Mzmeryze 2012-05-07 10:10:10
What is it?
1. One on one record.
2. Against the NFC.
Just in case Green Bay and New Orleans are tied for the last wild card
spot. Anyone know?
Jon c 2012-05-07 10:10:19
Third is best record in common games.
Green Bay definitely has the advantage… the only opponents in common are
Seattle, Philly, and Tampa Bay. Green Bay has a 2-1 record in those games,
whereas the Saints are 1-3.
Jon c 2012-05-07 10:10:21
Actually that’s the *second* tiebreak. Record vs NFC is *after* that.
Jon c 2012-05-07 10:10:24
I need to read the whole page before I post.
The second, in this case (Wild Card teams from different division), is NFC
record. Then is “common games,” but there is a minimum of 4 games in
common. Since NO and GB don’t have 4 games in common, next is Strength of
Victory. I’m not entirely sure what that means, but I assume it means
average margin of victory for games won, or PPG minus PAG. Either way Green
Bay is still doing better – they have outscored their opponents overall
whereas NO hasn’t (25.5 – 21.2 for GB vs 20.2 – 22.5 for NO) *and* they have
outscored their opponents in victory by a larger margin than NO (13.6 points
for GB and 11 points for NO).
Wiseman41 2012-05-07 10:10:31
Of course, if Carolina stages a Saints-like collapse, all of this is
irrelevant. Saints-NFC South Champions.
Ah, to dream. How come nobody else ever collapses in December like we do?
Saints Fan, Abita Man
Jon c 2012-05-18 01:26:46
New Orleans has to be known for something, right? Late season collapses are
better than simply sucking so bad you’re irrelevant.
Heydan 2012-05-18 01:27:11
NOT being the Saints
Wolfie 2012-05-18 01:28:57
The Saints are 5-5 in the conference. In order to tie here, the
Saints need to beat both Dallas and NYG. The Packers finished
at 7-5 in the conference (all their remaining games are vs AFC teams.)
The Packers and Saints have four common opponents: Tampa Bay
(1-0 GB, 1-1 NO), Seattle (1-0 GB, 0-1 NO), Chicago (2-0 GB,
1-0 NO), and Eagles (0-1 GB, 0-1 NO), for a total record of
4-1 GB to 2-3 NO. This is decided and the Packers win the
The only way the Saints can advance ahead of the Packers is
if the Saints finish with a better record.
Strength of Victory is the cumulative winning percentage of the
teams which a team defeated. In short, it rewards a team for
beating good opponents more than a team which beat worse
opponents. For example, the Giants (4-9) are “better” than the
Lions (also 4-9) because the average opponent the Giants
have beaten is 7-6, while the average opponent the Lions have
beaten is 4.5-8.5. (For 6-7 teams, it’s Bills/Bucs (tied at 0.500),
49ers (0.423), and Saints (0.346.))
To calculate it, add up all the wins of teams which a team defeated
(ties count as 1/2) and divide by the total games. The Saints are
currently at 29th in the league (27-51) and the Packers tied for 8th
S321saint 2012-05-21 18:48:24
Basically, the Saints HAVE to win out and get lots of help.