Cordo 2012-06-08 01:00:28
Perhaps the stupidest person I’ve ever seen on national tv.
Cynicor 2012-06-08 01:00:33
Typical interview with her:
Interviewer: “Now all the things that you cite as facts in here, they’re all
easily disproven. Here are 45 examples.”
Coulter: “They’re all in my book, with footnotes! Liberals loved 9/11 and
Greg dubrow 2012-06-08 01:00:36
He’s just the fat liberal version of her. Both are stupid blowhards,
equally annoying and equally mistaken in half of what they say.
Edward webb 2012-06-08 01:00:43
Stupidest Person I have ever seen on Nattional TV without question has to be
His immoral antics a few years ago probally cost Al Gore the Election in
We all saw how close that was,Think One state may have voted the other way
without Monica-Gate influencing many people.?
No one u know 2012-06-08 01:00:46
Nah, George W. Bush for sure.
Okkeg nodrog 2012-06-08 01:00:52
”You’re working HARD to put FOOD on your FAMILY”
Leon neon 2012-06-08 01:01:04
He is not stupid, he just misspeaks often – and being the president and
always in the spot light there is often a chance to do such… Would I
rather my President not do that – sure. But, he is not stupid. He has
degree’s from both Harvard and Yale (Yale University, bachelor’s degree,
history & Harvard University, Master of Business Administration). His daddy
was not president at the time of College degree’s, so he was just another
Student. They don’t just hand out degree’s from colleges like that…
Greg dubrow 2012-06-08 01:01:07
Oh please. He was a “C” student at best, even at prep school. He got
into Yale and Harvard because of family ties. Don’t be naive. And once
you get into places like that it takes severe f****** up to not finish.
He may not be stupid, but he ain’t that bright. And the general
characterization I’ve seen is that he just isn’t “inquisitive”. He
doesn’t care to ask meaningful questions on issues. Maybe that’s better
in a leader than Clinton’s incessant over-analyzing and pondering. I
tend to think you need a balance — asking deeper questions but knowing
when to shut evryone up and make a decision. Bush’s decisions seem often
the product of a minute of discussion to verify his extant world view.
Lars 2012-06-08 01:01:10
He is not smart by any standard, and compared to other heads of state he is
Cynicor 2012-06-08 01:01:12
His father was a Yale alumnus, and his grandfather was a senator from
Connecticut who made money from his alliance with N*** Germany. Hardly an
In any event, this is an interesting piece on the language constructs that
Cordo 2012-06-11 16:56:56
I think he’s fairly stupid and he is not inquisitive.
That said, I think most of his verbal fauxes-pas come from his dyslexia, and
it bothers me that the press make fun of him for this. It doesn’t bother me
that he messes up his words, it bothers me that he’s simpleminded and
superficial in his thinking, and extremely shallow in his knowledge. Reagan
spoke well, but his ideas were equally inane, and were equally not his own.
Cordo 2012-06-11 16:56:59
My old landlord was Jon Else, the “dean” of American documentary film making
(“Eyes on the Prize,” “The Day after Trinity,” “Cadillac Desert,” etc.), who
teaches at Berkeley’s Journalism School. Moore’s looseness with the truth
inspired him to make sure to teach his students that you have to remember to
get your facts right. In the Columbine movie, for example, the whole thesis
that contrasts the U.S. to Canada was based on a statistic that disappears
when one controls for whether you’re talking of rifles or handguns, instead
of lumping them together.
Leon neon 2012-06-11 16:57:02
A “C” at Yale and Harvard is an “A” at most other schools, because the
quality of student is better than your average state school. So what he was
not an “A” student, just because he was a “C” student does not make him
stupid. Besides, I know a lot of “A” students that are not worth s*** –
sure they did well in school but can not function in the real world. And,
sure a lot of people get into Yale and Harvard because of family ties – and
a lot flunk out. Bush did not get the degree’s because of family ties. I
disagree about the “places like that it takes severe f****** up to not finish”.
I agree with you that a balance is typically best. But, Bush is rarely put
in the position where he need to be “inquisitive” in front of the nation.
He should not be “inquisitive” at this time (War/Terrorism), we need a
leader who tells it like it is and is clear on his decisions. Unlike,
Clinton who wavered on every subject because he was not sure what the polls
would look like if he made a definitive statement – granted he could afford
to do that because of timing. And, in regard to Bush’s or any other
presidents decisions… We really don’t now what goes on behind the scene –
My guess is that it is all well though out.
