harry hope

From The San Francisco Chronicle, 7/25/03:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/07/25/MN294251.DTL

Rotation plan reveals Army's personnel problems

Replacement troops include some not yet committed by foreign countries

Bt Esther Schrader, Los Angeles Times

Friday, July 25, 2003


Washington --

The troop rotation plan announced by the Pentagon this week
underscores the strain that the Iraq war has placed on the military.

The plan, revealed Wednesday, sends new waves of troops for yearlong
deployments in Iraq to relieve the Army's 3rd Infantry Division and
other long- serving units.

But for replacements it relies on foreign troops that have not yet
been committed, on two National Guard combat brigades that have not
yet been trained for the mission, on an Army division that just
returned home from Iraq, and on two new Army brigades that the
Pentagon has not certified as combat- ready.

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In other words, the Bush administration "rotation plan" is just
another Bush lie.

Harry

nu-monet v6.0

I'm missing something here. First of all the foreign troops
can replace the US troops in more peaceful areas. I fail to
see a problem with that. Second, the two Nat Guard brigades
are more "hot bodies", needed for minimal conflict and to
perform mostly guard and police functions--for which they
would need extra training, the Nat Guard not having units
that ordinarily do that, with the exception of a few MP
units.

The Army division that just returned home from Iraq was the
4th Division, that didn't see all that much action, and are
still "fresh" for re-deployment. And last, but not least,
the two "new" Army brigades are "Stryker" brigades, Rumsfeld's
new light mobile units that have just been certified in a
major training exercise but have never been "application
tested", in a war zone.

And the last two are *very* important, because current plans
are for the vast majority of the heavy combat forces to be
converted to Stryker brigades ASAP, so *everything* that
happens to these guys in Iraq will be watched like a hawk.

daniel

WRONG. the 4ID is STIIL IN IRAQ. please try to keep up.

WRONG AGAIN. there are currently NO plans to convert a vast majority of the
heavy units to Strykers. get a clue.

nu-monet v6.0

Gee, you're rude. However, my point still stands
that excitement about military rotations would be
overblown. I see no great crisis here, nor do I
see "Bush lied", which the original poster said,
not even stating about what he was supposedly
lying about.

If you do reply to this, please try to be more
personable.

daniel

when armchair Generals post inaccurate information, they get corrected.

nightwing

My question is Bush wants to replace US troops with foreign Troops. The
question is who is going to be stupid
enough to go 'peacekeeping' in a hot zone. After they way Bush treated the
major european powers (who provide much of the
peacekeepers) do you think they are just going to do him any favors? Quite
the contrary I think they are enjoying watching Bush suffer.

now what

Several of the wimps in the UN will come crawling back and will beg to be
allowed into Iraq. Just wait and see.

daniel

once the EU retards realize that they will be kept out of bidding for
contracts for the rebuilding unless the help get the situation under
control, they will be more than willing to supply troops.

jeffrey turner

Not every country is dim enough to trade blood for money.

--Jeff

--
"To delight in war is a merit in the soldier,
a dangerous quality in the captain, and a
positive crime in the statesman."
George Santayana

"Bring them on."
George W. Bush

lawson english

An alternate idea would be for Russia adn the EU to cooperate and start
exploiting the vast oil and natural resources of the Russian wilderness. An
economic win-win for everyone -except the USA, which made very sure in its
rebuilding efforts with Russia to ensure that Russia did NOT have a viable
infrastructure with which to compete in a free market.


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New definition of irony:

'Today's liberal Democrats are like the supporters of the Third Reich of the
'30's and '40's
- they absolutely trusted the government to "make things right". '
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