mark and bev tindall

careless judgment.

Really?

"Mark Bassett" rewrote and eliminated naughty words from:


***************
I thought pentes shouted "hallelujah!" every time
you PISS or SHIT! How can it be "spiritual" otherwise????
**************

The bible uses the SAME words!!! ........ "But Rabshakeh said, Hath my
master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not
sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may EAT their own DUNG,
and DRINK their own PISS with you?" (Isaiah 36:12 KJV)

YOU HAVE CENSORED THE BIBLE!!!!!

Your prudishness is not Christian but a man made rule from your enslavement
to fundamentalism. The Good News (Gospel) is that God sets you free! You
are a HYPOCRITE!

Jesus said in Matthew 5:42, "Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that
would borrow of thee turn not thou away." I asked for your house and car and
to borrow your most prized possession. You refused to follow Jesus' command
in the bible!!!! You are a HYPOCRITE!

Matthew 23:15 "How terrible for you, teachers of the Law and Pharisees! You
HYPOCRITES! You sail the seas and cross whole countries to win one convert;
and when you succeed you make him twice as fit for hell as you yourselves
are!"

Mark Basett Hound, Greet me with a KISS just like bible says in Romans
6:16; 1Corinthians 16:20; 2 Corinthians13:12; I Thessalonians 5:26; 1 Peter
5:14.

You do greet ALL Christians with a kiss, don't you??? You do believe that
ALL the bible should be obeyed??? Those are a lot of scriptures to
ignore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the robert taylors

Back again dckelvie with your silly accusations........you never get
finished spouting off that crazed babbling! Speaking incoherently, not
speaking truth with your nonsense about the Apostolic Christian.
Oneness Christians believe they should have a
personal relationship with God, through His Son, Jesus
Christ. It is the ability to speak to God as a child speaks to his
father, without intimidation, without fear, with simple and boundless
love.
Thank you for those words.....

Strange noises....I suppose the New Testament Church Believers, praying
in the Spirit were babbling? Would you rip those pages from the
Scripture.....you may as well you do not believe them!
Apostolic Christians lead our families in prayer and dedication without
Speaking in tongues. We advocate public, private and family devotional
prayers. Studying the Word of God and forever seeking to bring ourselves
and families to a closer relationship the the Lord Jesus Christ. Numerous
times, praying in tongues is never heard. What is the problem with you
Biblical skeptics that tend to discredit what you do not understand
Spiritually?
We teach what the Bible says, that the Lord will supply or needs, not all
the times our wants. Ever seeking first the Kingdom of God and His
Righteousness. He will supply! He still is Jehovah Jireh!!!! Do you
deny that, dckelvie?

No my friend, to the contrary, Apostolic Oneness Christian have it all
together. We refuse to believe the foolishness of man and the doctrines
of the church fathers of Rome........wake up man and stop you false
accusations. You evidently do not know what you are talking about or have
a warped spiritually barren heart!


--
Isaiah 45:18
For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself
that formed the earth and made it; hath established it, he created
it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and
there is none else.
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the
commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the
Father?

mark bassett

You say "the emphasis seems to be on the gifts of the Spirit... etc.". That
is what I am addressing. It is not. this is a mischaracterization of the
UPCI, and many other Apostolic Pentecostals.

mark and bev tindall

..... whatever! ....

The fundamentalist / pente claim that the bible is infallible or inerrant is
religious imperialism and religious bigotry. It is a control mechanism used
by fear mongering fundamentalists and pentes who do not acknowledge any
other type of Christian.

There is freedom in Christ! (Galatians 5:1) The Good News (Gospel) is that
God has set you free! God's grace and love are free and without any
requirement whatsoever!

Fundamentalism and pentecostalism are ******* and slavery to rules and
regulations and man made doctrines.

Isaiah 29:13 "These people claim to worship me, but their words are
meaningless, and their hearts somewhere else. Their religion is nothing but
human rules and traditions, which they have simply memorised."

