doug weller

Al Magary has provided these links to a study that says the ink is genuine:
http://tinyurl.com/wj8d
http://tinyurl.com/wj8n

Doug

david_christainsen

Friends,

Jacqueline Olin

Vindication for Vinland map: New study supports authenticity
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2003-11/acs-fv112403.php

Best,
David Christainsen

david

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Nope: This proves nor disproves anything. All she is arguing about is one of the
conclusions made in re. the ink. She does not say that the ink is authentic. What Olin
does say is .."the ink may help prove the map's authenticity, .."
The article indicates that Olin also states "There has also been no discussion about the
significance of the other elements ,....copper, aluminum and zinc - all found in the
Vinland Map's ink.
The controversy Olin is addressing is about the composition of the ink and if it is
consistent with inks produced in the 13th century.

Personally I'll still stick with Kirsten A Seaver'd theory of the twentieth century Jesuit
attempting to play an elaborate joke on the Nazi regime. Aside from the composition of the
ink there are too many cartographic elements that do not add up. One being that the Norse
did not make maps!

inger e johansson

David,
whenever the Vinland map was made it certainly wasn't during the Nazi era.
It's mentioned long before there were Nazists.

That said I guess it's fair to add that the map is only a little part of the
Vinland map carthographed by Nicholas Niger long before Columbus days.

Inger E
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that the Norse

icycalmca

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I have to agree that Olin is not claiming that the Vinland Map is
authentic.
I heard her interviewed on CBC Radio the other day.
She said that all that her work shows is that earlier dismissals of
its authenticity based on the presence of carbon were based on an
incomplete knowledge of Medieval ink-manufacturing techniques and
processes, and so cannot be supported.
She also said something I couldn't quite follow about whether or not
anatase (titanium dioxide) could have been used 50 years before
Columbus' discovery of America (she seemed to be a bit impatient with
the interviewer's apparent ignorance of the topic of Medieval inks),
but the gist of it was that use of anatase was not unknown at the
time.
Her final statement was to the effect that we had not yet heard the
final word on the Vinland Map's authenticity, without expressin an
opinion one way or the other as to its authenticity.

Daryl Krupa

norpinal

Study Says Medieval New World Map Is Real
Wed Nov 26,12:54 PM ET Add Science - AP to My Yahoo!


By DIANE SCARPONI, Associated Press Writer

NEW HAVEN, Conn. - The latest scientific ****ysis of a disputed map of
the medieval New World supports the theory that it was made 50 years
before Christopher Columbus set sail.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031126/ap_on_sc/vinland_map_3

martin

horace labadie

This is from the AP version of the story:


"Also, she said anatase also could have ended up in the ink because of
the manufacturing process, and its crystal size and shape could have
changed over time."


What process as a function of time could produce a change in size and
shape that could be mistaken for modern anatase? Sounds fishy.


HWL

inger e johansson

"Horace LaBadie" <hwlabadiejr@nospamhighstream.net> skrev i meddelandet
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Horace,
If you had read my message last year after my Ph.D. friend working at a
scientist at Chalmers Gothenburg had explained that type of anatase for me,
then you would have known. According to information I had to my mailbox it's
exactly the same as what I wrote then!!!

Good Night naysayer. Inger E

philip deitiker

Could someone please translate the above into English.
[Modern English, American]

zolota

You never talked about anatase changing in size and shape and you got the
dimensions of the picture wrong too.

Svolicha!

Z