omar sherif

do u guys acutually believe this BS, wonder what Quraan u been reading...??
must have taken u a while to come up with this crap, its good, but close to
be believeable. u guys been watching too much tv and it rotted your brains.
i pitty ur racist asses..!!!

%name%

check this out before judging in things you are ignorant of.
http://www.harunyahya.com/m_video.php

Regards,

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rodrian

It claims: "Islam: The Light Illuminating the World...
When Europe was still in the Dark Ages, Muslims were pioneers
of science. And not only science, but also philosophy, art,
architecture, urban welfare and even standards of hygiene....
Watch about the history of Islam; how it enlightened the world
in terms of faith, morality and civilization. Learn about the
tolerance, humaneness and rationality of Islam."

Sir, "tolerance" from Muslims has meant (for 900 years) that
Jews and Christians would not be butchered if they paid
a tax for the privilege of not being butchered. This is
not my notion of tolerance. This explains why slavery has
been one of the major industries in Islamic countries TO
THIS DAY.

And, if you look at the Muslim conquest... it is the sad
history of primitive barbarians enslaving higher civilizations:
All the men of science that peopled the Muslim golden age
were non-Arabs converted by the sword. This is hardly an
example of Islam being the guiding light you claim it to be.
We will never know what these men and those Muslims killed
because they would not "SUBMIT" would have otherwise produced,
but human history if replete with instances of barbarians
butchering the hope of humanity and snuffing out the light
that might have really illuminated us & made us better.

Rather look at today's Islamic nations: Their barbarity,
brutality and mountains of human rights abuses: THAT is
truly the product of Islam: Barren, frozen human cultures
of suffering, disease and poverty, despotism from military
and theological dictators... peoples who cannot grasp the
simple fact that democracy (the notion that if people have
a say on how their lives are run... it's more likely their
lives will be run more for their own benefit than for any-
body else's benefit), that democracy is the best form of
government. The nations under Islamic influence are today
the cesspool of a human species otherwise inching its way
slowly up the ladder of civilization.

Sir, Islam is like Nazism and dedicated to the enslavement
of mankind. And it's as foolish to discuss this matter with
Muslims as it is to discuss the merits of Nazism with Nazis.
I can only pity those who have and will be victimized by it.
And Nazism is dead: I mean Islam.

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com

rodrian

"%NAME%" <mbakrika@mems.uwaterloo.ca> wrote in message news:<bf1ljf$tdl$1@tabloid.uwaterloo.ca>...

It claims: "Islam: The Light Illuminating the World...
When Europe was still in the Dark Ages, Muslims were pioneers
of science. And not only science, but also philosophy, art,
architecture, urban welfare and even standards of hygiene....
Watch about the history of Islam; how it enlightened the world
in terms of faith, morality and civilization. Learn about the
tolerance, humaneness and rationality of Islam."

Sir, "tolerance" from Muslims has meant (for 900 years) that
Jews and Christians would not be butchered if they paid
a tax for the privilege of not being butchered. This is
not my notion of tolerance. This explains why slavery has
been one of the major industries in Islamic countries TO
THIS DAY.

And, if you look at the Muslim conquest... it is the sad
history of primitive barbarians enslaving higher civilizations:
All the men of science that peopled the Muslim golden age
were non-Arabs converted by the sword. This is hardly an
example of Islam being the guiding light you claim it to be.
We will never know what these men and those Muslims killed
because they would not "SUBMIT" would have otherwise produced,
but human history if replete with instances of barbarians
butchering the hope of humanity and snuffing out the light
that might have really illuminated us & made us better.

Rather look at today's Islamic nations: Their barbarity,
brutality and mountains of human rights abuses: THAT is
truly the product of Islam: Barren, frozen human cultures
of suffering, disease and poverty, despotism from military
and theological dictators... peoples who cannot grasp the
simple fact that democracy (the notion that if people have
a say on how their lives are run... it's more likely their
lives will be run more for their own benefit than for any-
body else's benefit), that democracy is the best form of
government. The nations under Islamic influence are today
the cesspool of a human species otherwise inching its way
slowly up the ladder of civilization.

