WC 2005

The WC 2005 can become the WC with the highest standard ever. Imagine if
all, or at least most of, the "NHL" players are available (and fit)?

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All that we see, or seem,
is but a dream, within a dream,
installed by the Machine

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The highest standard was demonstrated during 1970's and 1980's. Nowadays
training is so much substandard everywhere that the above mentioned standard
cannot be met.

Quoting Markku Grönroos in rec.sport.hockey:

I agree that the Sovietunion and Czechoslovakia probably were at least as
good back then as they are today with their respective NHL-pros. Perhaps
(though less likely) even Sweden and Finland were.

But Canada and the USA may certainly be much better.

--
All that we see, or seem,
is but a dream, within a dream,
installed by the Machine

Now now, this is Markku we're talking about: Not having the best players
available only counts when explaining Soviet/Russian losses to Canada.

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Canadians seldom managed to win Soviets. In those rare occasions it took
place by breaking bones of the opponent or something like that. I am a bit
annoying naturally because I have first hand experience on those glory days
of the Soviet Union. I am not here to kill anyone's illusions.

If you're talking about pros vs. pros, Canada did well enough. 1972
did see the Bobby Clarke ankle-breaking slash on Kharlamov, butI 'm
trying to remember cases of Canadian players doing anything similar
against Soviet pros in Canada Cup wins after that.

Are these illusions similar to the ones that saw the Canadian team breaking
Soviet bones in '76, '84, and '87? Sounds like a pretty cool phenomenon.

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1 16th June 22:04 anders t External User Posts: 1	WC 2005 The WC 2005 can become the WC with the highest standard ever. Imagine if all, or at least most of, the "NHL" players are available (and fit)? -- All that we see, or seem, is but a dream, within a dream, installed by the Machine

2 16th June 22:04 markku grönroos External User Posts: 1	WC 2005 "anders t" <anthu_001@No?SPaM?_hotmail.com> kirjoitti viestissä news:hv58s01t2oi77plrc4ao1pjr7fag8u3us8@4ax.com... The highest standard was demonstrated during 1970's and 1980's. Nowadays training is so much substandard everywhere that the above mentioned standard cannot be met.

3 16th June 22:04 anders t External User Posts: 1	WC 2005 Quoting Markku Grönroos in rec.sport.hockey: I agree that the Sovietunion and Czechoslovakia probably were at least as good back then as they are today with their respective NHL-pros. Perhaps (though less likely) even Sweden and Finland were. But Canada and the USA may certainly be much better. -- All that we see, or seem, is but a dream, within a dream, installed by the Machine

4 20th June 17:51 jason cormier External User Posts: 1	WC 2005 Now now, this is Markku we're talking about: Not having the best players available only counts when explaining Soviet/Russian losses to Canada.

5 20th June 17:51 markku grönroos External User Posts: 1	WC 2005 "Jason Cormier" <fjlij@hotmail.com> kirjoitti viestissä news:BDF7BCFE.B9A70%fjlij@hotmail.com... Canadians seldom managed to win Soviets. In those rare occasions it took place by breaking bones of the opponent or something like that. I am a bit annoying naturally because I have first hand experience on those glory days of the Soviet Union. I am not here to kill anyone's illusions.

6 20th June 17:51 fingal External User Posts: 1	WC 2005 If you're talking about pros vs. pros, Canada did well enough. 1972 did see the Bobby Clarke ankle-breaking slash on Kharlamov, butI 'm trying to remember cases of Canadian players doing anything similar against Soviet pros in Canada Cup wins after that.

7 20th June 17:52 jason cormier External User Posts: 1	WC 2005 Are these illusions similar to the ones that saw the Canadian team breaking Soviet bones in '76, '84, and '87? Sounds like a pretty cool phenomenon.