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Man, A Free Agent (fasting prophet friend homo***uality religion)
The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to wash the
traces of Janaba (*****) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for
prayers while traces of water were still on it."
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64: Sahih Bukhari
Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he
consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with
him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran,
1990 :
A man can have ***ual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However he
should not penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and
damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her
life. This girl, however does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The
man will not be eligible to marry the girls sister.
[...]
It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would begin
menstruation at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father
marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven.
How it all began ( a long time ago in the isolated deserts of Arabia) :
Already, when Aisha (the daughter of Abu Bakr, Mohammad's closest friend and
unquestioning ally) was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started dreaming of a union
with her [Ref: SAHIH BUKHARI, 5:235] and he wasted no time in realizing his
dreams, inspite of the fact that object of his dreams was a mere child.Perhaps
you want to assume that it is "normal" for a 50+ year old man to dream of
marrying a 4-5 old child, and then ACTUALLY ask for her hand at 6?
Is it normal for an over***ed old man (Muhammad had over 9 wives and concubines)
to dream of a union with a 4-5 year old girl?
Muhammad ( SAW ) was basically over***ed, his ***ual relationship with Aisha is
a special case, which fits his strong need for a larger latitude to satisfy his
***ual urge, as is witnessed by:
"The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night
and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for
it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of
thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him
about nine wives only (not eleven)." [Bukhari.1:268]
When she was 6, Muhammad asked Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, for her hand. Abu Bakr
thought it was improper, because, as he said "I am your brother"; Muhammad
brushed aside Abu Bakr's reservation by saying that it was perfectly lawful for
him to marry Aisha [ Ref: SAHIH BUKHAR I7:18].
What happened to " there is no compulsion in matters of religion ?" Anyway what
compulsion did Muhhammad need being a prophet his word was law, he restricted
men to only four wives when he himself had more than four, that was a convenient
exemption for Muhhammad.
So, Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad, and 3 years later, i.e. when Aisha was 9,
the marriage was consumed. And Muhammad was 53 then [SAHIH BUKHARI
5:236,7:64,7:65,7:88] .
The 3 year waiting period probably had to do with the fact that at that time
Aisha had contracted some disease, whereby she, temporarily lost her hair. Aisha
was then socially and psychologically still a child as is evidenced by the fact
that she was still given to her toys, she was unaware of what was happening
around her, and her playmates behave as would the children at present times
[Sahih Bukhari 8:151,5:234].
Aisha became Muhammad's favourite wife. And the ***uality in the relationship
was predominant [ SAHIH BUKHARI .1.270, 3:36, 7:6, 3:148, 3:149, 3:150, 7:142,
IbnSa'd 1pg165 ]. Later, Aisha was to be called the "mother of believers".
If you are wandering, yes, the relationship was pedophilic.
When did the ***ual relations between Prophet Mohammad and his child bride
begin?
Unfortunately we do not have any video recordings of such events. Neither can we
expect that there would be any ******** statements regarding this. In any case
it is certain that she had NOT reached puberty when she moved into Muhammad's
house, which in itself, contrary to the prevailing social norms, is a tacit
implication that he may indulge in whatever fantasies he may have had when he
asked for Aisha's hand. And Muhammad did have fantasies.
Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151:
Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet,
and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to
enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, BUT the Prophet would
call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar
images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a
little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143,
Vol.13)
It is, however, very unlikely that Muhammad would have waited for the onset of
the menses; or at most it could have been just after the 1st drops. The evidence
is necessarily indirect.
# His strong desire to "graze of the (tree) of which nothing has been eaten
before", as his other wives had not been virgins.
# Menses or fasting do not reduce Muhammad's desire and potency for ***. His
nightly rounds to his wives(lastly 12-13) did require more than average potency.
# New additions to his harem lead to intensive ***ual activity, e.g. arrival of
Maria lead to increased, initial spurt of ***ual activity to the neglect of
others .
# The intervals between prayers are used for quick stands "I used to wash the
traces of Janaba (*****) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for
prayers while traces of water were still on it."
# Other wives try to please Muhammad by sacrificing their turns in favor of
Aisha.
# During his last fatal illness he cries: "Where will I be tomorrow? Where will
I be tomorrow?", seeking Aisha's turn.
Prophet Say: Marry Young Virgins
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you
married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a
liking for the young virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's
Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her
and she with you?'
Silent Children :
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 67:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after
consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her
permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her
permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."
Where *** is akin to a crime, silence is admission of your guilt. What a
corruption of "fitrah" ( human nature).
What religion condones the destruction of childhood? What are we who daily avow
our undying love for Allah to do against a system that ruthlessly oppresses its
youngest and brightest ?
What was Aisha's age? I have heard other figures ... (A question also known
as: How many of your own sources will you deny ? )
All the relevant sources (Bukhari, Ibn Hisham, Tabari, Ibn al-Athir, Ibn Sa'd,
Ibn Hanbal, etc.) maintain that Aisha was bethroted to Mohammed when she was 6,
and the marraige was consummated 3 years later.
'Mahommad - The Word of Allah' written by Anne-Marie Delcambre. (Anne-Marie
Delcambre has a doctorate in 'Islamology', and taught Islamic Civilisation at
the Saint Joseph University of Beyrouth in Lebanon). On page 69, it says that he
was married to her when she was 9 years old.
