bearassistant

This is being posted to a number of groups in which there have been recent
discussions of Immanuel Velikovsky and/or one or more versions of a
Saturn-based solar system theory such as you read about on:

http://www.thunderbolts.info
http://www.kronia.com
http://grazian-archive.com/Quantavol.htm
or
http://saturniancosmology.org/intro.php:

"...Earth, Mars, and Neptune all have their axes of rotation at 24 to 25
degrees from the rotational axis of the Sun, as does the giant planet
Saturn. This should not be. We would expect all the planets in the Solar
System to have their spin axes pointing in the same up and down direction
as the Sun. And, in fact, the spin axes of the rest of the planets, and all
of the 134 satellites of all the planets, point in the same direction as
their parent planet, with only a few rare exceptions. [note 1]

"The divergent and nearly identical inclination of the spin axes of these
four planets was one of the first clues that our Solar System is a
composite of two systems....."


The Velikovsky controversy is still going on. What Charles Ginenthal and I
have done is to make a fairly large selection of reading materials on some
of these topics available on the web in the form of downloadable ebooks, at
prices below what people used to pay for communist literature in the old
CCCP. As Rush would say, for those of you in Loma Linda, that's cheap.

The download site is:

http://bearfabrique.org/books/books.html

Offerings include a two-volume collection of writings and essays
called "Cosmology Wars", and a little book dealing with the nature of
gravity and the question of whether the larger dinosaurs could live in
present gravity.

There are two elephant-in-the-living-room type problems with the accepted
idea of gravity as a property of mass and space.

One is that there is no way to start with that and believe that gravity near
the surface of our own planet could have ever undergone any sort of a
substantial change, but it is an easy demonstration that it has.

The second involves Einsteins claim that information cannot be transmitted
faster than the speed of light, while gravity is known to propagate
instantaneously to within our abiliity to measure it. Obviously, whenever
you take five steps, you are sending some sort of a gravitational message
out into the cosmos, a great deal faster than C.

There might be a third thing which doesn't jibe with Einstein's notion of
gravity if you count Eugene Podkletnov and the USAF/Boeing GRASP project.
The most recent thing which a cursory Google search turned up on Podkletnov
indicates at least a claim of having working models of a gravity beam
device which, conceivably, could be used as a defensive weapon to knock
down katyusha rockets and the like.

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2004/08/04/6900035EugenePodkletnov/

In other words, it's at least possible that some of these seemingly
harebrained ideas might actually have real consequences. An idea of the
extent to which the Japanese are interested in these topics and their
ramifications can be glimpsed from a few slides from a program which was
shown on prime time on a Sunday in 04:

http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/sauropods/japanscreens/index.htm

skysea

Just because one cat pooped in the flower box, it doesn't mean more
cats are welcome to do so.


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starlord

Ya right, and how would you acount for VENUS? and how about Uranus? And I
see no reason why all the planets should have their poles at the same as the
sun.

It's nothing but garbage.

Doomed to fall forever into the Cyber Black Hole that has NO POLES at all!


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The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond

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