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1 28th October 06:36
wes newell
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Well, sadly I'm thinking about replacing one of my trusted KT7 boards with
a DDR model. Don't have much experiences (0) with the newer rams. Been
doing some research and I'm looking at Buffalo tech. Either PC3200 or
PC3700. Both of these appear to use the Winbond chips and reviews of the
PC3700 look pretty good. Since they both use the same winbond chip I might
go with the PC3200 if the price diff is too large. Anyone have direct
experience with either of these, or modules that use the 5B winbond chips.
Same chips should perform about the same on any module.

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2 28th October 06:36
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I was in the same boat as you about a month ago.
I went for Corsair XMS3500 to go with my Epox 8RGA+ - I dont think it was
worth the extra money. In hindsight I should have bought Twinmos 3200 with
Winbond chips - much much cheaper and available from http://www.komplett.co.uk.
Many people at http://www.xtremesystems.org have managed over 230FSB with these
modules on the NF7-S v2.0.
I have no personaly experience with Twinmos (w/ Winbond) ram, but many
highly recommend it and judging by the speeds this ram is getting, it looks
excellent value!
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3 28th October 06:36
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In article <pan.2003.06.27.06.17.34.887561@SICKOFSPAMverizon. net>,
w.newell@SICKOFSPAMverizon.net says...

I don't know anything about Buffalo tech memory. But the technique used
in assembling a memory strip can be just as important to the quality and
stability of a strip as the chips are. Take Samsung chips for example.
Mushkin has built some top notch DDR strips using Samsung chips that are
rock solid and overclock very well, while there are lots of generic
strips sold built using the exact same Samsung chips that are very
problematic and unstable at there advertised speeds, and often have to
be underclocked to get them to run reliably.

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4 30th October 11:04
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would maybe consider some Twinmoss with the 5 ns windbond chios on it pc3200
cas2.5 sticks if not going the highend ram route.


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5 30th October 11:08
wes newell
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No frills oem SIS746FX chipset. Actually I'm not even sure who made it.
Here's the link to it. Well, I should have looked better. It's an asrock.

http://www.asrockamerica.com/Products/K7S8X.htm

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6 30th October 11:09
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asrock is asus's cheapy end


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7 27th November 03:52
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In article <pan.2003.06.29.11.46.55.894984@SICKOFSPAMverizon. net>,
w.newell@SICKOFSPAMverizon.net says...

Well it depends what you paid for it, did you buy just the MOBO, or a
package and most cheapend MOBO's will respond to tweaking if the (1)PSU
is 'clean' enough and the (2) memory is good and the *(3) maker does not
stray too far from the 'reference' design.

http://www.sis.com/ddr/ddr400.htm
http://download.sis.com/sisdlc/driver_select.jsp
http://www.sis.com/news/746reviews.htm

Whilst ASUS don't even figure in the O/C scene the nVIDIA nForce2 is
top-of-the-pops so it's a good starting point. Maybe you can do what
ASUS counld not. Give it a go WES

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8 27th November 03:52
wes newell
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And the reason I couldn't pass this up was I got an 11 bay 300watt mid
tower case and an 1800+ cpu w/hHSF with it, all for $52. Shipping was very
high though, $48. Still $100 delivered to the door for this is hard to
beat as long as it all works. I haven't order the ram yet, but I will
probably get that from newegg once I get a notice that the system shipped.
I ordered this last 6/23 and still haven't got a shipping notice yet.

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9 13th December 01:01
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Good starting point.


Fine, although you only need PC3200 to reach 200MHz FSB


Low latency usually refers to a low CAS Latency or CL. It's the time it
takes to initialise a new column in the memory. There is RAS as well, which
is Row. If you imagine the memory laid out as a matrix this starts to make
sense. The lower the better, a CAS Latency of 2.0 is good.


The nForce 2 chipset, on the A7N8X motherboard supports Dual Channel, which
is two seperate memory controllers. This allows two modules to be
initialised simultaneously, reducing latency. You DO NOT need to buy
specific Dual Channel memory to utilise it - two modules of the same type
(or different, although this seems silly if you're buying new, as the lowest
common denominator is used) and capacity are all thats needed.

See above

http://www.corsairmicro.com/memory_basics/153707/index.html

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10 13th December 01:02
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I believe that it's most profitable to have the same amount of RAM in each
bank. So if you start off with 2x256MB in slots 1 and 3, you can move the
256MB from slot 3 to slot 2, then put a 512MB in Slot 3. Since Slots 0 and
1 are the first channel and slot the the second, you have the same capacity
in each channel. You can however have differing amounts of RAM in each
channel, but only some of it is dual channel (the lowest in either channel,
I think).

The slot colours vary on this board, slots in above description are 1 to 3
with 3 furthest from the CPU.

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