Leon neon 2012-06-11 16:57:06
Based on What??? The liberal media reports? Harvard and Yale are two of the best colleges in the world, and he has degree’s from them. What makes any other head of state better. Is Schroeder or Chirac smarter? I know that it is not smart to p*** of the most powerful country in the world. The bottom line is that his is doing an excellent job running this country in a very difficult time. And, critics are looking for anything to grab onto to pull him down.
Greg dubrow 2012-06-11 16:57:09
A “C” is a “C” is a “C”. Average work is average work. A “C” at the
prestige schools is not an “A” elsewhere. I’ve spent lots of time now at
state and private schools. I’m speaing from some experience here.
I’m not saying he’s stupid. But you, for not reading….
No, sparky. Nobody flunks out. Completion rates for those schools are
well above 90%, and typically the failure to fniish has more to do with
financial reasons, not academics (research is very clear on this). It
takes severe f****** up to not finish because of academics.
And this isn’t a new thing — the “gentleman’s C” is a time-honored
tradition in places like Yale. The student shows up, does a modicum of
work and as long as they don’t annoy the prof they’ll get a C even for c*** work.
Yes, yes he did.
Well, you’re wrong.
That’s not where he’s been characterized as uninquisitive. It’s by
journalists with access beyond what we see.
Which, sadly he seems to have trouble doing.
I just don’t get the sense his is the guiding hand for policy, that he’s
being led around by the nose by Wolfowitz and the neo-cons. None of the
current policy stuff was in his campaign positions. In fact, some it
what he’s doing now is directly contrary. Granted, 9/11 had something to
do with it. What’s scary is that the policy agenda he’s following now
just about mirrors the position papers of the neo-cons, including the
letter they sent to Clinton wrt Iraq.
Greg dubrow 2012-06-11 16:57:12
Ah, the “liberal media” canard. I love how that gets pulled out to back up bullshit assertions.
Nor is it smart to lie in a State of the Union address. Nor is it smart
to deceive your citizens about reasons to go to war. Nor is it smart to
prosecute the war in such a way as to p*** OFF your allies thus
rendering them quite unwilling to help out in thepeace, which is what
the US needs now — NATO or UN troops to help. But if you were Germany,
France or any other ally dissed by the Bushies, would you help out now?
Excellent? Horseshit. he lied about the reasons for war, lied about the
tax cuts. No economic indicator of importance has been up in over a
year, save for the GDP increase announced the other day. And the
unemployment figures have more to do with the failure to count people
not actively seeking work than any upward tick in hiring — payrolls
were slashed last month. The tax cuts themselves will keep us so deep in
debt for so long that it’s not funny. Unless something changes
drastically we’re f***** when the majority of boomers hit retirement.
Greg dubrow 2012-06-11 16:58:26
Wait. You went to Clown College**? Aw man, I can’t have you agreeing
** for some reason, this is what you refer to princeton as if you’re at
penn. not sure why.
Micron26 2012-06-11 16:58:29
Moron. Ever heard of grade inflation and legacies? Take it from
someone who’s a Yale graduate and former teacher–I saw many George W.
Bushes when I was there. They were the type of guys who would laugh at
you if you gave them a B (the modern equivalent of a C) because they
knew it didn’t matter what they did as their futures were already
assured. Of course, if they really buggered things up, Daddy (or
Gramps) would have to pony up some additional cash (say a renovation
of one of the resdiential colleges) to smooth everything over. Georgre
W. Bush has never worked for anything in his life.
Moron. You think Bush is doing a good job? Take a look at this year’s
deficit and the next four years’ projections and tell me how that’s
good. In any way at all, or for any one other than his corporate
cronies. BTW a lot of the ‘difficult times’ are direct consequences of
Bush’s policies. As for Bush’s verbal acuity, it’s hard to judge
because he only speaks from a script, and only at fund-raisers and in
front of Bob Jones University crowds. Imagine if he actually had to go
through what Tony Blair does in front of the House of commons every
I can’t believe I actually agree with Lars.