Dates commonly accepted by scholars: Birth Muhammad(570), birth Aisha(614 or
615). Bethrothal(620 or 621), Consummation of marriage(623 or 624). In
particular the "consummation" of marriage is said to have taken place after the
hidjra in Shawwal 1 or 2. Between 621 and 623 Asiha is said to have contracted a
disease whereby she temporarily lost her hair. (Ref 1)
She could not have been more than 10 years when she went to live in Muhammad's
house. The fact that she took her toys with her to her new home indicates that
she was psychologically and socially still a child. And the fact that she was
allowed to play with DOLLS indicates that she had NOT reached puberty by this
time. ("The playing with the dolls and similar images was(is) forbidden, but it
was allowed for Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached
the age of puberty."Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13). Besides, there is also
Aisha's own statement which implies that she had NOT reached puberty when she
moved into Muhammad's house[Sahih Bukhari 7.163]. I am sure she would have been
able to recount accurately as to when and where she got her first menses. Most
girls do remember such events rather accurately. (Refs 2)
What is "sick" is that Muhammad had started to dream of a union with Aisha
already when she was 4-5 years old: "You were shown to me twice (in my dream)
before I married you...(and) I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it
must happen." He was to use a similar tactic when he wanted to marry his step
son's wife. A tactic which Aisha later came to understand as fraud, as in:
"Aisha said: O Allah's Apostle! I do not see, but, that your Lord hurries in
pleasing you." (Refs 2)
Muhammad wasted no time in realizing what he had been dreaming. Already when
Aisha was 6 "The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr
said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's
religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." Here it does
not seem that Abu Bakr consented to the marriage wholeheartedly.
REFERENCES (1) Les femmes du Prophete Prof.Magali Morsi, Professor of History,
University of Muhammed V, Rabat, Morocco.
(2) Shahih Bukhari: [1.229] [1.230] [1.231] [1.232] [1.233] [1.258] [1.263]
[1.267] [1.270] [1.294] [1.296] [1.298] [1.299] [3.148] [3.149] [3.150] [3.853]
[4.736] [5.235] [5.236] [5.731] [7.14] [7.15] [7.57] [7.48] [7.57] [7.64] [7.65]
[7.86] [7.88] [7.90] [7.144] [7.163] [8.151] [9.139] [9.140]
* "And if a woman is ***ually mature I see nothing wrong with her marriage in
general, with a man of any age... "- A muslim.
For those Muslims who approve of the above statement ( and hold similar views ):
Would you let your daughters go through this ?
" Two iraqi men, aged 28 amd 34, who live in lincoln, nebraska, married two
iraqi girls, aged 13 and 14, in a private Islamic ceremony attended by family
and friends. The two men have been arrested, charged with the ***ual assault of
a child and could be sentenced to 50 years of prison because the marriage age in
nebraska is at least 17 years of age. Their attorney argued that the men didn't
know about the law and that they were merely following their religious custom of
courtship and marriage. Do they really do such things in today's Iraq? " - Abdul
Abdi
Pedophile ?
What are the essential features of pedophilia.?
Professors of psychiatry, Harold I.Kaplan MD and Benjamin J.Sadock MD. of New
York University Medical School states the essential features to diagnose
pedophilia are:
1.Identification with and narcissistic investment in immature ***ual objects.
Muhammad's infatuation and relationship with Aisha fits this criterion. And
Mohammad was vain too - he liked to use perfume and dye his hair (even as an old
man).
2. Control, domination and seduction of children.
A slight recalcitrance on the part of his wives was met by intolerant threats
like: "if he (Muhammad) divorce you, (Allah) will give him in your place wives
better than you, submissive, faithful, obedient, penitent, adorers, fasters,
widows and virgins." [K 66.5]
3. ***ual activity with children is preferential and occur repeatedly.
Aisha was ever present, right up to his last fatal breath and he preferred
spending his nights with her. Aisha became Muhammad's favorites wife. And the
***uality in the relationship was predominant. [Sahih Bukhari
1.270,3:36,7:6,3:148,3:149,3:150,7:142,IbnSa'd 1pg165]
Is menses necessary indicator of ***ual maturity ?
***ual maturity is NOT PURELY RELATED TO MENSES as for some peculiar reasons
many Muslims have tried to say.
In the first place having or not having menses is not the criterion for ***ual
maturity, and thus of pedophilic behaviour. We have cases here, of abducted
girls, 12, 13, 14, well past their mens, and yet preferred by pedophiles as
***ual objects.
Besides when Aisha was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started dreaming of a union
with her [Sahih Bukhari 5:235]- I am sure Ayesha was not menstruating then . Or
do Arab girls menstruate at the age of 4-5 ?
Chapter Al-Imran
3:104 Let there arise out of you a Nation of people inviting to all that is
good (Islam), enjoying Al-Ma'ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism & all that Islam
orders one to do) and forbidding Al-Munkar (Polytheism & all that Islam has
forbiden), And it is they who are the successful.
3:105 And be not as those who divided and differed after the clear proofs
had come to them.(Allowing homo***uality & all kind of immoralities). It is
they for whom there is an awful torment.
3:106 On the Day (Djugement Day) when some faces will become white and some
faces will become black; as for those whose faces will become black (To them
will be said):"Did you reject Faith after accepting it? Then taste the
torment (in Hell) for rejecting it.
3:107 And for those whose faces will become white, they will be in Allah's
Mercy (Paradise), therein they shall dwell forever.
3:108 These are the verses of Allah; We recite them to you (O Muhammad) in
truth, and Allah wills no injustice to Al-Alamin (Mankind & Jinn world).
***** Oderint dum metuant! *****
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