mzmeryze

What is it?

1. One on one record.
2. Against the NFC.
3. ?

Just in case Green Bay and New Orleans are tied for the last wild card
spot. Anyone know?

jon c

Third is best record in common games.

Green Bay definitely has the advantage... the only opponents in common are
Seattle, Philly, and Tampa Bay. Green Bay has a 2-1 record in those games,
whereas the Saints are 1-3.

jon c

Actually that's the *second* tiebreak. Record vs NFC is *after* that.

jon c

I need to read the whole page before I post.

The second, in this case (Wild Card teams from different division), is NFC
record. Then is "common games," but there is a minimum of 4 games in
common. Since NO and GB don't have 4 games in common, next is Strength of
Victory. I'm not entirely sure what that means, but I assume it means
average margin of victory for games won, or PPG minus PAG. Either way Green
Bay is still doing better - they have outscored their opponents overall
whereas NO hasn't (25.5 - 21.2 for GB vs 20.2 - 22.5 for NO) *and* they have
outscored their opponents in victory by a larger margin than NO (13.6 points
for GB and 11 points for NO).

wiseman41

Of course, if Carolina stages a Saints-like collapse, all of this is
irrelevant. Saints-NFC South Champions.

Ah, to dream. How come nobody else ever collapses in December like we do?

Saints Fan, Abita Man

jon c

New Orleans has to be known for something, right? Late season collapses are
better than simply ****ing so bad you're irrelevant.

heydan

NOT being the Saints

wolfie

The Saints are 5-5 in the conference. In order to tie here, the
Saints need to beat both Dallas and NYG. The Packers finished
at 7-5 in the conference (all their remaining games are vs AFC teams.)

The Packers and Saints have four common opponents: Tampa Bay
(1-0 GB, 1-1 NO), Seattle (1-0 GB, 0-1 NO), Chicago (2-0 GB,
1-0 NO), and Eagles (0-1 GB, 0-1 NO), for a total record of
4-1 GB to 2-3 NO. This is decided and the Packers win the
tiebreaker.

The only way the Saints can advance ahead of the Packers is
if the Saints finish with a better record.


Strength of Victory is the ***ulative winning percentage of the
teams which a team defeated. In short, it rewards a team for
beating good opponents more than a team which beat worse
opponents. For example, the Giants (4-9) are "better" than the
Lions (also 4-9) because the average opponent the Giants
have beaten is 7-6, while the average opponent the Lions have
beaten is 4.5-8.5. (For 6-7 teams, it's Bills/Bucs (tied at 0.500),
49ers (0.423), and Saints (0.346.))

To calculate it, add up all the wins of teams which a team defeated
(ties count as 1/2) and divide by the total games. The Saints are
currently at 29th in the league (27-51) and the Packers tied for 8th
(42-49.)

s321saint

Basically, the Saints HAVE to win out and get lots of help.