Matthew 23:15 "How terrible for you, teachers of the Law and Pharisees! You
hypocrites! You sail the seas and cross whole countries to win one convert;
and when you succeed you make him twice as fit for hell as you yourselves
are!"

peter davidson

Many things have been held necessary for salvation: cir***cision, baptism,
tithing, Sunday observance, having an early 'quiet time', witnessing five
times a day, the gabbling that some think is tongues; and many other things,
implicit as well as ********. There is only one way to tell a Christian, and
that is by fruits. The fruits include love, gladness, patience, usefulness,
humility, generosity, trustworthiness, readiness to f****ve, and
self-control. These are what is required for salvation.

Peter

Hello Robert,
Your post read:

And you know as well as I do that it is only a few of the most
"liberal" Baptists, the abherant groups that do so. You know, the
ones that accept homo***ual marriages, homo***ual pastors, women
pastors, and the like.

Not the mainline Baptists.

Do you want me to accept all of the "strange" and "odd" pentecostal
groups as being the "norm" too? If you wish, we can both play that
game and I can claim that "you pentecostals" do all kinds of wierd,
fake, and dishonest things, from sending out prayer cloths for money,
from doing all sorts of other dishonest money schemes, and such.
Making monkey sounds, pig sounds, cow sounds in the name of the Holy
Spirit, calling it "biblical." Stuff like that.

If you want to accept the strange and abherrant groups as part of our
own groups, I suppose we "could" play that game. . .but it would be
dishonest, as your statement above is dishonest.


And many of them advocate homo***ual leadership in their groups,
homo***uality as "normal" behavior, and women pastors.

And they remain Godless sinners.

Gotta git. Sunday School starts soon. I can't miss it. My wife and
I teach the little ones this summer. . .

You posted in alt.religion.christian.pentecostal :


But Mark, whenever we non-pentecostals speak to you pentecostals,
those seem to be the only things you want to talk about!

And in the services I have visited, great emphasis and large amounts
of time were spent on them.

No Mark, I don't think it is any mischaracterization of you guys at
all.

mark and bev tindall

Good on them! Baptists who use their God given brains!


Oooohhh women pastors!!! Many Christians hae women pastos. What's wrong
with them? Why be ***ist AND homophobic?

Get out and understand the real world apart from your little sanctuary built
to protect ***ist and homophobic fundamentalists.

"Any man may be a heretic in the truth; and if he believes things only
because his pastor says so, or the Assembly so determines, without knowing
other reason, though his belief be true, yet the very truth he holds becomes
his heresy. There is not any burden that some would gladlier post off to
another, than the charge and care of their religion."
- John Milton, "Areopagitica" (1644)

mark and bev tindall

As an ex-pentecostal I think your portrayal is very accurate.

You posted in alt.religion.christian.pentecostal :


Not good on them! Those who accept the above things do not use their
God given _scripture,_ _His_ _Word._

Instead they use only human "logic" (which isn't really that logical
at all), and their emotions to accept things that God has condemned.

I'm sorry if you don't know the difference.


I am neither. I am a practicing scriptural Christian.


That shows your level of integrity, level of spirituality, and level
of honesty. You showed a whole lot in one word! All of it pitifully bad.

Let's see now. I believe the Bible, therefore I must be ***ist and
homophobic. . .is that it?

No, I am just a Christian.

Sorry about you.

BTW, I just finished 6 weeks of teaching 8th graders who failed at
regular junior high school, failed Math at the alternative school, to
pass standard 8th grade Math in a public school. The kids I taught
lived in alcoholic homes, druggy homes, and worse.

I must live in a protected invironment, huh?

BTW, the 39 kids who stuck it out all know Math through the 8th grade
level now. . .They are great kids!

But I must live in a protected environment.

What are _you_ doing with your summer?


Since my beliefs don't come from my pastor, but instead come from the
Bible, Milton's words don't apply.

Matthew 16:24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone wishes to
come after Me, he must deny himself, and take
up his cross and follow Me.
25 "For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever
loses his life for My sake will find it.
26 "For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and
forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in
exchange for his soul?
-Jesus Christ,- about AD 33

Christian