erik trammel

The U.S. invasion and regime change of Iraq was justified
for several cogent reasons. Saddam Hussein ran a terrorist
state. Here is more material to support this assertion:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=8935

mark k

Sure we believe a Jewish guy on a subject he is unbiased on. <chuckle>

erik trammel

I didn't know Larry Elder was Jewish. And how is this relevant, you
anti-Semite? Socialists like you are really racist bigots, just like
your icons Hitler and Stalin.

petzl

Larry Elder is Jewish? When did he convert?
Photo of him here
<http://www.larryelder.com/navigations/navigations_r1_c2.jpg>


Petzl
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LET'S LOOK OUT FOR AUSTRALIA
http://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/
Protecting our way of life from terrorist threat

ayn_r_keey

Full Citation:

Townhall.com - 2003.07.16
SADDAM PLUS AL-QAEDA = WMDS By Larry Elder

More distortions from FrontPage?

Hey, did Elder ever serve in the American Military,
or is he a ****head totalitarian ex-maoist chickenhawk
like horrorwitz?

Let's look into this less than a whole page of "material":

["
In 1998, Saddam Hussein kicked out the United Nations
inspectors. At the time, the inspectors concluded that
Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction,
including VX nerve gas and anthrax, and continued to
develop them.
"] {FrontPage Elder story cited above}

Did they? Not necessarily,
according to UNSCOM's own March 1998 Do***ent:

__________________________________________________ ______________
|
| UNSCOM MAIN ACHIEVEMENTS
| March 1998
| http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/Achievements/achievements.html
|
| 1. UNSCOM has uncovered significant undeclared
| proscribed weapons programmes, destroyed elements of
| these programmes so far identified, including equipment,
| facilities and materials, and has been attempting to map
| out and verify the full extent of these programmes in
| the face of Iraq's serious efforts to deceive and
| conceal. UNSCOM also continues to try to verify Iraq's
| illegal unilateral destruction activities. The
| investigation of such undeclared activities is crucial
| to the verification of Iraq's declarations on its
| proscribed weapons programmes.
|
| 2. Examples of what has been uncovered since 1991
| include: the existence of Iraq's offensive biological
| warfare programme; the chemical nerve agent VX and other
| advanced chemical weapons capabilities; and Iraq's
| indigenous production of proscribed missiles engines.
| Following these discoveries, UNSCOM has directed and
| supervised the destruction or rendering harmless of
| several identified facilities and large quantities of
| equipment for the production of chemical and biological
| weapons as well as proscribed long-range missiles.
|
| 3. UNSCOM has supervised the destruction
| of the following proscribed items.
|
| MISSILE AREA:
|
| - 48 operational long-range missiles
| - 14 conventional missile warheads
| - 6 operational mobile launchers
| - 28 operational fixed launch pads
| - 32 fixed launch pads (under construction)
| - 30 missile chemical warheads
| - other missile support equipment and materials
| - supervision of the destruction of a variety
| of assembled and non-assembled "super-gun" components
|
| CHEMICAL AREA:
|
| - 38,537 filled and empty chemical munitions
| - 690 tonnes of chemical weapons agent
| - more than 3,000 tonnes of precursors chemicals
| - 426 pieces of chemical weapons production equipment
| - 91 pieces of related ****ytical instruments
|
|
| BIOLOGICAL AREA:
|
| - the entire Al-Hakam,
| the main biological weapons production facility
| - a variety of
| biological weapons production equipment and materials
|_________________________________________________ _______________


It says that UNSCOM had discovered
"significant undeclared proscribed weapons programmes",
but had destroyed the
"elements of these programmes so far identified".

It says that Iraq was
in violation of UN Security Resoloutions through their
"efforts to deceive and conceal"
weapons possession and production.

They also stated that Iraq's covert and Independent of UNSCOM
destruction of their banned weapons stocks was
"illegal unilateral destruction activities",
which made
"verification of Iraq's declarations
on its proscribed weapons programmes"
difficult, if not impossible for UNSCOM.

The do***ent then lists a very large amount of banned WMDs,
and WMD production facilities that UNSCOM had destroyed.

Nowher in this do***ent is there any mention of Iraq's
possession of WMDs in 1998, only that UNSCOM had not been
able to verify Iraq's claim of unilateral destruction of said
stocks.

Is Elder a Bushitter here,
or is his intellect bushallow?

Then the article cites
"Mansoor Ijaz, in an article in the National Review"
as its evidence for the connection between al Qaida and Saddam.

Bells should immediately be going off inside of any aware person's
head over this citation. Ijaz has lied about his education in the
past,
and his Invstment group has deep ties to past american CIA spooks.

Less than a credible source by itself.

All in all,
your "material" here is weak and lame.

theman

The whole opinion piece he posted is full of lies, propaganda and other
various forms of bullshit.

The sentence "In 1998, Saddam Hussein kicked out the United Nations
inspectors." gives away that this whole opinion piece is written by a
Zionist retard without a ****ing clue. He NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER
kicked the UN out of Iraq. This lie keeps circulating about, and those with
a education higher then 6th Grade have to keep pointing out the fact it's a
lie to the retard Bushies.

Then it goes on to say that the French said Iraq never complied with
Resolution 1441. Funny that, I never remember them saying anything of the
sort, and surprise surprise, the opinion piece dribble writter didn't even
provide a source.

Just more ****ing bullshit from the Jew Erik Trammel.

-TheMan-

mark k

Before you call anyone an anti-Semite (whatever that means) you need to get
off your Hypocritical High Holiday Horse and acknowledge, apologise and make
amends for the chronic anti-nonSemitism of yourself and of your tribe. (See
below.)


"Saving of Life

THIS SUBJECT - the supreme value of human life and the obligation of every
human being to do the outmost to save the life of a fellow human - is of
obvious importance in itself. It is also of particular interest in a Jewish
context, in view of the fact that since the Second World War Jewish opinion
has - in some cases justly, in others unjustly - condemned 'the whole world'
or at least all Europe for standing by when Jews were being massacred.

Let us therefore examine what the Halakhah [Jewish Religious Law] has to
say on this subject.

According to the Halakhah, the duty to save the life of a fellow Jew is
paramount.14 It supersedes all other religious obligations and
interdictions, excepting only the prohibitions against the three most
heinous sins of adultery (including ******), murder and idolatry.

As for Gentiles, the basic talmudic principle is that their lives must
not be saved, although it is also forbidden to murder them outright. 15

The Talmud itself expresses this in the maxim 'Gentiles are neither to be
lifted [out of a well] nor hauled down [into it]'.

Maimonides16 explains:

"As for Gentiles with whom we are not at war ... their death must not be
caused, but it is forbidden to save them if they are at the point of death;
if, for example, one of them is seen falling into the sea, he should not be
rescued, for it is written: 'neither shalt thou stand against the blood of
thy fellow'17 - but [a Gentile] is not thy fellow.""

-- CHAPTER 5 The Laws Against Non-Jews From: "Jewish History, Jewish
Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years" by Professor Israel Shahak