Sir, Islam is like Nazism and dedicated to the enslavement
of mankind. And it's as foolish to discuss this matter with
Muslims as it is to discuss the merits of Nazism with Nazis.
I can only pity those who have and will be victimized by it.
And Nazism is dead: I mean Islam.

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com re:

%name%

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This not true because when Islam came the slavery was already there. On the
contrary, Islam has promoted leting them free as a preferable action. If you
have some dictators pointed by USA and the old occupations in these
countries this doesn't mean that all people have the same mintality.

Doesn't make any sence. The bigest muslim's population is Indonesia which no
single sword has steped on its land.

Oh yeah and that's what the inhabitants in the middle ages in europe were
doing when Spain was living its golden age under the Islamic rule. Don't contradict yourself.


First of all there is absolutely no country that you can call a
representitive of a muslim country and that is due to many political reasons
you know and i know.

You need to be updated about what's going on in the world man. Let me tell
either you like it or not that Islam is the fastes growing religon in the
world. Almsot over 20000 americans revert to Islam every year and i believe
sir that ther is no sword involve.

mustafa naqib

Don't waste your time replying to idiots, racists and HATERS like this
vulgar animal molester "Rodrian". A horse ****er cannot teach us morality
nor civilization.

Screw haters,

Mustafa

constant22003

That's the biggest LIE. Muslims in Indonesia have done untold number of
violences towards Non-Muslims ranging from burning their properties,
***ually harashing their women and killing them in the name of Allah.
At the same time, different groups of Muslims approached the victims
and offered protection to show that Muslims were peaceful. So they had
parties on looting, destroying and mass-conversion

First, they hunted down Non-Muslims under the pretext of eliminating
Communists. Then, they shifted their attacks on Xtians' Churches and
Buddhists' Temples. Later, they invaded Maluku, where it is
largely populated by Xtians. Last, they bomb blasted Bali, where it is
largely populated by Foreigners and Hindus.

kshatriyaas

Evil totalitarian hate mongering ideology of Islam ****s and the
evidence is available at http://www.faithfreedom.org

Singha

kshatriyaas

The world hates the arab bastards for foisting on our beautiful world
the shitty, evil, satanic and hatemongering ideology called Islam.

Singha

rodrian

What kind of a defense is this?!?! "Murder and **** was
already there so we share no guilt if we continued it?!?!?"
Just tell me why there's still slavery in some Muslim
countries today... and has been for the past 900 years
(takes'em a long time to stop it, is that it?).

Sir, I'm sure Islam promotes somewhere the liberation
of Islamic slaves. But the history of Islamic slave traders
is the history of slave trading in Africa.


Sir, read a little Islamic history: The entirety of
the business of selling African slaves in the American
slave trade was carried out by Muslims selling non-Muslim
Africans to the European slavers (this is why there are
so few Muslim traditions among African-American slaves).
There is slavery in many Muslim nations today, openly
or because everybody looks the other way. Visit the coastal
nations which sold the American slaves to the slave ships:
There are all Muslims (and their business was to "hunt"
and capture non-Muslim Africans to sell to the slavers.
Those African nations are today trying to kiss-uo to
African Americans by apologying for selling their asses
in the first place.

Most of the Indonesians became Muslim in the 1800s,
after a number of Islamic preachers took advantage
of the terror created by the volcanic disaster in
Krakatoa: It is mostly an exception to the usual
human violence that's associated with the Islamic conquest
but an illustration of its sinister oppotunism. But
even this does not mean it was all done peacefully even there.

Sir, both the European and Arab cultures inherited all
their advances from previous civilizations. The Europeans
dark ages were a catastrophe from which Europe began to
recover in Italy, recovery spreading out from there. THe point
you should be understanding is how come such a devastated
Europe recovered and then surpassed all expectation... while
the Islamic world, which had stolen and ****d the Hindu
and Mesopotamian (etc.) glories/treasures of civilization did
nothing with it but sink back into abismal savagery/brutality
and pre-civilization tribalism... which is the Arab/Islamic
so-called "civilization" everywhere to this day. Yes: The
Indonesian Muslims are always called "moderate" and their
practice of Islam is called "loose and lite" BUT SO WAS that
of the first couple of generations of Arabic Islam until
the imams finally achieved a proper stranglehold. You can see
every day evidence everywhere throughout the Ismalic Asia
"new conquest" of those people descending into the Islamic
dark ages (which are always the result of Islamic conquest).