Machinehead 2012-06-17 08:23:05
That people miss this, or actually believe that some “trickle-down” effect
is going to rescue us, amazes me. You can’t have everything, and if it’s
too good to be true, it probably is. Handing out tax cuts while racking up
huge deficits and playing games with all the numbers just isn’t good policy.
Now don’t think I’m not grateful. Hey, I get like $20 extra a week, plus a
$400 child tax credit. Sweet. Except I’m going to get a***-raped by the
state (NJ Homestead Rebate is already being cut in half this year, there
goes $300…), and in turn the state isn’t going to kick down as much to the
towns, so I’m going to get bent over for more property taxes, all while I’m
supposed to be saving more to cover the ever-spiraling college tuition for
my kids. I mean, f***, fight a war, enhance domestic security, do what you
need to do, but don’t tell me that the sky is pink when I can d*** well see
it’s blue. And the worst part is, I don’t think there would’ve been a whole
lot of protest if he had backed off on some of the tax cuts after 9/11, and
run deficits to cover security and war costs. Nobody I know would have a
problem foregoing extra cash to fight terrorism – h***, maybe even help out
our troops a little bit, Lord knows a lot of these reservists could use some
cash right now, not to mention the full-timers – it was an easy out for the
neo-cons and they chose instead to jack up the deficits. Meanwhile, we
probably *could* afford meaningful tax relief if a******* on both sides of
the aisle would get their hands out of the porkbarrel and start serving the
people for a change.
Cordo 2012-06-17 08:23:08
At Princeton, we referred to Penn as “my safety school.”
Greg dubrow 2012-06-17 08:23:12
Yeah, that’s what most people in Penn doctoral programs thought about
Stanford doc programs.
Cordo 2012-06-17 08:23:44
I’m based nowadays in California and Nevada. Last week the Nevada
legislature finally passed a budget to cut their huge deficit. Instead of
cutting education (which they said they were going to do) they decided to
crank up the sin taxes, car registration fees, and they hiked the payroll
The day before yesterday California (a month into having no budget) finally
broke their deadlock with a plan that covers half the deficit with borrowing
(bonds) and the other half with car registration fees and a few other fees.
Since I have no children, I come out with a net loss here, afaict.
Leon neon 2012-06-17 08:24:45
Gore posted average grades
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON – Vice President Al Gore posted only average grades as a student
at a prestigious Washington prep school, in most of his courses at Harvard
and during brief graduate studies at Vanderbilt, The Washington Post
The newspaper said in Sunday’s editions that it obtained Gore’s transcripts
independently and noted that some of the information had been cited
previously by a Newsweek writer in a biography of Gore.
The Post published a photograph of some of Gore’s transcripts, along with
some of those of Texas Gov. George W. Bush, whose grades at Yale were first
been reported on last November by The New Yorker magazine.
Citing academic records of both men, the Post said Gore entered Harvard with
an 1355 SAT score while Bush arrived at Yale for undergraduate work with a
1206 SAT total.
Once in college, both men posted similarly mixed academic records, the Post
said, pointing out that in his sophomore year at Harvard, “Gore’s grades
were lower than any semester recorded on Bush’s transcript from Yale.”
It said Gore received one D, one c-minus, two C’s, two C-pluses and one
B-minus, placing him in the lower fifth of the class for a second
Greg dubrow 2012-06-21 03:00:19
So? What the f*** does this have to do with you being wrong about
grading and flunking out at places like Yale?
Wayne 2012-06-21 03:00:59
Well s***, they both beat me…
Cynicor 2012-06-21 03:01:27
Mere pocket change. I got 1200 on each section of the SAT. How did I get
2400 when the max is 1600? I’m JUST THAT SMART.
Lars 2012-06-21 03:01:54
1206 on the SAT corresponds to an IQ of 129. Pretty low for a president.
Greg dubrow 2012-06-21 03:01:57
Where L’A*** probably got his info.
General info on SAT:IQ —
Leon neon 2012-06-26 00:26:49
Bill Gates (Microsoft) dropped out of Harvard, 1976
Steve Jobs (Apple, NeXT, Pixar) left Reed College in Portland, Oregon, after
Steve Wozniak (with Jobs, founded Apple Computer)
Lawrence Ellison (Oracle Computer)
Michael Dell (Dell Computer) dropped out of the University of Texas
David Geffen (Geffen Records, Dreamworks SKG) flunked out of University of
Texas, Austin, AND Brooklyn College, NY
H Wayne Huizenga (Blockbuster Video millionaire, owner of Miami Dolphins,
Florida Panthers and Florida Marlins) attended Calvin College, Grand Rapids,
Michigan, for 3 semesters
Ted Turner (media mogul) -kicked out, I hear!
