Mombu 2012-05-28 21:07:37
I’ve been shopping for a new bluetooth enabled phone that will allow me
to tether my Tungsten T5 for internet and email access. I’d just about
decided on the LG VX5300; a simple phone with bluetooth on the Verizon
Alas, from what I’ve read on the Palm forums, it seems that the LG line
of phones are not supported by Palm, and therefore, I would not be able
to connect via bluetooth to the LG VX5300 as I had planned. Also, I
don’t see LG as support on the Palm web page nor on my device list on
First, does anyone know of a way to connect a Tungsten T5 to an LG
phone via bluetooth?
Second, I would appreciate anyone who could suggest a current phone and
wireless provider that would allow access from my T5 via bluetooth for
email and internet access (I prefer Verizon, Sprint, other in that
Dervman 2012-05-28 21:07:39
Have you had a look at the network options in the T5 itself, which suggests
a number of handsets. Do you use any other wireless accessories, such as a
headset? This makes a difference. Some handsets are happier to switch
between Bluetooth devices compared with others.
As far as the network goes, I’m assuming you mean North American networks?
My favourite way is to buy an unlocked and typically used handset and then
select the most suitable network.
Verne arase 2012-05-28 21:07:42
I’ve tethered my T5 and LifeDrive to my Nokia 6682 despite the fact that the
phone isn’t officially supported – just put on the Phone patch (and make sure
all the other patches are on) and use IIRC the Other selection (the one you
use if your phone isn’t officially supported).
Since you already have the T5, it costs you nothing to try.
You might want to tether your laptop or PC or whatever if it’s got bluetooth
just to verify it works (the LG’s tethering) before knocking yourself out
getting your Palm to work.
Mombu 2012-05-28 21:08:35
Thanks, Verne, for the response.
I’m not familiar with “IIRC”. I’m assuming that the brand names
supported by the T5 (e.g., Nokia, Motorola, etc.) would be more likely
to work even if the specific model number isn’t shown on the T5 menu.
My problem is the two brands I was considering, LG and Samsung, don’t
appear on the menu in the T5, so I suspect they won’t work. Bummer. It
sure seems odd that Palm would not support these major suppliers!?!?
It’s good to know that if I find a Nokia I like, it might work. But,
your comment about it costing me nothing to try, I don’t understand. I
have to buy a phone. If it doesn’t work, I’m out of luck.
Verne arase 2012-05-28 21:08:39
Well, I’m not at all sure that it’s supporting a generic Nokia – rather it
may simply be supporting a generic GPRS modem.
Check around here (and at Howard Forums) to see if anyone’s tethering off the
phone you want to buy.
General schvan 2012-05-28 21:08:41
Why don’t you just get a Treo 700p and throw the T5 away. The 700p gives
you a phone and a Palm in a single device. It also has Bluetooth and EVDO.
EVDO gives you fast net access. If you can live with slow net access then
you could get a Treo 650, CompUSA was selling those for $50 last weekend.
Mombu 2012-05-28 21:08:44
I seem to be in the minority, but I’d like a PDA that is just a PDA,
and a phone that is just a phone. It would be a real benefit if,
occasionally, I could get the phone to talk to the PDA and allow email
and internet access. It would only be occasionally, but on those
occasions it would really be nice.
If I get a combined unit (pda/cell phone/data access) it would put it
all in one “box”, which sounds convenient. Admittedly, I haven’t used
one, but it seems like the combined unit would give me a poor version
of a PDA along with a poor version of a cell phone.
Thanks, though, maybe I’ll take another look at the all-in-one.
P.S. I also have separate components in my home stereo system 😉
Dervman 2012-05-28 21:08:47
It’s worth considering. My issue with the Treo range is that they have a
thumbboard and I detest these wretched things. The winning combination for
me is Graffiti and an optional full size, *hardware* connected keyboard. I
cannot always use a Bluetooth wireless keyboard…
Victor roberts 2012-05-28 21:08:57
Bill – I use my Palm T|X with a Nokia 6256i on the Verizon
network, through the T|X does not officially support the
this Nokia phone. I just set the profile for “Standard GSM”
and entered the appropriate Init strings to set the phone in
1x mode. Which does bring up another question – which mode
are you planning to use – 1x, which does not require a data
plan, or the faster EVDO, which does?
I would suggest asking your question at
http://forums.wirelessadvisor.com. When I needed a new
Verizon phone last January to replace my aging StarTac, that
is where I discovered which Verizon phones supported the
features I needed and also which Init strings I needed to
get my Nokia into 1x mode.
Replace x** with vdr in e-mail address.
Mombu 2012-05-28 21:09:01
Thanks, Vic, for the info. It is encouraging that you can successfully
use the Nokia 6256i on Verizon. It does confuse me a bit, though,
because the chart from Bluetooth Functionality Chart from the Verizon
website says the 6256i does NOT support Bluetooth DUN. I guess that
reflects the reliability of the information from Verizon.
As to the 1x or EVDO, I plan on using 1x or even Q2N without a data
plan, since my needs for email/internet access from the T5 via the
phone will be only occasional.
And, I’ll post to wireless advisor as you suggested. But, since you’ve
successfully done it, could you share with me the process (I’m new to
this). I may just get the 6256i since it sounds like that one will
work. I had my eye on the LG VX5300, but how can I be sure it will
work? I guess I could go into a Verizon store or Circuit City and see
if they will let me try it out.