You know something: Islam is such a barbarous tyranny
that few human beings in a position to thwart it have
passed up the opportunity to do so (with the result that
there have been very few true "Islamic republics" across
time) and mostly secularized tyrannies by Islamic dictators.

But there is one now in Iran. Go and ask the Iranians
how they like it. I will predict this: There will be a
revolution in Iran as bloody as the French Revolution
and you will see as many Imams hanging from lamp posts
as priests in Paris. And then Iran will be as pathologically
secular as France is to this day.

Please do a little real-world research (but glance
at the Encyclopeadia Britannica, for God's sakes), and
don't just trust the blitherings of your local imam
(what was he, a shoe-shine boy before becoming your Imam?).
Christianity is the fastest-growing religion on earth
at this writing--for whatever reasons. ANd it's not that
I advance Christianity as something absolutely/perfectly good
but that I believe Christianity's "Love thy enemy and
kill him if you have to" is much preferrable to Islam's
"Hate thy enemy and kill him whenever and whereever you can."
Read the Bible and the Koran for the specific sources.

Yes: Mostly in prisons! That's the sort of people who are
attracted to the militant/uncompromision message of Islam.
For Heavens' Sake, man, don't you read anything other
than the bloody Koran!?

But this does not even begin to compare to the millions
of Americans who every day find themselves "reborn" as
Christians. Nor does it begin to match the Christianization
going on in South America, Africa and Asia (now that Islam
no longer has the military muscle to force people to
SUBMIT (Islam) to it. I do not advocate Christianity or
any other superstition, but if people are going to be
religious... there are certainly better religions than
Islam (which is really only a military code mascarading
as a religion). Try Christianity, or Bhuddism.

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
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"Omar Sherif" <me@home.com> wrote in message news:<l7uMa.1474$3h3.3174@rwcrnsc53>...

Sir, I can only speak for my own ass. But my ass is
hardly a racist, since its ***ual partner is my horse
(and they have a very stubborn mule for a descendant).
So there!

As for your ignorance of the Koran and other Muslim
writings and traditions (really just only the barbaric
traditions of nomadic Arab tribal warfare)... there are
innumerable ways in which you could educate yourself:
There are many English translations of the Koran on the
Internet which a simple search will find. Or you could
follow some of these links, if you're really interested
in uncovering a true sinister/evil world conspiracy that
has already proven itself to have butchered many more
millions of innocent victims than ALL THE OTHER HOLOCAUSTS
the world has even known put together--This fact is do***ented
NOT merely by non-Muslim historians but by Muslim historians
themselves who did not grasp the repugnance of what they were
do***enting... it's as if Nazi historians were do***enting the
death camps and finding it all a marvelous/grand achievement!

Every aspect of Islam reflects its militant nature and history.
Here are a few quotes from easily assessable texts in Usenet
(make sure you unclude the complete URL in your browser's search):

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3BBFE174.A653EC77%40aol.com&output=gplain

If not the most authoritative, at least the most renowned
historian of the 20th Century, Will Durant's essay on "The
Moslem Conquest" (page 459 of the "Our Oriental Heritage"
volume in his massive "Story of Civilization) should suffice
to hint at the scale of the human catastrophe that Islam has
been to Planet Earth. --Other Usenet quotes of interest here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8hkg1u%245k7%241%40nnrp1.deja.com&output=gplain

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8v7nb8%24nas%241%40nnrp1.deja.com&output=gplain

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=932877830.1804%40www.remarq.com&output=gplain

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=933668917.13366%40www.remarq.com&output=gplain

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Bharat-2232.990903%40news.mantra.com&output=gplain

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=5785c0f4.0110022140.7a478f61%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=d0197aa3.0110031244.54eb5d50%40posting.google.com&output=gplain

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8ljfag%244um%241%40gnamma.connect.com.au&output=gplain

Kindly,

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
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