another Jew, Lord Michael Levy, who also serves as Blair's special
Middle East envoy.

Mendelsohn, on the other hand, points to Labor's record after four years in
office. "It's hard to see how the government could have been any more
supportive of the community," he said, pointing to the creation of Holocaust
Memorial Day and the passage of a new anti-terrorism bill aimed at groups
like Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

dan scorpio

Of course not: they'll just fix it such that you can't withdraw from your
bank,
pay by credit card or rent a video etc, etc. without showing your card.
The answer of course is to tell any bank/shop/whatever that does participate
in this manner to **** off & that yu will be doing business elsewhere in
future.

In Macclefield, Cheshire, certain shops are 'demanding' thumbprints on
the back of receipts as a 'security measure' (implying of course that if
you refuse to comply you are a crook). Guess where I won't go shopping.
I seem to remember that certain chain stores (Dixons & BHS) unsuccessfully
attempted to run a similarly Orwellian scheme a couple of years ago...

harry the horse

So I'll use internet banking.


Buy as much as possible from the web.


Modern films are all shite anyhoo ;-)


That's outrageous. I certainly would refuse to comply.

Dixons: yet one more reason not to shop there.
BHS: I thought they went bust years ago.

dirk bruere at neopax

My God!
They'll be asking us to *sign* things next!

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millennium
http://www.theconsensus.org

harry the horse

So you are content for any jobsworth to demand your thumbprint when buying
10 CD-Rs? I should have thought that a small photograph on one's credit
card would be far more effective against fraud than all this impertinent and
pointless demanding of customer's thumbprints.

harry the horse

One thing that is effective is worth more than any number of things that are
not. How can acquiring a thumbprint establish identity? Only if the shop
has access to a database of thumbprints and the means of accurately
comparing the customer's print to one on file. Nature has already given us
a way of accurately comparing a face with a photograph. They are call eyes.

dirk bruere at neopax

eyes.

I assume the idea is that if a stolen card/cheque is used there is an
immediate and unequivocal proof of the identity of the guilty party (when
caught).
No having to rely on eye witness testimony, or grainy CCTV (both
disputable).
And such thieves usually already have a criminal record.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millennium
http://www.theconsensus.org