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1 14th November 19:19
peter hucker
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Is there an easy way to work out what cheques have cleared and what haven't? For example this is the latest part of my online banking statement http://www.hucker.plus.com/temp/statement.jpg , and I'm told that the available balance is £100.32 lower than the account balance (which means £100.32 of paid ins minus paid outs have not cleared). Can anyone see what matches £100.32 in the picture? If so how do you do it?

And no the bank have no idea what's cleared or not, I asked them.

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2 14th November 19:19
harry
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haven't? For example this is the latest part of my online banking statement
http://www.hucker.plus.com/temp/statement.jpg , and I'm told that the
available balance is £100.32 lower than the account balance (which means
£100.32 of paid ins minus paid outs have not cleared). Can anyone see what
matches £100.32 in the picture? If so how do you do it?


I can't get exactly £100.32, but there are a few ways of getting 2p out, and
I've found just one way to get 1p out.
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3 14th November 19:19
peter hucker
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Hmmmm...... stupid stupid bank. Time to give them another abusive phonecall me thinks.

So how did you find ways? Trial and error or is there a method to this madness?


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4 14th November 19:19
harry
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phonecall me thinks.


madness?


Trial and error, but well structured.

Will a little assistance from Excel.
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5 14th November 19:19
peter hucker
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I like excelling. But I can't figure out how to do THAT.

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6 14th November 19:19
richard henry
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haven't? For example this is the latest part of my online banking statement
http://www.hucker.plus.com/temp/statement.jpg , and I'm told that the
available balance is £100.32 lower than the account balance (which means
£100.32 of paid ins minus paid outs have not cleared). Can anyone see what
matches £100.32 in the picture? If so how do you do it?

Dude! Why are you writing cheques (love that spelling) for 2.26?


You need a better banque.
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7 14th November 19:19
peter hucker
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Ebay, screw paypal etc. And pounds are worth far more than your silly little incorrectly spelt dollar checks :-P


Une banque? Vous est francais?


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8 14th November 19:19
peter webb
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little incorrectly spelt dollar checks :-P

No, a wanquer.
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9 14th November 19:19
richard s. sandmeyer
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Of course, one way is the "brute force" method. I actually implemented
such an approach years ago using a now obsolete computer language on a
now obsolete operating system. I've never ported it to a more modern
system, though it might be a fun spare time project. Here's how it goes:

Say there are N transactions (deposits, cheques, ATM withdrawals, etc.)
that are candidates (i.e., cheques you know have been written and
deposits you have made but that you don't know whether the bank has yet
added/subtracted from your account balance.) Adopt a sign convention
(say positive for "paid ins" like deposits and negative for "paid outs"
like cheques).

Then there are 2^N possible combinations (each transaction can either
have cleared or not) to examine. If N is small enough, this can easily
be implemented on a computer. Just write a program that will read in
your list of transaction amounts and then in turn generates each
possible combination (subset) of them and calculates the corresponding
total. When you find one that matches the difference (100.32 in your
example), then it is possibly the subset consisting of those that
haven't cleared. There is, of course, no guarantee that the solution
will be unique since in general it is possible for several different
subsets to yield the same total. However, without further information,
this is as far as you can narrow it down. BTW, it is probably best to
multiply the amounts by 100, round to nearest integer, and then do the
arithmetic in integers to avoid floating point equality checks.

Of course, if N is large, this approach is impractical. I should think
any reasonably fast modern PC or Mac could check cases up to N=20 (~ 1
million combinations) fast enough to be usable. If you typically have a
lot more checks than that outstanding, then you'll need a different
approach. There are algorithms for solving integer programming problems
with binary variables (0 or 1 to indicate whether a check has cleared)
and arbitrary coefficients (the transaction amounts). I've no idea how
fast they execute nor do I know of an implementation to point you to.
You might check on-line or in textbooks on integer linear programming
and related subjects.

Rich Sandmeyer
rich.sand at verizon dot net
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10 14th November 19:19
bob harris
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They don't provide a statement showing which checks arrived each month??????
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