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1 4th July 11:01
jean-claude evard
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Is it already known that over an interval of integers
[2, N], the ratio Phi(m) over m is minimum when m
is the largest primorial that lies in this interval ?

Here:

Phi(m) = Euler`s function
= Number of integers k
such that 0<k<m and gcd(k,m)=1.

primorial = product of the smallest primes:
2# = 2 primorial = 2,
3# = 3 primorial = 2*3 = 6,
5# = 5 primorial = 2*3*5 = 30,
7# = 7 primorial = 2*3*5*7 = 210,
.........

With many thanks for your time and attention,

Jean-Claude Evard
Department of Mathematics
Western Kentucky University
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2 4th July 11:02
gottfried helms
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Am 29.06.05 16:30 schrieb Jean-Claude Evard:


Without being able to answer the question at this time,
is this also true, if the primorial involves the wieferich
prime 1093
n1= 2*3*5*...*1093
and the interval [2..N] contains also the number n2=n1*1093?

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3 4th July 11:02
jean-claude evard
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Your question is quite a test for my statement, and I thank you a lot.
I do not have a valid proof of my statement yet, but I need the result
for my current research work. I wanted first to be sure that it was
not already published. I should have called it conjecture.

My updated conjectures are the following:

Let r(m) = [The ratio phi(m) over m].

Conjecture 1. The relative minimum values of r(m) occur at the points
where m is a primorial, and the sequence of values of r(m) at these
points is strictly decreasing.

Conjecture 2. The relative maximum values of r(m) occur at the points
where m is a prime, the sequence of values of r(m) at these points is
strictly increasing, and its limit when m goes to infinity is 1.

Conjecture 3. If we eliminate the points where r(m) has a relative maximum
value, then the new relative maximum values of r(m) occur at the points
where m is the square of a prime, the sequence of values of r(m) at these
points is strictly increasing, and its limit when m goes to infinity is 1.

Everyone is welcome to publish a proof or a counterexample of any
of these conjectures. I will try later if it is not already done. I remain
interested in any related references.

With many thanks for your time and attention,

Jean-Claude Evard
Department of Mathematics
Western Kentucky University
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4 26th July 01:42
jean-claude evard
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Below is a copy of an answer to my posting
about phi(m)/m from Gerd Verbouwe (Belgium).
For technical reasons, he could not get it
posted here, and he e-mailed it to me the day
of my posting, on June 30, 2005. After a long
delay due to emergencies, I checked his answer,
and with his agreement, I submit it for posting
here.

Jean-Claude Evard
Department of Mathematics
Western Kentucky University
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First, I recall the notation that I used:
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Phi(m) = [The Euler`s function]
= [The number of integers k
such that 0<k<m and gcd(k,m)=1].

r(m) = [The ratio phi(m) over m].

primorial = product of the smallest primes:
2# = 2 primorial = 2,
3# = 3 primorial = 2*3 = 6,
5# = 5 primorial = 2*3*5 = 30,
7# = 7 primorial = 2*3*5*7 = 210,
........
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Here is a copy of the answer from
Gerd Verbouwe of June 30, 2005:
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Sorry for replying personally, but my post
to the sci.math.research newsgroup didn't
come through. About

Isn't observing that
r(m) = Phi(m) / m = \prod_{primes p_i | m} (1 - 1/p_i) (*)
enough?

Say p# < m < q# (p prime, q the next prime larger than p).

[a] The number of distinct prime factors of m is less than
or equal to \pi(p) = the number of prime factors of p#.
(because p# is the smallest number with \pi(p) prime factors)
(or "the number of distinct prime factors of m is strictly smaller
than \pi(q)".)
[b] Since all factors in (*) are less than one; if a prime P|m,
P > p occurs, it can be replaced by a smaller one, hence
no minimum in this case.
[c] Hence (*) is a relative minimum, when as much factors
(1-1/prime) as possible occur, and since 1-1/P > 1-1/p for
P>p, one needs the first N primes… . Of course these are
"local" minima, since, e.g. r(2* 17#) = r(17#) and (*)
shows immediately that it is strictly decreasing.

(Also,

becomes clear: it's maximal when only one factor (1-1/p) appears,
this happens first for the prime p itself; the limit of these is of course 1.)

Am I missing something here? gv
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I think that this proof is 100% OK. I have not checked
my third conjecture yet, and I intend to come back to
all this during next summer. Jean-Claude Evard
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