jeff jacobsen

A few days ago I posted a (hopefully) humorous post about BTs having taken
over Co$. But now that I think about it, why couldn't that happen? There
isn't any Hubbard Tech for preventing BTs from coming into a body, is there?
Wasn't it Hubbard's basic assumption (inconsistently forgotten about in some
NOTs, however) that the BTs are there when you're born, and there's a finite
number? And I also assume that LRH never really explained too much about
what happens to BTs once they "blow."
So, let's theorize that BTs CAN come back into a body after they've been
audited out of somebody. And let's theorize that the BTs see each other,
can converse, and share experiences. So they get to talking and realize
that hey, Scientology keeps kicking people out of bodies on Teegeack! But
the BTs LIKE being in those bodies! So, they hatch a plan and infest the
bodies of DM, Rinder, Mithoff, Emory, et al, and start running Co$. Why
couldn't this be? I don't think it's inconsistent with Co$ teachings in any
way.
And in fact, there is evidence that this may have happened! Consider
how much squirreling of the tech goes on in Scientology's leadership!

http://www.lisamcpherson.org

jim beebe

Yes, but aren't the Body Thetans Clear and OT? They've been audited on OT
materials so according to 'Source'...they should be at total cause.

Can anyone contact David Mayo for an expert opinion on this vital issue?

Jim B

thomasjbest

Uhhhh.... Jeff, it's even worse than you think. There are certainly
BTs who 'think' they're electrons, wires, keyboards, monitors,
motherboards and video/audio cards. Of course, they've been implanted
with these delusions some trillions of years ago. Stop laughing,
damn you! This is *science*!


tam

"Of the few innocent pleasures left....
the jamming of commonsense down the throats
of fools is perhaps the keenest."
Thomas Huxley

roger gonnet

"Jim Beebe" <jbeebe@centurytel.net> a écrit dans le message de
news:3f90b129@news2.lightlink.com...

excellent argument.

Latrely, I added another to the BT theory: if a moron has a genius BT, and
gets rid of it, he becomes back a moron -- or is no longer influenced by
some genial ideas from that BT.

Even for engrams, it runs the same: admit an engram's content is better
adapted to the situation; by instance, a runner has the engram "run faster",
and so, he wins his competitions. If he gets rid of that one, what will
happen?


roger

jb

Well, it would certainly explain people like Schwarz, Penday, Dorian, "truth
seeker", et al., would it not? Only intelligent/rational BTs would be able
to understand the "Oatee" materials, soooo ZZZIP, SSSwoosh - out they'd go!
If most people had a plethora of "intelligent" BTs, but some unlucky souls
only had the "Jerry Lewis" type left, WELL! What's left is what you see in
the afore-mentioned poor schmcks that didn't know any better than to have
undertaken such a foolish project!

'Course, they could have Oateed ~themselves~ out of existance, too...hmm -
Then you'd have deluded ~BTs~ running the 'ol meat.

How perfectly ironic...

Just a thought. Jack

In <vp0vi1av7ob92a@corp.supernews.com>, "Jeff Jacobsen"

Sound like a possibility to me.

Seeing how L'il Davey (ya sounds like a cupcake bakery) is obviously a
couple of BTs short of a cluster, he'd get the number one spot on my
list of cultists mostly likely to become possessed by a rogue BT.

phil scott

You are accurate on all points so far....Hubbards solution was for you to
pay $100,000 or so to get rid of them at his cultie thingie. Hubbub
never said overtly but many of the security check and other questions and
some processes indicate that during *** a person can get BT's from others,
or 'copy' them.

That of course all has to be handled at $500 an hour in one of the cults
orgs.

So yes indeedie BT's could take over an org and ruin it entirely.

The way you would determine this is to look at the orgs stats...if the org
is growing the BT's are loosing...if the org is shrining the BT's are
winnng...

For the last 10 years the BT's have been winning (aided by the ARSCC) at
virtually all of the scientology borgs...the BT's have been winning for the
last 3 years at scientology's Fort Homicide and on the Free Asbestos.

A new process must be developed to get rid of BT's that get between members
of an organization... that is clear. I have actually developed that
process and reported on the session in ACT several times over the last 10
years.

(now look...I hate to admit this on ARS...bit it actually *worked...the
young lady was a basket case in her local orgs and missions for years before
I ad-libbed this approach with her over the phone...ot was a hard core
traumatic session but ended spectacularly.... she has done fantastically
well in life ever since (and gently avoids the scn orgs now).


The top dog does.

I think its much less specific...but ACW http://www.knowledgism.org (?) thinks
there is such interaciton..called 'spiritual team mates'... Babtists would
call them angels or demons etc. (over 80% of US citizens believe in angels)
and I personally think such exist in the universe...but I dont hold with
Elrongs BT thang to the limits he thought was valid....we know there are
nmemes for instance...and we know that that each nerve junture (ganlia) in
the body there is in effect a micro brain function...thats from the latest
research in neurology. Hubbub called those BT's (spirits of dead space
aliens)...that was one aspect of what finally drove him over the edge.

The cults USGO and some of its OSA slime think thats actually the case and
atempts to ruin its enemies by sending BT's after them (they also
used voodoo dolls and pin cushions in the 70's as shown to me by more than
two people and that has been mentioned on several affidavits posted to
http://www.xenu.net


You are exactly correct on all aspects of your assumptions, you have just
failed to notice that the BT's have already taken over....when you see DM
running hiding drills under cars like Capt Bill (from marcabs) you will
know the process was complete.

exactly.


Phil Scott