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1 2nd May 23:34
doubledrooks2003
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Default Why did L. Ron Hubbard want you & me to follow him and his teachings? - 10/19/03 (beliefs religion)



Why did L. Ron Hubbard want you & me to follow him and his teachings?


L. Ron Hubbard never followed anybody, so why did he feel we
should follow him? Anything he ever did, any of us could do also.
He started a religion, right? My advise is, if you want, start your
own religion.


Truth Seeker
"A man must purify himself, no man can purify another"

================================================== ===

If you want to know what Scientology doesn't want you
to know, take a look these posts that I've put up earlier on
this newsgroup. (That's if the Church of "Suppress Free Speech"
hasn't illegally cancelled them)

"How to tell a real critic of Scientology from a phony one"
"How you know you've just read phony criticism created by Scientology"
"Scientology's Plan to Stop Critics & Criticism on this newsgroup"
"The key to how Scientology is handling this newsgroup"
"Why you should stay away from Scientology"
"The FAQ for Alt.Religion.Scientology"
"Names Scientology is Posting by on this newsgroup"
"Tactics OSA uses to stop critics on this newsgroup"
"The Magical Transformation of Church Member into Critic"
"How Scientology is playing both sides of the coin"
"Scientology's Decoy System"
"The 3 beliefs Scientology wants the world to believe"
"Some different Ways to "Handle" Scientology"
"How Scientology Traps New Members"
"Scientology's Trick to keep people from REAL criticism"
"Weaknesses of the Church of Scientology"
"How Scientology creates identity confusion"
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2 4th May 15:31
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Default Why did L. Ron Hubbard want you & me to follow him and his teachings? - 10/19/03 (christian)



Refusing a viewpoint because it isn't christian?
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3 4th May 15:32
doubledrooks2003
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Default Why did L. Ron Hubbard want you & me to follow him and his teachings? - 10/19/03 (beliefs religion)


Why did L. Ron Hubbard want you & me to follow him and his teachings?


L. Ron Hubbard never followed anybody, so why did he feel we
should follow him? Anything he ever did, any of us could do also.
He started a religion, right? My advise is, if you want, start your
own religion.

Truth Seeker
"A man must purify himself, no man can purify another"

================================================== ===

If you want to know what Scientology doesn't want you
to know, take a look these posts that I've put up earlier on
this newsgroup. (That's if the Church of "Suppress Free Speech"
hasn't illegally cancelled them)

"How to tell a real critic of Scientology from a phony one"
"How you know you've just read phony criticism created by Scientology"
"Scientology's Plan to Stop Critics & Criticism on this newsgroup"
"The key to how Scientology is handling this newsgroup"
"Why you should stay away from Scientology"
"The FAQ for Alt.Religion.Scientology"
"Names Scientology is Posting by on this newsgroup"
"Tactics OSA uses to stop critics on this newsgroup"
"The Magical Transformation of Church Member into Critic"
"How Scientology is playing both sides of the coin"
"Scientology's Decoy System"
"The 3 beliefs Scientology wants the world to believe"
"Some different Ways to "Handle" Scientology"
"How Scientology Traps New Members"
"Scientology's Trick to keep people from REAL criticism"
"Weaknesses of the Church of Scientology"
"How Scientology creates identity confusion"
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4 7th May 02:52
jb
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Default Why did L. Ron Hubbard want you & me to follow him and his teachings? - 10/19/03 (scientology)


was fraudulent.

See below for a ~lot~ of truth. Jack


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"Pay no attention to the person behind the screen" ("truth seeker") - The
Wizard of ODZ

If you want TRUTH, look at these:

If you're truly interested in finding out information on the Criminal Cult
of $cientology, go to any of these links - ignore the thing behind the
screen:

http://www.xenu.net/index.html
http://www.lisamcpherson.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/03.3.jl-jj-scientology.html
http://w4u.eexi.gr/~antbos/XENU.HTM
http://www.xenu-city.net/index.html
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/alter/
http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice/
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=OT+III
http://www.xenu.de/
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/krasel/cooper/index.html
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/
http://www.altreligionscientology.org/
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/room174.html
http://lisa.whyaretheydead.net/
http://warrior.xenu.ca

and, just to be fair -

http://www.scientology.org/
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5 7th May 02:52
jb
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Default Why did L. Ron Hubbard want you & me to follow him and his teachings? - 10/19/03 (religion image case books life)


No, he started a fraud that continues to this day. It's caused more misery
and ruined lives than most frauds. It's also cost a lot of people thier very
lives - far too many. Hell, even ~one~ life is too many for a so-called
religion.

