rebel without a kenton

Merry Christmas aus.motorcycles, especially Paul Akbar.

Here's something to think about while you're riding your bikes.

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Christmas: Jesus in Islam
12/24/2003 - Religious - Article Ref: IC0312-2171
Number of comments: 54
Opinion Summary: Agree:29 *Disagree:5 *Neutral:20
By: IslamiCity
IslamiCity* -


Many Christians are unaware that the true spirit of reverence which
Muslims display towards Jesus and his mother Mary spring from the
fountainhead of their faith as prescribed in the Holy Quran. Most do not
know that a Muslim does not take the name of Jesus , without saying Eesa
alai-hiss-salaam i.e. (Jesus peace be upon him).

Many Christians do not know that in the Holy Quran Jesus is mentioned
by name twenty-five times.* For example:*

... We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with
the holy spirit. .. Quran 2:87

Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah gives thee glad tidings of a
Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in
honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those
nearest to Allah. Quran 3:45

... Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah
... Quran 4:171

*And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the
Law that had come before him .. Quran 5:46

And Zakariya and John, and Jesus and Elias: all in the ranks of the
righteous: Quran 6:85

The Quranic Titles of Jesus

Though Jesus is mentioned by name in twenty-five places in the Holy
Quran he is also addressed with respect as: "Ibne Maryam" - son of Mary;
as Masi (Heb) Messiah - translated as Christ; "Abd-ullah" servant of
Allah; "Rasul -Ullah" - Messenger of Allah.

He is spoken of as "the word of God", as "the spirit of God", as a "Sign
of God", and numerous other epithets of honor spread over fif****
different chapters. The Holy Quran honors this great Messenger of God,
and over the past four**** hundred years Muslims continue to hold Jesus
as a symbol of truth.

Christmas and 25th of December

Jesus is commonly considered to have been born on the 25th of December.
However, it is common knowledge among Christian scholars that he was not
born on this day. It is well known that the first Christian churches
held their festival in May, April, or January. Scholars of the first two
centuries AD even differ in which year he was born. Some believing that
he was born fully twenty years before the current accepted date. So how
was the 25th of December selected as the birthday of Jesus ?

Grolier's encyclopedia says: "Christmas is the feast of the birth of
Jesus Christ, celebrated on December 25 ... Despite the beliefs about
Christ that the birth stories expressed, the church did not observe a
festival for the celebration of the event until the 4th century....
since 274, under the emperor Aurelian, Rome had celebrated the feast of
the "Invincible Sun" on December 25. In the Eastern Church, January 6, a
day also associated with the winter solstice, was initially preferred.
In course of time, however, the West added the Eastern date as the Feast
of the Epiphany, and the East added the Western date of Christmas".*

So who else celebrated the 25th of December as the birth day of their
gods before it was agreed upon as the birth day of Jesus ? Well, there
are the people of India who rejoice, decorate their houses with
garlands, and give presents to their friends on this day. The people of
China also celebrate this day and close their shops. Buddha is believed
to have been born on this day. The great savior and god of the Persians,
Mithras, is also believed to have been born on the 25th of December long
before the coming of Jesus .

The Egyptians celebrated this day as the birth day of their great savior
Horus, the Egyptian god of light and the son of the "virgin mother" and
"queen of the heavens" Isis. Osiris, god of the dead and the underworld
in Egypt, the son of "the holy virgin", again was believed to have been
born on the 25th of December.

The Greeks celebrated the 25th of December as the birthday of Hercules,
the son of the supreme god of the Greeks, Zeus, through the mortal woman
Alcmene Bacchus, the god of wine and revelry among the Romans (known
among the Greeks as Dionysus) was also born on this day.

Adonis, revered as a "dying-and-rising god" among the Greeks,
miraculously was also born on the 25th of December. His worshipers held
him a yearly festival representing his death and resurrection, in
midsummer. The ceremonies of his birthday are recorded to have taken
place in the same cave in Bethlehem which is claimed to have been the
birth place of Jesus .

The Scandinavians celebrated the 25th of December as the birthday of
their god Freyr, the son of their supreme god of the heavens, Odin.

The Romans observed this day as the birthday of the god of the sun,
Natalis Solis Invicti ("Birthday of Sol the invincible"). There was
great rejoicing and all shops were closed. There was illumination and
public games. Presents were exchanged, and the slaves were indulged in
great liberties. These are the same Romans who would later preside over
the council of Nicea (325 CE) which lead to the official Christian
recognition of the "Trinity" as the "true" nature of God, and the "fact"
that Jesus was born on the 25th of December too.

In Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Gibbon says: "The Roman
Christians, ignorant of his (Christ's) birth, fixed the solemn festival
to the 25th of December, the Brumalia, or Winter Solstice, when the
Pagans annually celebrated the birth of Sol " vol. ii, p. 383.

mike.s

*snip bullshit*

threadplonk, userplonk.
Mike.S
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(ex CB250 K2,finis EL250, mucho grande EN 454 LTD!)
*SNIP*
Happy now?

deevo

<snip>
Oh dear, Paul Ackbar strikes again. I would have thought people would have
figured it out from the last time.

In a grim year that's two good laughs you've given me Paul.
--
Deevo

Geraldton
WA, The Nanny State (® Corks)
http://members.westnet.com.au/mckenzie

roger_pearse

[Islamic anti-Christian stuff snipped]

I prefer fiction to be interesting.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

smee

this makes more sense.

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stan deasy

I'd rather comtemplate the fleas of a thousand camels infesting your crotch,
and you with ten broken fingers, unable to scratch.

--
Stan Deasy
smoke if y'gottem

theo bekkers

We already knew all that.

Theo

john robertson

Geezus is a dead issue and because some person claims that this name is in


straight to the source of knowledge as some of us gentiles have .SEEK out an
Orthodox Rabbi and learn from his wisdom and the Torah .
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