Thanks again for the info.
Mombu 2012-05-28 21:09:05
I use Graffiti all the time on my 700p via the write-anywhere feature
of TealScript. There may be other ways to do this. I find it is
usually faster than the thumboard. I also have large hands which makes
the thumboard a bit difficult for me to use. But sometimes the
thumboard works better for unusual characters.
Re: full size keyboard. Does the infrared wireless keyboard not work
with a Treo?
Victor roberts 2012-05-28 21:09:08
I hadn’t noticed that the Verizon Wireless Bluetooth chart
says that the 6256i doesn’t support Bluetooth DUN 🙂 When
I purchased my phone the 6256i was not listed on the VzW
Bluetooth chart but the folks at wirelessadvisor assured me
it would work. I think I had to enter a command from the
keypad once to activate the DUN.
Just go to http://forums.wirelessadvisor.com, set up an
account and ask your question in either the LG forum, the
Verizon forum or the or the Wireless Data and Internet
forum. I would start in the Wireless Data forum, but make
sure you state the carrier and phone data.
I had to go to the local Circuit City since the Verizon
corporate stores did not carry that phone. When I
purchased the phone I wanted both Bluetooth and IR. I no
longer need IR so you may want to consider something like
They may let you try out the phone, but don’t expect any
help. they are clueless relative to wireless data unless you
purchase their plan.
before you go make sure you know the 1x Init strings,
+crm=1;+cso=33 (for the 6256i) and the magic code to
activate the DUN, ##DIALUP on the 6256i. (This is done
only once via the phone keypad and stays set.)
Your account also has to be enabled for certain data
features, such as ring tone downloads. There is no charge
for having the feature enabled, and it should be enabled by
default, but that is something to check if you can’t get the
DUN to work.
Doesn’t Verizon allow you to return any new phone for a
different model within 30 days if it doesn’t meet your
Replace x** with vdr in e-mail address.
Dervman 2012-05-28 21:09:10
Yes; I should have said that it’s where I write as much as what I write on,
if you see what I mean.
Maybe, maybe not: I’ve found infrared keyboard solutions in the past to be
flakey at best…
Mombu 2012-05-28 21:09:12
Not sure I do. Are you saying you do not like using Graffiti anywhere
other than on a dedicated non-screen area? If so why? TS’s write
anywhere works fine. Helps to keep the overall form factor of the Treo
small as well.
My son uses the stock Palm IR keyboard with his TE and he says it works
great. I haven’t tried one with my 700p but Palm lists the IR keyboard
Dervman 2012-05-28 21:09:15
It’s partially because it means writing on a cramped bit of screen real
estate rather than the bit below… and partially because I’d have to hold
the device up there rather than down here.
Ultimately I’m fussy like that!
Yes it does to a point, but I’d still rather dump the keypad and use
Graffiti. Of course this is simply the way I work and I appreciate it’s not
perfect for a device such as this. Plus the 700p isn’t yet readily
available in the UK and I’ve only recently moved from a T2 to a T3, so not
really wanting to upgrade again so soon.
Under certain lighting I’ve had issues with infrared keyboards, office strip
lights seem to interfere with it. My wife used one with her T3 for a while
and it worked great providing it was in just the right location, only all
too often it would move and thus stop working so well.
Also, I’ve yet to find a good sized wireless keyboard that’s as portable as
the Palm Portable Keyboard, which is my benchmark…
Mombu 2012-05-28 21:09:29
There seems to be alot of confusion about what you want to do and what
equipment types are being used. Most of the infomation given has to do
with GSM phones and services and not CDMA (Verizon, Sprint). The phone
listing on the T3, T5, and TX are for GSM phones to be used for the SMS
and dialer applications.
I have successfully paired a Motorola T730 with DC600 attached and a
Motorola V710 to the Palm Tungsten T3 and TX for internet access and
web mail or versamail (pop 3 or imap account) with the Verizon network.
I have not tried this with a LG VX5300, as I don’t have one. I did try
this with a RAZR and the two paired up OK, but I could only get the
internet connection on the QNC (14.4K) network. I think it has to do
with it being an EVDO phone, as I noticed some changes to my account
with that phone activated, which are not there with the other phones
mentioned. I think a VX8300 will also work, but only with 14.4K (same
problem as the RAZR).
The first thing to do is pair the two devices together. This shopuld
not be hard and is fairly straightforward.
Once the pairing is done, go into Preferences/connection and set up a
new connection. Name the connection whatever you like.
The connection will be done in a two step process:
First the “Connect to:” will be set to phone.
The “Via:” will be set to Bluetooth.
There will be a field for “Device:”. If you click on this field, you
should be able to see your phone as a trusted device. Select the phone
and hit OK.
You should now be back a the connection dialog.
Secondly, you need to change the connection dialog information to the
Connect to: PC (The only thing that needs to be changed.)
Via: Bluetooth (Already done.)
Device: (Will already show your phone.)
Speed: 115,200 bps (or whatever is highest)
Flow Ctrl: Automatic
In Preferences/Network set up a new service, ie “Verizon.”
QNC network, this is QNC.)
Password: vzw (For the QNC network, this is QNC.)
Connection: (Whatever you named your connection. When you click on
this field, all the connections available, including the one you just
made, should appear in a drop down type of menu.)
Connection type: PPP
Idle Timeout: Never
Query DNS: Yes IP Address: Automatic