8th inning -- Where's Gagne?

5-4 Dodgers in the 8th, 2 out, Quantrill has put two men on, facing Wil
Cordero...

....is this not a good time to bring in the best closer in the game for a
four-out save?

(Given the bullpen's record of rarely blowing leads after 7 innings, I
can't fault Tracy too much for sticking with Quantrill, but still...)

--

DL

Always be excellent.

Hindsight. If they had used Gagne and he gave up runs we would be
wondering why they pulled a pitcher with a 1.43 era. Everyone in the
bullpen just about is capable of closing out a game. This was just one
of those games that the pitching wasn't as sharp....it happens.

Hey, at least they are scoring runs! :-)

AG

He should have pulled Quantrill because Cordero kills him.when I heard how
good he hits Quantrill I said to myself you better put Gagne in.I was right.

given that cordero was something on the order of 11-19 against
quantrill, i would not have asked a single question about tracy
removing him.

my question is why the hell he let him face cordero, in that
situation. two outs and *nobody* on, ok, maybe you let him have a
shot, but *not* with runners in scoring position

p0ne

..600

RWG (EXTREMELY small sample size :-)

Dances like a diamond shines
Tells me lies I love to believe
Her age is always twenty-two
Her laughing eyes a hazel hue
Spends my money like water falls
Loves me like I want her to

-The Late, Great Townes Van Zandt

I just figure Paul is pitching really well this year. You wouldn't dig out
a players
lifetime numbers against Gagne and make a decision about pulling him. I
know
Paul hasn't made quite the same turn around but he is still pitching pretty
damn
good. What was Cordero's numbers against him this year? Stats against are
important..but not chisled in stone and certainly not for guys that you
don't
face that many times in a year.

AG

quantrill is not gagne.

granted it was only 20 at bats, but a .600 average against a pitcher,
late in the game, with a runner in scoring position, i'd think a
change to gagne would be in order.

all mental ************ of course, since the change wasn't made, the
hitter did live up to his rep against qunatrill and knock in the go
ahead, and eventual winning runs.

perhaps so, but 20 at bats against a particular pitcher is significant
enough to pay attention to, imo, given the game situation

p0ne

Of course, if small sample sizes are used, there's also 0-7.

That's what Cordero was at as a pinch hitter this season prior to that
at bat.

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1 8th February 09:33 dl External User Posts: 1	8th inning -- Where's Gagne? 5-4 Dodgers in the 8th, 2 out, Quantrill has put two men on, facing Wil Cordero... ....is this not a good time to bring in the best closer in the game for a four-out save? (Given the bullpen's record of rarely blowing leads after 7 innings, I can't fault Tracy too much for sticking with Quantrill, but still...) -- DL Always be excellent.

2 8th February 09:33 agua girl External User Posts: 1	8th inning -- Where's Gagne? Hindsight. If they had used Gagne and he gave up runs we would be wondering why they pulled a pitcher with a 1.43 era. Everyone in the bullpen just about is capable of closing out a game. This was just one of those games that the pitching wasn't as sharp....it happens. Hey, at least they are scoring runs! :-) AG

3 8th February 20:56 cm External User Posts: 1	8th inning -- Where's Gagne? He should have pulled Quantrill because Cordero kills him.when I heard how good he hits Quantrill I said to myself you better put Gagne in.I was right.

4 8th February 20:56 po External User Posts: 1	8th inning -- Where's Gagne? given that cordero was something on the order of 11-19 against quantrill, i would not have asked a single question about tracy removing him. my question is why the hell he let him face cordero, in that situation. two outs and nobody on, ok, maybe you let him have a shot, but not with runners in scoring position p0ne

5 8th February 20:56 po External User Posts: 1	8th inning -- Where's Gagne? ..600

6 8th February 20:56 rwgibson13 External User Posts: 1	8th inning -- Where's Gagne? RWG (EXTREMELY small sample size :-) Dances like a diamond shines Tells me lies I love to believe Her age is always twenty-two Her laughing eyes a hazel hue Spends my money like water falls Loves me like I want her to -The Late, Great Townes Van Zandt

9 8th February 20:57 po External User Posts: 1	8th inning -- Where's Gagne? perhaps so, but 20 at bats against a particular pitcher is significant enough to pay attention to, imo, given the game situation p0ne

10 8th February 20:57 ima pseudonym External User Posts: 1	8th inning -- Where's Gagne? Of course, if small sample sizes are used, there's also 0-7. That's what Cordero was at as a pinch hitter this season prior to that at bat.