From Jon Atacks book "A Piece Of Blue Sky", the full text of which can be
found at http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/

Evidence of Hubbard's interest in moving Scientology into a religious
position was given in the Armstrong case. On April 10, 1953, Hubbard wrote
from England to Helen O'Brien, who had just taken over the management of
Scientology in the U.S., telling her that it was time to move from a medical
to a religious image. His objectives were to eliminate all other
psychotherapies, to salvage his ailing organization, and, Hubbard was quite
candid, to make a great deal of money. Being a religion rather than a
psychotherapy was a purely commercial matter, Hubbard said. He enthused
about the thousands that could be milked out of preclears attracted by this
new promotional approach. 3

As usual, Hubbard was keeping all of the options open. In his explanatory
letter to the membership about the new "Church," he also introduced the
"Freudian Foundation of America." A variety of degrees were offered to
students, including "Bachelor of Scientology," "Doctor of Scientology,"
"Freudian Psycho-****yst," and "Doctor of Divinity" to be issued by the
"University of Sequoia," an American diploma mill (which was closed down by
the California Department of Education in 1958). Hubbard had already
received an "honorary doctorate" in philosophy from Sequoia. 4

Grow up, Yaude, you slime bucket.

In the meantime try one of the below URLs for more information. Jack

--
--
"Pay no attention to the person behind the screen" ("truth seeker") - The
Wizard of ODZ

If you want TRUTH, look at these:

If you're truly interested in finding out information on the Criminal Cult
of $cientology, go to any of these links - ignore the thing behind the
screen:

http://www.xenu.net/index.html
http://www.lisamcpherson.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/03.3.jl-jj-scientology.html
http://w4u.eexi.gr/~antbos/XENU.HTM
http://www.xenu-city.net/index.html
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/alter/
http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice/
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=OT+III
http://www.xenu.de/
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/krasel/cooper/index.html
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/
http://www.altreligionscientology.org/
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/room174.html
http://lisa.whyaretheydead.net/
http://warrior.xenu.ca

and, just to be fair -

http://www.scientology.org/
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6 21st May 03:16
doubledrooks2003
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Default Why did L. Ron Hubbard want you & me to follow him and his teachings? - 10/19/03 (beliefs religion)


Why did L. Ron Hubbard want you & me to follow him and his teachings?


L. Ron Hubbard never followed anybody, so why did he feel we
should follow him? Anything he ever did, any of us could do also.
He started a religion, right? My advise is, if you want, start your
own religion.


Truth Seeker
"A man must purify himself, no man can purify another"

================================================== ===

If you want to know what Scientology doesn't want you
to know, take a look these posts that I've put up earlier on
this newsgroup. (That's if the Church of "Suppress Free Speech"
hasn't illegally cancelled them)

"How to tell a real critic of Scientology from a phony one"
"How you know you've just read phony criticism created by Scientology"
"Scientology's Plan to Stop Critics & Criticism on this newsgroup"
"The key to how Scientology is handling this newsgroup"
"Why you should stay away from Scientology"
"The FAQ for Alt.Religion.Scientology"
"Names Scientology is Posting by on this newsgroup"
"Tactics OSA uses to stop critics on this newsgroup"
"The Magical Transformation of Church Member into Critic"
"How Scientology is playing both sides of the coin"
"Scientology's Decoy System"
"The 3 beliefs Scientology wants the world to believe"
"Some different Ways to "Handle" Scientology"
"How Scientology Traps New Members"
"Scientology's Trick to keep people from REAL criticism"
"Weaknesses of the Church of Scientology"
"How Scientology creates identity confusion"
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