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RESULT
unmoderated group comp.lang.coldfusion fails 96:8

Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Sep 2003.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the
proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Dave Hodder <dmh@dmh.org.uk>
Votetaker: Bill Aten <bill@netagw.com>

There were 104 valid YES/NO votes submitted during the voting period. Each
proposed newsgroup, in order to pass, must have at least 2/3 YES votes and at
least 100 more YES than NO votes. The results are as follows:

comp.lang.coldfusion results - 104 valid (YES & NO) votes

Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
96 8 : Yes No : No : comp.lang.coldfusion
3 abstaining votes and 1 invalid vote

The proposal failed.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
Unless serious and significant allegations of voting irregularities are
raised, the proposal may not be voted on again for six months.

The remainder of the RESULT contains:
Newsgroups Line
Rationale
Charter
Final Voting Acknowledgements

NEWSGROUPS LINE:
comp.lang.coldfusion ColdFusion web application development.

RATIONALE: comp.lang.coldfusion

The currently existing newsgroup alt.comp.lang.coldfusion is well
used. Not all news servers carry alt.* or alt.comp.lang.coldfusion,
however, essentially cutting off parts of the ColdFusion community.
Almost all servers carry the comp.* groups, however, which would make
the proposed group more accessible to users.

(The idea of creating a ColdFusion group within comp.* was first
suggested in message <news:slrnbipp60.r0.dmh@armaros.dmh.org.uk>
on alt.comp.lang.coldfusion on 3 August 2003, where it received broad
support.)

First released in 1995, ColdFusion was the first ever web application
server, with it's ColdFusion Markup Language being the first
programming language designed specifically for server-side web
application development. Now robust and scalable, there are multiple
implementations of ColdFusion available, including ColdFusion 5 and
ColdFusion MX from Macromedia, and the BlueDragon product family from
New Atlanta. With it's level of maturity, a group in the comp.lang.*
hierarchy seems appropriate.

Finally, many news servers give posts to comp.* groups a longer
retention period than posts to alt.* groups, which would be an
additional benefit.

CHARTER: comp.lang.coldfusion

comp.lang.coldfusion is an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of
ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML) and CFScript. Whilst primarily
focused around ColdFusion programming, ColdFusion configuration
issues involving products such as ColdFusion Server and BlueDragon
Server are also considered on-topic.

Other topics which may be discussed in the context of the ColdFusion
environment include: development tools such as Dreamweaver and
ColdFusion Studio; CFX/JSP custom tags and external objects; and
frameworks/design patterns such as Fusebox and MVC. General web
development discussion unrelated to ColdFusion is off-topic and
belongs in a more appropriate group.

Posts must be readable as plain text. Binary posts are not permitted,
with the exception of cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP), which may
be used where appropriate.

Relevant commercial posts are acceptable, but should be limited to one
per month per product.

END CHARTER.

FINAL VOTING ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:

comp.lang.coldfusion - Final Voter List

NOTE: This is not [to be used as] a mailing list. The email addresses
are provided only to help verify the validity of the interest poll.

