Mark and bev t 2009-08-23 22:23:20
A memorable story about Michelangelo the Christian
painter. He was a Christian but also gay as demonstrated by his letters and
poems to his lover … something that fundamentalists may not like to hear!
The following extract comes from Vasari’s “Lives of The Artists” (Translated
by George Bull, Penguin; Middlesex, England: 1965; p. 379)
To return to the Last Judgement: Michelangelo had already finished more than
three~fourths of the work when Pope Paul went to see it. On this occasion
Biagio da Cesena, the master of ceremonies and a very high-minded person,
happened to be with the Pope in the chapel and was asked what he thought of
the painting. He answered that it was most disgraceful that in so sacred a
place there should have been depicted all those nude figures, exposing
themselves so shamefully, and that it was no work for a papal chapel but
rather for the public baths and taverns. Angered by this comment,
Michelangelo determined he would have his revenge; and as soon as Biagio had
left he drew his portrait frorn memory in the figure of Minos, shown with a
great serpent curled around his legs, among a heap of devils in h***; nor
for all his pleading with the Pope and Michelangelo could Biagio have the
figure removed, and it was left, to record the incident, as it is today.
Terence2 2009-08-23 22:23:33
He was no Christian , he was a Catholic and a f** .I hope they got
air condioning where he is now .
Walk softly and carry a big stick and people will call you a f** !
Paul rivas 2009-08-27 17:18:02
in article firstname.lastname@example.org, Mark and Bev Tindall at
Isn’t this the same painting he painted himself into? In h*** as well?
Mark bassett 2009-08-27 17:18:29
Tell us, why would it surprise anyone that a Roman Catholic pope hired and
had labor problems with a q**** painter?
Mark and bev t 2009-08-27 17:19:26
No. You may be thinking of Rembrandt who painted himself in “The Raising of
the Cross” as one responsible for Christ’s death. Rembrandt was perhaps the
greatest Christian painter of all time. Read the work of the Christian
artist H R Rookmaaker on this (associated with Francis Schaeffer & L’Abri).
Rembrandt was one of the first to place Christ at the centre of the painting
and thus central to life. He painted many beautiful works on Jesus and
biblical figures. He was a Christian.
What anti-art fear-filled fundamentalist pentes will not like is that
Rembrandt also drew many pictures of old people urinating! He also drew a
couple f****** in “The Great Bed” (…and the woman has four arms!). After
his wife died he lived with the housemaid in a de facto relationship and
never married her. Legalistic fear-filled fundamentalist pentecostals will
not understand the legal and financial reasons for his doing so.
Fear-filled fundamentalist pentes cannot understand such a creative
Christian genius and wrongly assume that Rembrandt was not a Trew Kristyun.
Will Mark Bassett be able to rationally and logically discuss this in
relation to Christianity and the Arts? Of course not!!!! He will attack me
or quote a few pithy little bible verses … the typical fundy pente
response when they are losing the argument! Pentes don’t understand art!!!!
Isaiah 29:13 “These people claim to worship me, but their words are
meaningless, and their hearts somewhere else. Their religion is nothing but
human rules and traditions, which they have simply memorised.”
“And so I tell you that I will send you … teachers; you will kill some of
them, crucify others, and whip others in the synagogues and chase them from
town to town.” – Jesus in Matthew 23:34
Mark and bev t 2009-08-27 17:19:29
Typical ignorant response from an anti-art fear-filled fundanamentalist
pente! What else would one expect!!!! Michelangelo may have painted Mark
Bassett at the bottom of h*** if he had lived in the same time as the great
“The world has many kings but only one Michelangelo.” – Aretino
(You DO know who Aretino was, don’t you. Mark Bassett??? …. Of course
not!!!! The pente motto is “Ignorance is bliss”!!!!!) *****************************
Paul rivas 2009-08-30 17:12:39
in article email@example.com, Mark and Bev Tindall at
I looked it up, actually it is. Saint Bartholomew (Pietro Aretino) is
holding his skin. It is on the right side of the Christ figure in the center
of the painting. The fact that Michelangelo included himself among the
damned might change the tone of him painting others into the same situation.
Rather than it being, “You are damned!” to “We are all sinners! We are
Snipped Mark’s usual ranting that fundamentalists and pentecostals are
against art. I’m a fundamentalist take a stab at one of my favorite
Paul rivas 2009-08-30 17:14:35
in article firstname.lastname@example.org, Mark and Bev Tindall at
1. A lack of reply does not mean he does not know.
2. Not knowing does not make him anti-art.
3. Do you know who these people are?
Pastor winter 2009-09-12 20:05:43
”Mark and Bev Tindall”
Sorry devil, but false-christian scum are not “Christian”.
We should keep in mind that the Tindall scum are compared
in the Word of God to a dog eating its own vomit.
It is notable how many of trinity cults are making headlines for
their sub-canine morals embracing the “G”ot “A”ids “Y”et crowd.
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with
womankind: it [is] abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with
a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:
for even their women did change the natural use into that which
is against nature:
Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of
the woman, burned in their l*** one toward another; men with men
working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that
recompence of their error which was meet.
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in
[their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do
those things which are not convenient;
I Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not
inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators,
nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, nor abusers of
themselves with mankind,
I wonder if I’ve been “exhaustive” enough here with this brief
Bible study. It does seem from these verses that God does have
feelings concerning certain matters….
There is hope for the Sodomite, but through repentance.
1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed,
but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the
Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
I hope this helps…
Pastor sTeve Winter
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?