michael neuhaus

I've been associated with JW's since 1971 and was baptized in 1977. I'm now
on reproof because of questioning certain teachings and the fact that they
changed. I have all the books. I even have Studies in the Scriptures,


new people can't look it up and compare. Half of all JW's today came in
within the last 10 or 15 years. How many old books do you think they will
have to compare "old light" with "new light"? I am now considering quitting.
If any JW out there (and you're not supposed to be here in the first place,
you bad person), who is reading these "apostate" comments wants just one
issue, ask this: Will the people from Sodom and Gomorrah be resurrected or
not? That has changed many times within the last 10 years. I've read
thousands of pages of WTS medical and scientific claims. They had no
business getting involved in those topics. The apostles in the first century
didn't, they preached the kingdom, period. If you don't believe me, do a
search in Google and see for yourself.

l perez

Michael, if you let the Sodom issue (which no absolute statements were made
about one way or another and which really has no bearing on your personal
faith) stumble you then you dont understand the nature of God's relationship
with mankind. The fact is that imperfect men had close relationships with
God throughout history and have made mistakes before. Mistakes and
corrections are no reason to be stumbled. How could a brother of over 30
years be stumbled so easily and, more importantly where your faith is
concerned ask yourself the same thing the Apostle Peter asked Christ at John
6:68. I truly hope you reconcile to the holy spirit Michael. Do not let
yourself be stumbled by human imperfection and adjustment.

your brother in truth, LP

~ windsong ~

## Another HONEST JW! :-) The elders don't like having to answer questions
on all the changed teachings of the WTS.

I even have Studies in the Scriptures,

## What we are post here is *ALL* from the WT's own literature. The rest is
from our own personal experience with the WTS org, the JWs we've known,
elders we've had dealing with and more. We have no need to lie or make up
stories as the JWs here accuse us of doing. The TRUTH alone tells it all.

Why do you think they leave it off the CD-ROM each year? So

## Yet (most of) the JWs here will deny that this old information is
removed or changed. Most of them will refuse to really look into the past
of this org. It's almost as though they "fear" the truth and have a need to
believe what they are currently told.

How many old books do you think they will

quitting.

## Good luck on whatever you decide to do. Since you've already started to
question their "questionable" teachings you are a THREAT to them. People
like us make other JWs open their eyes and come out of their "mind-control" mode.

## I was told they would be resurrected and then go into the "lake of fire"
or the second and permanent death. They told us that these cities were
nothing but homo***uals and perverts. I'm still waiting for the answer as
to how they reproduced if that was true. That was back in the late 60s!
But remember, it was OK for Lot's daughters to have *** with their father
and have out-of-wedlock babies! Jehovah saw THAT as righteous.
Unreal...... they never explained why that "******" was not a sin but
homo***uality was.

That has changed many times within the last 10 years. I've read

## Please look into their confused and ever changing rules on ****. What
kind of "confused" god could possibly be inspiring them? Not one JW I knew
could keep up with it - scream, don't scream, scream.... no wait, don't
scream.... scream....... don't scream....... and remember, according to
the old Victorianesque GB, a woman too terrified to scream was committing
fornication (before it was once again changed). A suggestion she may have
"enjoyed" the ****. Sickening!
--
Koketta & Carol..........
"Welcome to the Watchtower God's Organization. Here
is the list of correct personal decisions. You may deviate
from them if you wish, but you'll be branded as spiritually
weak, and if we don't like you we'll (disfellowship) you for not having
the right attitude. Enjoy your freedom." (Kirll)
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seeker

about one way or another and which really has no bearing on your personal
faith) stumble you then you dont understand the nature of God's relationship with mankind

for sometime have never come to have a real
understanding and relationship with Jehovah God
they missed the whole point, otherwise they would not be
stumbled by one thing or the other.
Our relationship is wirth Jehovah ,and The JW's are but a conduit to God ,
they admit the err sometimes .
We can never quit Jehovah once we have the truth ,
"they went out because they were not of our sort"
SEEKER

seeker

you are accusing without sidetracking??? :-)
SEEKER

~ windago ~

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No JW need quit Jehovah. What they can quit is the WTS. Nowhere in the
bible does it claim one must be a member of the Watchtower Publishing House
or it's salespeople known as the Jehovah's Witnesses to be saved. :-)
Jehovah IS NOT one and the same with the WTS/GB.
--
Koketta..........
"Welcome to the Watchtower God's Organization. Here
is the list of correct personal decisions. You may deviate
from them if you wish, but you'll be branded as spiritually
weak, and if we don't like you we'll do (disfellowship) you for not having
the right attitude. Enjoy your freedom." (Kirll)
~~~ }<(((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((Ô> ~~~ }<{{{{{(o>
~~~ }<{{{o>

~ windago ~

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I didn't post that. Please read the messages more carefully. All the
information you seek about the WTS is freely available on the internet as
you know - just go SEEK it out! :^) People have complained that
information and predictions they saw in the WTS literature are not showing
up on their CDs. I don't buy the WT CDs.

You can start here:
THE LIST OF AMAZING JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES' CLAIMS,
BELIEFS & PREDICTIONS........
Prepared by PB may be found at the following websites:-
http://www.freeminds.org/history/part1.htm
http://www1.tip.nl/~t661020/wtcitaten/part1.htm
http://localsonly.wilmington.net/jmalik/TheList.zip
http://www.concordance.com/watchtower.htm
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l perez

which organization do you belong to?

michael luinski

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Why does anyone have to belong to an "****nization?"
Read this:
"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in
horror. 'But what
shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A ferocious animal has
****ed the
blood of my relatives. I tell you to rid yourselves of this beast and you
ask me what
you shall put in its place?" - Voltaire -

Michael

l perez

Hebrews 10:25