Voted YES
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adam [at] craze.co.uk Adam Reynolds
adam [at] straker.co.nz Adam Cameron
AEverett [at] askallied.com Al Everett
AidanWhitehall [at] Fairbanks.co.uk Aidan Whitehall
alanh [at] unc.edu Alan Hoyle
asherwood [at] phs-net.com Alexander Sherwood
axonite [at] netscape.net Tyson
ben [at] arledge.net Ben Arledge
ben [at] forta.com Ben Forta
ben [at] websciences.org Ben Curtis
bernhard.steffen [at] gmx.net Bernhard Steffen
bob [at] cave.org Robert Wilkins
bouvin [at] daimi.au.dk Niels Olof Bouvin
Cam.Penner.news1ATpleasedontspamgoldmedalsystems.c om [at] hotmail.com Cam P
cgordon [at] chillco.com Cary Gordon
Chris.Smith [at] airportnet.org CHRISTOPHER E SMITH
chris [at] kzim.com Christopher Robin Zimmerman
chriskrolczyk [at] hotmail.com Chris Krolczyk
croyle [at] gelemna.org Don Croyle
david [at] farrar.com David Farrar
davidl [at] teratech.com David Lakein
DDeeds [at] idahopower.com David Deeds
devnull [at] vianet.ca Trevor Tymchuk
dfrost [at] maths.tcd.ie Dermot Frost
dgoel [at] discountcar.com Dharmesh Goel
dive [at] panix.com Bob Dively
dkent [at] realworldtech.com Dean Kent
dmh [at] dmh.org.uk Dave Hodder
dougbob [at] charter.net D. David OBRIAn
dwatts [at] figleaf.com Dave Watts
Ed.Tennant [at] sas.com Ed Tennant
Ekkehard [at] Uthke.de Ekkehard Uthke
fred [at] fredsanders.com Fred T. Sanders
fungus [at] OCF.Berkeley.EDU Hank Fung
GeorgeF [at] GFonline.org George
ggw [at] wolves.durham.nc.us G.Wolfe Woodbury
hartwichr [at] hotmail.com Ryan Hartwich
iancoles [at] hardcorehost.co.uk Ian Coles
j.houwing [at] student.utwente.nl Jesse Houwing
jared [at] impact451.com Jared Chandler
jdg [at] diogenes.sacramento.ca.us John David Galt
jdk [at] epiphanywebconcepts.com David Keevil
jeandret [at] hotmail.com John
jeff [at] hawkandheron.com Jeff Garza
jhkeller [at] ucdavis.edu Jonathan Keller
jim [at] depressedpress.com Jim Davis
jjohnson [at] lawyersweekly.com Jerry Johnson
jpolaski [at] rgs.uci.edu Jeff Polaski
judith [at] kotter.net Judith Campbell
kenrbnsn [at] rbnsn.com Ken Robinson
kevin.graeme [at] ces.uwex.edu Kevin Graeme
kickkat [at] cetlink.net Todd Ashworth
kowallek [at] iglou.com D. M. Kowallek
krisch [at] sover.net Kristine C. Hege
leebailey [at] mda.uk.com Lee Bailey
linafha [at] hotmail.com Lena Almodamqa
lWold [at] wsscwater.com Lloyd Wold
lyons [at] lyonsmorris.com Larry C. Lyons
mainstreetcentral [at] juno.com Richard Michael
mark [at] good-stuff.co.uk Mark Goodge
martin [at] tonal.demon.co.uk Martin Carroll
mfusfield [at] ins-business.com mattfusf
milton.schmidt [at] goldmedalsystems.com Milton Schmidt
mojo [at] masuga.com Ryan Masuga
mpwoodward [at] hotmail.com Matthew Woodward
mwilson [at] 961media.com Michael Wilson
nfitz [at] sentex.net Nicholas Fitzpatrick
pb-mls [at] onvix.com Phillip Beazley
psmyth [at] gmx.net Peter Smyth
raedwards [at] insightbb.com Rob Edwards
rde [at] ins-business.com Ryan Emerle
rick [at] bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller
rnurse [at] cudbytech.net Robert Nurse
robertjm [at] hockeyhockeyhockey.com Robert Marshall
rod.enke [at] practicematch.com Rodney Enke
sbfaulds [at] ihug.co.nz Stuart Brodie Faulds
sean [at] corfield.org Sean A Corfield
shayne [at] healthinsite.gov.au Shayne Lynch
shrao [at] nyx.net Shrisha Rao
simon [at] darkmere.gen.nz Simon Lyall
slclark [at] shayna.com Sandra L. Clark
smlucas [at] flashmail.com Steven Lucas
steve [at] rootskitchens.co.uk Steve Root
support [at] k2hosting.com Andrew Jarrett
svenc [at] pandora.be Sven Claessens
tbahlke [at] triad.rr.com Tim Bahlke
thomas.chiverton [at] bluefinger.com Thomas Chiverton
thwaitesj [at] yahoo.com John Thwaites
tomo_smith [at] yahoo.co.uk Tomo Smith
Tony.Stratford [at] wch.org.au Tony Stratford
tony [at] navtrak.net Tony Weeg
tormod [at] guldvog.com Tormod Guldvog
van.ette [at] inter.nl.net Robert-Jan van Ette
vegard [at] riseng.net Vegard Riseng
wilco [at] nildram.co.uk Andrew Wilcox
yaakovk [at] earthlink.net Yaakov Kayman

Voted NO
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Barticus [at] att.net Randall Bart
dc [at] panix.com David W. Crawford
naddy [at] mips.inka.de Christian Weisgerber
pan [at] syix.com Pan
setantae [at] submonkey.net Ceri Davies
stainles [at] realtime.net Dwight Brown
thor [at] anta.net Thor Kottelin
zimnyzenon [at] interia.pl Zenobiusz Zimny

Voted ABSTAIN
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aahz [at] pobox.com Aahz Maruch
cuhulain_98 [at] yahoo.com Ranger, The
max [at] alcyone.com Erik Max Francis

Invalid Votes
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rich [at] ba*****t.org Richard Ziade
! No ballot

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