Ron Popeil (tv huckster, RONCO)
William Hanna (Hanna-Barbera)
Cordo 2012-06-26 00:27:04
I guess the guy he hired to take them wasn’t as smart as he thought.
Cordo 2012-06-26 00:27:05
Actually, that guy Scarborough is giving her a run for her money.
Cynicor 2012-06-26 00:27:10
I love hearing the inane promos for that show. “There have been no
indications that Hillary is running for president, but does she really have
plans? She says she’s not, but we know she’s a liar. We’ll try to scare you
with ‘WooooooOOOooo’ ghost noises tonight on Scarborough Country.”
Cordo 2012-06-26 00:27:25
He’s not only pathetically shallow, but, as you point out, he lies more
often than I blink. He and Coulter are made for each other.
I’d love it if Scarborough went on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart. When
Coulter did that, he read back to her completely indefensible statements
from her book and asked her to defend them. He read to her statements about
how certain liberals are conspiring to overthrow our country, and he asked
her to name one. She kept backpedalling, and he just kept right after her.
She then said the “group” would include very liberal democrats. So he
suggested Ted Kennedy. When she wouldn’t commit to Ted Kennedy, he
confessed that he couldn’t figure out who’s in this group of “liberals” if
Ted Kennedy wasn’t in them. She looked so flustered and uneasy.
David higgins 2012-06-26 00:27:28
Just for the sake of accuracy, since this is in theory
a hockey group. 😉
Leon neon 2012-06-29 04:13:14
Sorry, I wanted to – but have not the time to get into a good argument.
You did not state that he was stupid, but the start of this topic stated
such…. A point which I disagree. Regarding Yale, I disagree with the
“severe f****** up to not finish”. I think f****** up would do it as well.
Purely, subjective point. I did not say that it was Hard to finish,
difficult yes. Again, subjective. My other point was the legacy issue – my
guess is that Yale has a lot of legacy students (esp. in the 60’s). Which
would have made him just another student, since the Bush’s were not well
Again, Yale population is probably higher Rich people than most schools –
putting Bush as just another student. I may agree with the hard to fail,
but not severe f****** up. I would still like to here what a Yale prof.
would have to say about that accusation.
The Al Gore note was just something interesting I found on a quick search.
Gore is often compared to Bush (by the media), and Gore is often hailed as a
intellectual. And, to find out that the SAT scores where close and Gore’s
grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush’s transcript at Yale.
I just find it difficult to believe that Yale is a cake walk as you make it
seem… Regardless of the easy of Yale, it still commands respect and a
perceived value higher than most colleges. I still stand by the C average
at Yale is better than an A average at a state school. Just look at the
average starting salary’s. I have no data on this but my guess is that a
Yale degree will get you a higher salary, whatever the average grades. You
and others that lived it may know the truth about the easy of Yale, but the
general population would still believe that it is more difficult than a
Leon neon 2012-06-29 04:13:17
What is the average for President and heads of state? Do you have a
Cynicor 2012-06-29 04:13:42
I severely f’d up there and was able to squeak out. I know exactly how much
work he would’ve had to do, and it’s less than I did – especially if he got
a bit of help.
Cordo 2012-07-02 14:50:31
What have a football team?
You got me there.
Dubrowg 2012-07-02 14:51:07
First of all, the SAT (as the College Board and ETS acknowledge) does not
measure aptitude but acheivement, the A was changed a while ago). Second
of all, the science behind the tests is similar. Third of all, you can
make correlations if you have enough scores of each test from the same
person. Fourth of all, IQ tests given to a kid with little cognitive
stimulation at an early age won’t really measure natural intelligence, but
will reflect his formative experiences.
Leon neon 2012-07-02 14:51:33
Isn’t that true at any school? I had friends that severely f’d up and got
through at a state school. I still disagree at the notion that it is any
easier or harder to fail out of Yale than anywhere else.
Brad 2012-07-05 17:45:44
It’s definitely harder to fail out of Yale than most schools because you
have to get in first.