gunny

No word of faith that you have ever spoken until the past few days have I
had an iota of disagreement with.

I honor, worship, applaud the "Anglican paradigm". I wish it for Rome.

But this "new" issue -- that you will hide/abort/postpone your real beliefs
in order to maintain the integrity of the communion -- this I do not fathom.

You are making an idol out of Anglican Order.

The Truth is Bigger.

highmusic

Gee, thanks for the "heart attack caption", Gunny. I thought I was
about to be trolled to death, before I saw who was posting! Look, I
know it's been very busy around here, and nobody can keep up with
everything -- but did you read what I said under the "Are We Willing
To Be A Splinter" thread? I'll clip just one 'graph:

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I think it's pretty obvious what my decision of conscience would be.
There is NO WAY I could identify myself with a "global Communion"
which formally discriminated against *** Christians. If ECUSA "held
together" as a "splinter", I would continue to identify with ECUSA,
insofar as I "identified" with any Christian denomination at all. And
I would find myself holding the same reservations toward Canterbury --
and the African and Asian Anglicans -- that I hold toward Rome, and
for the very same reasons.
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If that's "making an idol out of Anglican Order", I'll let you stand
as one of the "guilty" votes on a "hung jury"! The simple fact is that
I'm a centrist, and I try to be a natural conciliator, until it comes
to a matter of compromising fundamental conscience. I personally think
the African bishops are "way out of it" in their primitive theology of
human ***uality, which stubbornly refuses to factor what human beings
have learned from contemporary psychology and the biology of genetic
variation. But this does NOT mean that I would presume to impose
American and European cultural views on their very different
societies. THIS is why I keep angling to find some last chance for us
to "agree to disagree" about competing theologies, while still
remaining part of a global Church. I believe Dr. Rowan Williams,
historically a ***-affirming bishop and theologian himself, desires
the same outcome, and is working tirelessly to achieve it. But, push
come to shove, my "bottom line" position is the one I've just clipped
and posted for you above. Does that help?